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ESAD December 6th 12 01:45 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
On 12/6/12 8:43 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
...


We see the world in a very similar way. I've built my company in the
same fashion but the dollar value of our product isn't as high, as
we're in corporate instead of defense.

----------------------------------------

Be careful of what you claim to have built. Not politically correct
now-a-days.

:-)


LMAO!

You gave us a great read. I hope your mom was alive to witness that. She'd have been mighty proud of
her little boy!



Yours must be rolling around in her grave so fast, she's generating
electricity. Imagine having a racist as a son. Awful.


iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 02:09 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:19:35 PM UTC-5, jps wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:13:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:







"Eisboch" wrote in message


m...




That's my story and I am sticking to it.




jps:




BTW ... in case you are wondering ... yes, I paid somewhere around


37% in capital gains taxes.


Should have waited a few more years before selling. :-)




You struck while the iron was hot. Smart move.


Smart move to default on his debts and not pay his taxes? Is that a liberal's take on his situation?


Why must you lump everyone that doesn't 100% agree with your far right
ideals into one small, narrow minded category?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 02:09 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole
 
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He was hired at that fee to restructure the company. So he earns the
money. Hostess main problem was a very expensive distribution network.
The drivers could not load a truck among other items of overhead.

He's part of the vulture capital firm that took over. Not enough that
these guys will reap large rewards for parting out a viable business
(save for their stupid decisions), they need to take exorbitant fees
too.


Hey, it's so easy to start and run a business, why don't you do it.
Oh, and get the union involved from the start, that way you will know
all the union rules. And don't question a rule just cause it looks
unproductive, it adds union jobs.
Mikek


http://tinyurl.com/brkkbgk


We bought Hostess mini muffins and Wonder bread each week. We were doing
our part to keep them in business.


Figures.

[email protected] December 6th 12 02:18 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
On Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:09:09 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



Smart move to default on his debts and not pay his taxes? Is that a liberal's take on his situation?




Why must you lump everyone that doesn't 100% agree with your far right
ideals into one small, narrow minded category?


You saying jps isn't a liberal?

Eisboch[_8_] December 6th 12 02:42 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 


"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
.. .


We see the world in a very similar way. I've built my company in the
same fashion but the dollar value of our product isn't as high, as
we're in corporate instead of defense.

----------------------------------------

Be careful of what you claim to have built. Not politically
correct
now-a-days.

:-)


LMAO!

You gave us a great read. I hope your mom was alive to witness that.
She'd have been mighty proud of
her little boy!

----------------------------------------

She's still around, but not in the best of shape. She's 85 and has a
rare form of progressive MS that limits her ability to get around.
My dad died a year before I sold the company. During his last years
he was carting my mother around all over the country to specialists
and medical facilities trying to diagnose what her (then undetermined)
medical problems were. It was after he died that the rare MS was
positively diagnosed.

I am not particularly religious, but things seem to happen for a
reason sometimes. She was going downhill emotionally and physically
after his death. Their house still had a mortgage on it and it was
not ideally set up for a wheelchair bound person. The sale of the
company suddenly put me in a financial position to pay off her
mortgage and then a year later we bought her a house nearer to us that
we extensively modified to accommodate her condition and situation.
She lived there for the next eight years until her physical condition
made an assisted living/nursing home necessary.

As I mentioned to JPS, there are a couple of more chapters to "the
story" that are as bizarre (or more so) as the one I disclosed here.
Someday maybe I'll write a book. Having a little money doesn't
guarantee happiness, but what you *do* with it certainly has it's
rewards that are not necessarily financial in nature.


iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 03:41 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
In article ,
says...

On Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:09:09 AM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...


Smart move to default on his debts and not pay his taxes? Is that a liberal's take on his situation?




Why must you lump everyone that doesn't 100% agree with your far right
ideals into one small, narrow minded category?


You saying jps isn't a liberal?


No. Do you think all conservatives are like the Westboro church people?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 03:44 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
In article ,
says...

"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
.. .


