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On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:10:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 15:07:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

BTW this may be a first for wrecked boats

A political thread that was hijacked with boating content.

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heh.

It actually started out as a non-political analysis of the federal
budget. Of course in this group everything eventually turns
political unless it is highly technical.

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On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 15:07:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:29:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I am using tool boxes now. We were trying to go another way but the
32" width seems to be a problem in a dock box and we want a height
suitable as a seat with a cushion.
We have a trick box across the back too but next time around I am
thinking about a leaning post with storage under it and no box across
the back. Since all of the aluminum will be custom made I want the
boxes first.

I'm thinking to get just exactly what you want, you'll have to build it.

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Yes, and it wouldn't be all that difficult for anyone who is halfway
handy with wood working tools, epoxy and fiberglass. I'd start by
laminating a few sheets of 1/4 inch exterior ply with one layer of
relatively light weight glass on each side. It's easy to get the
panels dead nutz flat that way and much easier to laminate than after
it has been built into a box.

Evaluate the panels for stiffness; laminate extra layers of glass on
each side as needed for strength/rigidity but remember that the sides
and bottom do not require extreme stiffness.

Use the pre-laminated panels, cut out the pieces you need for the box,
seal the edges of all pieces with epoxy, and then tack the whole thing
together using clamps or light weight fasteners. Next step is to
thicken some epoxy and filet all of the inside corners with something
like a 1/2 inch radius (being careful to keep everything in square
alignment). Cover the filets with one or two layers of 3 inch
fiberglass tape/epoxy and let the whole thing cure.

You should now have a very strong and rigid box assembly that can be
filled/sanded/finished/painted the way you want. Make a cover using
the same technique as the box, sizing it to overlap the edges by some
small amount. The top will need to be stiffer than the sides and
bottom if you are going to use it for seating.



I made my console with glass over plywood but time is money and I
really was hoping to just buy something. I also think I like the resin
boxes better than glass.


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:30:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

You're not qualified by education or experience to make judgments about
others.

Please tell what his qualifications are....

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Harry's financial past is a matter of public record if you know where
to look, and it's not very enviable.

Wow, what a deadbeat.

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On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

This is what I am replacing

I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the
door.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg

Hows about rotating the box counter clockwise 90 degrees? Is that doable?

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

This is what I am replacing

I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the
door.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg

The pooch seems to like it just the way it is!!!!

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On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:57:42 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

This is what I am replacing

I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the
door.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg

Hows about rotating the box counter clockwise 90 degrees? Is that doable?

It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way.

I have a 24X36 black box you can stand on. Lockable 2 ways. Costs less
than $100. Think of it as waterproof storage space AND sitting/standing
space. Does recommitting 6 square feet seem so bad now?

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says...

On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 14:02:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

This is what I am replacing

I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the
door.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg

The pooch seems to like it just the way it is!!!!

Those 23 year old boxes are getting pretty tired. I was looking for an
upgrade. Those were sold as tool boxes.
It does seem to be about the perfect solution tho. My life jackets and
other supplies stay dry and mildew free in there, not a mean trick in
Florida.

If they are that tight, I think I'd use them! If it ain't broke, don't
fix it!

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On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

This is what I am replacing

I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the
door.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg


Well, the dog could lose a few pounds but he seems to fit in the space
just fine:)

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On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:57:42 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote:


I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and
sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you
are looking for?

This is what I am replacing

I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the
door.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg

Hows about rotating the box counter clockwise 90 degrees? Is that doable?

It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way.


Sorry I missed the beginning of the conversation but I get it now. I
guess aluminum might be best. Of course I would whip it out in a day out
of Occoume Plywood, a quart of Epoxy, some wood flower and some two inch
tape. I noticed someone suggested two layers of three inch tape, but you
are not building a yacht, just a box:)

You could also use a core material a lot lighter than plywood too... You
could make it all composite with a honeycomb fill and tight weave
fiberglass cloth...

We Will All Go Down With the Ship- Metaphorically Speaking
 

On 9/2/2012 8:57 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:06:11 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote:

It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way.


Sorry I missed the beginning of the conversation but I get it now. I
guess aluminum might be best. Of course I would whip it out in a day out
of Occoume Plywood, a quart of Epoxy, some wood flower and some two inch
tape. I noticed someone suggested two layers of three inch tape, but you
are not building a yacht, just a box:)

You could also use a core material a lot lighter than plywood too... You
could make it all composite with a honeycomb fill and tight weave
fiberglass cloth...

I build my console, I know how to do it but it is not work I like to
do.

Right now I am looking at EvaKool 85 liter coolers (Maybe the IceKool)

If I could find some of those "seconds" they have on their Australian
site I would jump in a heartbeat. Retail I am looking at close to a
grand. I am also not sure they are good at keeping water out but I
think they are gasketed.


A grand? Wow... Really never saw that coming. Damn son, build the
stinkin' thing. Buy a nice plastic welder and have at it, it would be
fun and still within budget... When you are done, you can send the
welder to me:)