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iBoaterer[_2_] September 23rd 12 12:45 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G



That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat?


===

We do. It works very well.

See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago.


But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible!

iBoaterer[_2_] September 23rd 12 12:46 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,

says...



On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G







Break it down in your own words.



4G is faster than 3G.


You almost got it right.

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas. Like in Scot's case.

That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked.

You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV.


If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI.


No, no you haven't been listening to the experts here!!!

iBoaterer[_2_] September 23rd 12 12:47 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
In article , says...

On 9/22/2012 11:27 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas


That was the paradox of our vacation in far southwest North Carolina.
If you were down in what passes for civilization (where they have
electricity) cell service was spotty and broadband was unobtanium but
if you were hiking in the mountains, miles from the nearest living
soul, you had 4G.


Sounds like either you were in line of sight of a 4G tower, or maybe
there was a "market" somewhere nearby that got a lone tower...


You don't have to be in line of sight, dumb ass.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! September 23rd 12 01:51 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
On Sep 23, 7:45*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...











On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G


That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat?


===


We do. * It works very well.


See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago.


But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible!


Why don't you just leave me out of your delusions. I never said any of
that, stop being such a ****ing asshole for a while. Your buddy harry
is gone and don with him... now you are doing your best to take over
for both of them, how ****ing pathetic.

Meyer[_2_] September 23rd 12 02:25 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
On 9/23/2012 7:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,

says...



On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G







Break it down in your own words.



4G is faster than 3G.

You almost got it right.

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas. Like in Scot's case.

That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked.

You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV.


If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI.


No, no you haven't been listening to the experts here!!!

Everyone's experience with 2g 3g and 4g is different depending on many
factors.

Meyer[_2_] September 23rd 12 02:28 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
On 9/23/2012 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Sep 23, 7:45 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...











On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G


That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat?


===


We do. It works very well.


See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago.


But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible!


Why don't you just leave me out of your delusions. I never said any of
that, stop being such a ****ing asshole for a while. Your buddy harry
is gone and don with him... now you are doing your best to take over
for both of them, how ****ing pathetic.

Iloogy does an excellent Harry impression, don't you think?

JustWait[_2_] September 23rd 12 03:04 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
On 9/23/2012 9:25 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 9/23/2012 7:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,

says...



On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G







Break it down in your own words.



4G is faster than 3G.

You almost got it right.

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in
good signal areas. Like in Scot's case.

That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the
population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked.

You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV.

If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI.


No, no you haven't been listening to the experts here!!!

Everyone's experience with 2g 3g and 4g is different depending on many
factors.


Everyone here knows that... You are just being "plummed"...

iBoaterer[_2_] September 23rd 12 03:33 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
In article 69803576-6d30-4d2d-a68c-ebdf0e6dd855
@k13g2000pbq.googlegroups.com, says...

On Sep 23, 7:45*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...











On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat?


===


We do. * It works very well.


See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago.


But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible!


Why don't you just leave me out of your delusions. I never said any of
that, stop being such a ****ing asshole for a while. Your buddy harry
is gone and don with him... now you are doing your best to take over
for both of them, how ****ing pathetic.


Going lower than slammer again, I see!

iBoaterer[_2_] September 23rd 12 03:34 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:47:52 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 9/22/2012 11:27 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas

That was the paradox of our vacation in far southwest North Carolina.
If you were down in what passes for civilization (where they have
electricity) cell service was spotty and broadband was unobtanium but
if you were hiking in the mountains, miles from the nearest living
soul, you had 4G.


Sounds like either you were in line of sight of a 4G tower, or maybe
there was a "market" somewhere nearby that got a lone tower...


You don't have to be in line of sight, dumb ass.


Multipath effects and Rayleigh fading notwithstanding (and they
wouldn't be much help in a rural mountainous area), yes you do.


It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

[email protected] September 23rd 12 03:59 PM

For the 4G dummies!!
 
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.


Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.

"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."

"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.

Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped.. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.


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