We see the world in a very similar way. I've built my company in the
same fashion but the dollar value of our product isn't as high, as
we're in corporate instead of defense.

----------------------------------------

Be careful of what you claim to have built. Not politically
correct
now-a-days.

:-)


LMAO!

You gave us a great read. I hope your mom was alive to witness that.
She'd have been mighty proud of
her little boy!

----------------------------------------

She's still around, but not in the best of shape. She's 85 and has a
rare form of progressive MS that limits her ability to get around.
My dad died a year before I sold the company. During his last years
he was carting my mother around all over the country to specialists
and medical facilities trying to diagnose what her (then undetermined)
medical problems were. It was after he died that the rare MS was
positively diagnosed.

I am not particularly religious, but things seem to happen for a
reason sometimes. She was going downhill emotionally and physically
after his death. Their house still had a mortgage on it and it was
not ideally set up for a wheelchair bound person. The sale of the
company suddenly put me in a financial position to pay off her
mortgage and then a year later we bought her a house nearer to us that
we extensively modified to accommodate her condition and situation.
She lived there for the next eight years until her physical condition
made an assisted living/nursing home necessary.

As I mentioned to JPS, there are a couple of more chapters to "the
story" that are as bizarre (or more so) as the one I disclosed here.
Someday maybe I'll write a book. Having a little money doesn't
guarantee happiness, but what you *do* with it certainly has it's
rewards that are not necessarily financial in nature.


I had an aunt who died after a lot of hospital/recovery/hospital/take
this out, etc. My uncle went downhill quite fast after her death. It was
sad to watch. You should be commended for helping make your mom as
comfortable as possible.

thumper December 6th 12 04:39 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
On 12/6/2012 6:15 AM, wrote:

Close enough. "If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."


Deliberate lack of context to alter the meaning. That's dishonest.


GuzzisRule December 6th 12 04:46 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:42:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"GuzzisRule" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
. ..


We see the world in a very similar way. I've built my company in the
same fashion but the dollar value of our product isn't as high, as
we're in corporate instead of defense.

----------------------------------------

Be careful of what you claim to have built. Not politically
correct
now-a-days.

:-)


LMAO!

You gave us a great read. I hope your mom was alive to witness that.
She'd have been mighty proud of
her little boy!

----------------------------------------

She's still around, but not in the best of shape. She's 85 and has a
rare form of progressive MS that limits her ability to get around.
My dad died a year before I sold the company. During his last years
he was carting my mother around all over the country to specialists
and medical facilities trying to diagnose what her (then undetermined)
medical problems were. It was after he died that the rare MS was
positively diagnosed.

I am not particularly religious, but things seem to happen for a
reason sometimes. She was going downhill emotionally and physically
after his death. Their house still had a mortgage on it and it was
not ideally set up for a wheelchair bound person. The sale of the
company suddenly put me in a financial position to pay off her
mortgage and then a year later we bought her a house nearer to us that
we extensively modified to accommodate her condition and situation.
She lived there for the next eight years until her physical condition
made an assisted living/nursing home necessary.

As I mentioned to JPS, there are a couple of more chapters to "the
story" that are as bizarre (or more so) as the one I disclosed here.
Someday maybe I'll write a book. Having a little money doesn't
guarantee happiness, but what you *do* with it certainly has it's
rewards that are not necessarily financial in nature.


My mom died in '97. She was living in Seattle, was diagnosed with leukemia, and I talked her into
moving in with us. She didn't like the idea, but eventually realized it was for her own good. The
doctors told me she'd probably live another 5-7 years. She moved here in August and died in October
of the same year. Damn shame.

Sorry to hear about your mom's health. Sounds like you've done all you can.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 6th 12 04:49 PM

Greedy Restructuring Asshole (long)
 
In article , lid says...

On 12/6/2012 6:15 AM,
wrote:

Close enough. "If you?ve got a business?you didn?t build that. Somebody else made that happen."


Deliberate lack of context to alter the meaning. That's dishonest.


That's how they roll!


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