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For the 4G dummies!!
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For the 4G dummies!!
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G === It has been quite a while since you've posted anything about boats or boating. Why not give it a try? There really is more to life than trying to start (or finish) a food fight. |
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On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G Break it down in your own words. |
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On Sep 22, 11:35*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G Break it down in your own words. 4G is faster than 3G. But who cares? |
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For the 4G dummies!!
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G Break it down in your own words. 4G is faster than 3G. You almost got it right. 4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds. But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas. Like in Scot's case. That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked. You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV. |
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For the 4G dummies!!
On 9/22/2012 11:09 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:22:24 -0400, wrote: If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI. === When 4G is working well, it is very, very fast. The speed of WiFi varies a great deal however depending on a lot of different things. With the right equipment, a good connection and a good back feed to the internet, WiFi can be every bit as fast as 4G. What is it with these guys? They just seem to spout whatever their local phone/cable company tells them. |
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In article ,
says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat? === We do. It works very well. See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago. But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible! |
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says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G Break it down in your own words. 4G is faster than 3G. You almost got it right. 4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds. But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas. Like in Scot's case. That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked. You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV. If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI. No, no you haven't been listening to the experts here!!! |
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In article , says...
On 9/22/2012 11:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: 4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds. But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas That was the paradox of our vacation in far southwest North Carolina. If you were down in what passes for civilization (where they have electricity) cell service was spotty and broadband was unobtanium but if you were hiking in the mountains, miles from the nearest living soul, you had 4G. Sounds like either you were in line of sight of a 4G tower, or maybe there was a "market" somewhere nearby that got a lone tower... You don't have to be in line of sight, dumb ass. |
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On Sep 23, 7:45*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat? === We do. * It works very well. See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago. But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible! Why don't you just leave me out of your delusions. I never said any of that, stop being such a ****ing asshole for a while. Your buddy harry is gone and don with him... now you are doing your best to take over for both of them, how ****ing pathetic. |
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On 9/23/2012 7:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G Break it down in your own words. 4G is faster than 3G. You almost got it right. 4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds. But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas. Like in Scot's case. That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked. You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV. If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI. No, no you haven't been listening to the experts here!!! Everyone's experience with 2g 3g and 4g is different depending on many factors. |
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On 9/23/2012 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Sep 23, 7:45 am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat? === We do. It works very well. See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago. But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible! Why don't you just leave me out of your delusions. I never said any of that, stop being such a ****ing asshole for a while. Your buddy harry is gone and don with him... now you are doing your best to take over for both of them, how ****ing pathetic. Iloogy does an excellent Harry impression, don't you think? |
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On 9/23/2012 9:25 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 9/23/2012 7:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/22/2012 10:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G Break it down in your own words. 4G is faster than 3G. You almost got it right. 4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds. But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas. Like in Scot's case. That's all he, and I, have been saying. For a huge segment of the population, 4G isn't an option. Reference the coverage map I linked. You are far too dense to understand. A dog watching TV. If you ARE in 4G, though, it is BLAZING. Much faster than WIFI. No, no you haven't been listening to the experts here!!! Everyone's experience with 2g 3g and 4g is different depending on many factors. Everyone here knows that... You are just being "plummed"... |
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In article 69803576-6d30-4d2d-a68c-ebdf0e6dd855
@k13g2000pbq.googlegroups.com, says... On Sep 23, 7:45*am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:18:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G That's really cool! Have you got 4G on your boat? === We do. * It works very well. See my post on rec.boats.cruising from a few days ago. But how? Scotty and pontoon are saying that's not possible! Why don't you just leave me out of your delusions. I never said any of that, stop being such a ****ing asshole for a while. Your buddy harry is gone and don with him... now you are doing your best to take over for both of them, how ****ing pathetic. Going lower than slammer again, I see! |
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says... On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:47:52 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 11:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: 4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds. But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas That was the paradox of our vacation in far southwest North Carolina. If you were down in what passes for civilization (where they have electricity) cell service was spotty and broadband was unobtanium but if you were hiking in the mountains, miles from the nearest living soul, you had 4G. Sounds like either you were in line of sight of a 4G tower, or maybe there was a "market" somewhere nearby that got a lone tower... You don't have to be in line of sight, dumb ass. Multipath effects and Rayleigh fading notwithstanding (and they wouldn't be much help in a rural mountainous area), yes you do. It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight. |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight. Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal. "As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications." "despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G. Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped.. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind. |
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For the 4G dummies!!
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:19:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight. Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal. "As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications.." "despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G. Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind. Bull****. Here, moron: "The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate, which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath." So their experiments and simulation show that the measures they took ("multi-hop transmission technology") were effective in avoiding "degraded radio link by multipath". Thanks for proving my point! |
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On 9/23/2012 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:19:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight. Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal. "As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications." "despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G. Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind. Bull****. Here, moron: "The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate, which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath." In the mountains, you need LOS. Walking 50 feet can be the difference between no bars and a full house. He is a narrow flatlander... He doesn't understand that the whole country is not like his area.. |
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In article ,
says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:19:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight. Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal. "As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications." "despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G. Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind. Bull****. Here, moron: "The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate, which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath." So their experiments and simulation show that the measures they took ("multi-hop transmission technology") were effective in avoiding "degraded radio link by multipath". Thanks for proving my point! If that's what you think you are a fool. |
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In article , says...
On 9/23/2012 11:36 AM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:19:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight. Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal. "As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications." "despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G. Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind. Bull****. Here, moron: "The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate, which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath." In the mountains, you need LOS. Walking 50 feet can be the difference between no bars and a full house. He is a narrow flatlander... He doesn't understand that the whole country is not like his area.. What a moron. |
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