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iBoaterer[_2_] September 15th 12 03:38 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,



Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the
reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal
plants.


Good lord, man... you're dense.

http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants

No new plants.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc

Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite")

Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already.

Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10.

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california

Think man, think!

Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone!


I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing coal
fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the
antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want
to even think about fixing it with smart grids.

[email protected] September 15th 12 03:43 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense. http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars.. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.


Wow. Even my dog can add 1 + 1.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! September 15th 12 04:12 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On Sep 15, 10:43*am, wrote:
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense. http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-ne.... No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-pla... Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there... Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.


Wow. *Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


As soon as he starts the loony "anti-technology wingnuts...etc" he
loses and shouldn't be taken seriously. Nobody is anti-technology,
it's just a talking point, a ridiculous one, like "war on women" or
"hope and change"... LOL!!!

BAR[_2_] September 15th 12 04:45 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,



Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the
reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal
plants.


Good lord, man... you're dense.

http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants

No new plants.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc

Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite")

Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already.

Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10.

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california

Think man, think!

Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone!


You are expecting "it" to utilize "its" brain beyond 1%.


[email protected] September 15th 12 04:56 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you
anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it
with smart grids.


Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation.

Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it.

So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down.

Look it up.




[email protected] September 15th 12 05:02 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:59:32 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

..the fact that if we had in place smart grid technology you
could close ALL of the coal fired plants in CA and still have electricity.


Cite?

iBoaterer[_2_] September 15th 12 05:02 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.

Wow. Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?

iBoaterer[_2_] September 15th 12 05:04 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you
anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it
with smart grids.


Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation.

Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it.

So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down.

Look it up.


BULL****!!!!!

http://energy.gov/oe/technology-development/smart-grid

http://mcensustainableenergy.pbworks.../Smart%20Grid%
3A%20Guest%20Lecture

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/.../Technologies/



[email protected] September 15th 12 05:24 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:05:15 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids. Smart grid controls distribution. We have plenty of distribution, we lack generation. Smart grid technology works primarily by turning off demand, preventing you from washing clothes or heating water during peak power demands. Smart grid technology doesn't fix the lack of generation, it prevents consumers from overwhelming it. So, with smart grid, when you plug your electric car in it either won't charge, or your washer/dryer will shut down. Look it up.


BULL****!!!!!
http://energy.gov/oe/technology-development/smart-grid

"A key feature of the smart grid is automation technology that lets the utility adjust and control each individual device or millions of devices from a central location."


Meyer[_2_] September 15th 12 08:14 PM

But the right wing says that these won't work!!!
 
On 9/15/2012 12:02 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:38:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:17:31 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , Again, please show me where in the article that it states that the reason for rolling blackouts is specifically tied to shutting down coal plants. Good lord, man... you're dense.
http://www.marke****ch.com/story/california-moves-quickly-to-block-new-coal-fired-power-plants No new plants. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/03/07/207644/news-last-coal-plant-in-pacific-nw-to-shut-down-by-2025-climate-change-will-wreak-havoc-on-britains-coastline-by-2050/?mobile=nc Phasing out all remaining coal plants. 40% of LA's power comes from coal. (see above article for "cite") Original article states the loss of "one" plant will likely
cause rolling blackouts. Grid and capacity stretched thin already. Now introduce new loads on the grid from electric cars... say just 10% of their car registrations. 3.2 million electric cars. 1 out of 10. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-registered-vehicles-are-there-in-the-state-of-california Think man, think! Gotta go cut the grass, then tailgate at the game. Have fun everyone! I'm sorry, please show me where any of those points to reducing
coal fired plants as the culprit for rolling blackouts... It's because of the antiquated grid, and of course you anti-technology righties don't want to even think about fixing it with smart grids.

Wow. Even my dog can add 1 + 1.


Can your dog show me how decommishoning low output coal fired plants
causes rolling blackouts? Do you realize that if we went to a smart grid
system we wouldn't need nearly the power plants we have now?

Give it up loogie. You're a moron and everyone knows.


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