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Meyer[_2_] September 15th 12 08:18 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On 9/15/2012 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you
anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it
with smart grids.


Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation.

Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it.

So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down.

Look it up.



Rolling blackouts by any other name are still rolling blackouts.

BAR[_2_] September 15th 12 10:58 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you
anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it
with smart grids.


Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation.

Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it.

So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down.

Look it up.


BULL****!!!!!

http://energy.gov/oe/technology-development/smart-grid

http://mcensustainableenergy.pbworks.../Smart%20Grid%
3A%20Guest%20Lecture

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/.../Technologies/


The electric company keeps wanting to control my A/C, Fridge and washer
and dryer. I keep telling them no because I want to my house cold, my
beer cold and my clothes clean.



BAR[_2_] September 15th 12 11:00 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.

Wow. Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?


My local coal power plant has an 853MW capacity. Not bad for burning
coal, if they would let burn coal.



North Star September 15th 12 11:13 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On Sep 15, 7:01*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...



In article ,
says...


On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.

http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-ne.... No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-pla... Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there... Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.


Wow. *Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?


My local coal power plant has an 853MW capacity. Not bad for burning
coal, if they would let burn coal.


So...ou don't care about the emissions that would rain down over the
poor suckers downwind of you?

BAR[_2_] September 15th 12 11:25 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article 6e4e17e8-cffe-4f41-a35c-
,
says...

On Sep 15, 7:01*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...



In article ,
says...


On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-ne... No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-pla... Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there... Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.


Wow. *Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?


My local coal power plant has an 853MW capacity. Not bad for burning
coal, if they would let burn coal.


So...ou don't care about the emissions that would rain down over the
poor suckers downwind of you?


I am downwind and when the plant was operational it wasn't a problem.



iBoaterer[_2_] September 16th 12 03:32 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:05:15 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids. Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation. Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off
demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it. So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down. Look it up.

BULL****!!!!!
http://energy.gov/oe/technology-development/smart-grid

"A key feature of the smart grid is automation technology that lets the utility adjust and control each individual device or millions of devices from a central location."


Do you really think that the smart grid will control every single device
in your house? REALLY???

iBoaterer[_2_] September 16th 12 03:36 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will

likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.

Wow. Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?


My local coal power plant has an 853MW capacity. Not bad for burning
coal, if they would let burn coal.


So, they won't let them burn coal in it? And you still have electricity?
DING DING!!!! According to the faction here that just pukes FOX
bull****, you should have blackouts at the very least!

iBoaterer[_2_] September 16th 12 03:37 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article 6e4e17e8-cffe-4f41-a35c-
,
says...

On Sep 15, 7:01*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...



In article ,
says...


On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-ne... No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-pla... Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there... Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.


Wow. *Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?


My local coal power plant has an 853MW capacity. Not bad for burning
coal, if they would let burn coal.


So...ou don't care about the emissions that would rain down over the
poor suckers downwind of you?


No, because FOX says it doesn't happen.

iBoaterer[_2_] September 16th 12 03:38 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article m,
says...

On 9/15/2012 12:02 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will

likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.

Wow. Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?

Give it up loogie. You're a moron and everyone knows.


Really, well above, BAR just stated that he is near a coal fired plant
that they won't let burn coal, and I'll bet he still has electricity!


iBoaterer[_2_] September 16th 12 03:38 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article om,
says...

On 9/15/2012 11:56 AM,
wrote:
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you
anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it
with smart grids.


Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation.

Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it.

So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down.

Look it up.



Rolling blackouts by any other name are still rolling blackouts.


I guess, if you are willing to believe everything FOX tells you....


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