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says... On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. Cite? |
figgered out where harry is
On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? |
figgered out where harry is
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On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. |
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On 9/23/2012 7:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. What technical discipline are you schooled in? |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. |
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says... On 9/23/2012 7:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. What technical discipline are you schooled in? SHOW ME, period. You can't. |
figgered out where harry is
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:35:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. Nope. Same antenna. Prove me wrong. From your own link: "Advanced antenna systems Main articles: MIMO and MU-MIMO The performance of radio communications depends on an antenna system, termed smart or intelligent antenna. Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications. In the early 1990s, to cater for the growing data rate needs of data communication, many transmission schemes were proposed. One technology, spatial multiplexing, gained importance for its bandwidth conservation and power efficiency. Spatial multiplexing involves deploying multiple antennas at the transmitter and at the receiver. Independent streams can then be transmitted simultaneously from all the antennas. This technology, called MIMO (as a branch of intelligent antenna), multiplies the base data rate by (the smaller of) the number of transmit antennas or the number of receive antennas. Apart from this, the reliability in transmitting high speed data in the fading channel can be improved by using more antennas at the transmitter or at the receiver. This is called transmit or receive diversity. Both transmit/receive diversity and transmit spatial multiplexing are categorized into the space-time coding techniques, which does not necessarily require the channel knowledge at the transmitter. The other category is closed-loop multiple antenna technologies, which require channel knowledge at the transmitter." I know this stuff is over your head, but they basically designed new, advanced antenna technology to enable the transmission of 4G signals. "Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications." Yeah, they use the same antennas that have been in place for years. ~snerk~ |
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