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On 8/27/12 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote: Which people? the ones whose kids wear $200 tennis shoes, and $59.50 baseball caps? who rent a small place but drive a leased luxury car? My daughter bought her condo when she was 25 years old. Drove a Ford. Did do some travel, but lived economically. Same condo comlex has a couple who rent the condo for $4k a month, and drive leased luxury sedans. Who is going to have a hard retirement? I'd bet on the couple who rent the condo having a happier retirement than your daughter. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. -------------------------- Why? |
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On 8/30/12 6:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 8/27/12 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote: Which people? the ones whose kids wear $200 tennis shoes, and $59.50 baseball caps? who rent a small place but drive a leased luxury car? My daughter bought her condo when she was 25 years old. Drove a Ford. Did do some travel, but lived economically. Same condo comlex has a couple who rent the condo for $4k a month, and drive leased luxury sedans. Who is going to have a hard retirement? I'd bet on the couple who rent the condo having a happier retirement than your daughter. Several reasons, but one is this: you can't predict what the future will deal you, so it is important to have some fun while you can. Some 30 years ago, my doctor, a great doctor in his mid 40's, was shot by a burglar he caught at his house. The doc died a short time later. He didn't have any retirement. Another friend of mine, also a physician, died in his early 40's two weeks after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I am not saying you shouldn't save for your retirement. You should. But you should also go through life having fun, not just pinching pennies. -- What do the Republican Party of the United States and the Muslim Brotherhood of the Arab World have in common? They're both faith-based parties, they both deny science, and they both wage war on women. |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:09:16 -0400, wrote:
I am saving up my SS checks to buy a new boat ;-) === Careful now, that is dangerously close to being an on topic post. :-) |
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On Aug 30, 9:27*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:09:16 -0400, wrote: I am saving up my SS checks to buy a new boat *;-) === Careful now, that is dangerously close to being an on topic post. :-) LOL! |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:31:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote: I am not saying you shouldn't save for your retirement. You should. But you should also go through life having fun, not just pinching pennies. === It's interesting that you feel qualified to give financial advice to others. |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Aug 30, 9:27*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:09:16 -0400, wrote: I am saving up my SS checks to buy a new boat *;-) === Careful now, that is dangerously close to being an on topic post. :-) LOL! === Looks like you're going to get that rain I sent you. http://www.intellicast.com/National/...region=default |
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says... On 8/30/12 7:31 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 8/27/12 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote: Which people? the ones whose kids wear $200 tennis shoes, and $59.50 baseball caps? who rent a small place but drive a leased luxury car? My daughter bought her condo when she was 25 years old. Drove a Ford. Did do some travel, but lived economically. Same condo comlex has a couple who rent the condo for $4k a month, and drive leased luxury sedans. Who is going to have a hard retirement? I'd bet on the couple who rent the condo having a happier retirement than your daughter. Happiness and satisfaction are states of mind that don't co-exist with envy and jealousy. I don't believe that Harry has figured that out. You're not qualified by education or experience to make judgments about others. Please tell what his qualifications are.... |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:30:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
You're not qualified by education or experience to make judgments about others. Please tell what his qualifications are.... === Harry's financial past is a matter of public record if you know where to look, and it's not very enviable. |
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On 8/31/2012 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:10:54 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:25:17 -0400, wrote: I can't find a resin dock box in the sizes I want but I have seen some real nice coolers that might work. === West Marine has a pretty good selection of dock boxes. Pricey, but they go on sale every once in a while. I am somewhat constrained on size and I have not had much luck finding a dock box that will work for me. It turns out there are only a few companies making these and they get relabeled by retailers. Don't know if this would work. Wifee has two at the barn, the girls love them. http://www.homedepot.com/buy/stanley-37-in-mobile-job-box-037025h.html#.UED4NpZdx_Q Just under 60 bucks, lock, extremely good material (you can stand on it, or I can anyway), wheels are not necessary in our use, but for you... could do the trick. |
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On 8/31/2012 1:47 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/31/2012 12:50 PM, wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:10:54 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:25:17 -0400, wrote: I can't find a resin dock box in the sizes I want but I have seen some real nice coolers that might work. === West Marine has a pretty good selection of dock boxes. Pricey, but they go on sale every once in a while. I am somewhat constrained on size and I have not had much luck finding a dock box that will work for me. It turns out there are only a few companies making these and they get relabeled by retailers. Don't know if this would work. Wifee has two at the barn, the girls love them. http://www.homedepot.com/buy/stanley-37-in-mobile-job-box-037025h.html#.UED4NpZdx_Q Just under 60 bucks, lock, extremely good material (you can stand on it, or I can anyway), wheels are not necessary in our use, but for you... could do the trick. Ooops, forgot, it has a pretty good collapsible handle opposite the wheels. All together, a pretty solid tool, if it's the tool you need in my opinion. |
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On 9/1/2012 12:44 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:49:14 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 8/31/2012 1:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 8/31/2012 12:50 PM, wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:10:54 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:25:17 -0400, wrote: I can't find a resin dock box in the sizes I want but I have seen some real nice coolers that might work. === West Marine has a pretty good selection of dock boxes. Pricey, but they go on sale every once in a while. I am somewhat constrained on size and I have not had much luck finding a dock box that will work for me. It turns out there are only a few companies making these and they get relabeled by retailers. Don't know if this would work. Wifee has two at the barn, the girls love them. http://www.homedepot.com/buy/stanley-37-in-mobile-job-box-037025h.html#.UED4NpZdx_Q Just under 60 bucks, lock, extremely good material (you can stand on it, or I can anyway), wheels are not necessary in our use, but for you... could do the trick. Ooops, forgot, it has a pretty good collapsible handle opposite the wheels. All together, a pretty solid tool, if it's the tool you need in my opinion. I am using tool boxes now. We were trying to go another way but the 32" width seems to be a problem in a dock box and we want a height suitable as a seat with a cushion. We have a trick box across the back too but next time around I am thinking about a leaning post with storage under it and no box across the back. Since all of the aluminum will be custom made I want the boxes first. Well, I guess I might have missed if you put up a depiction but I can't picture what you are talking about in my head not being around a lot of docks. (more of a beach or ramp launcher in my boating days). what is a "trick" box? |
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says... On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:49:14 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 8/31/2012 1:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 8/31/2012 12:50 PM, wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:10:54 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:25:17 -0400, wrote: I can't find a resin dock box in the sizes I want but I have seen some real nice coolers that might work. === West Marine has a pretty good selection of dock boxes. Pricey, but they go on sale every once in a while. I am somewhat constrained on size and I have not had much luck finding a dock box that will work for me. It turns out there are only a few companies making these and they get relabeled by retailers. Don't know if this would work. Wifee has two at the barn, the girls love them. http://www.homedepot.com/buy/stanley-37-in-mobile-job-box-037025h.html#.UED4NpZdx_Q Just under 60 bucks, lock, extremely good material (you can stand on it, or I can anyway), wheels are not necessary in our use, but for you... could do the trick. Ooops, forgot, it has a pretty good collapsible handle opposite the wheels. All together, a pretty solid tool, if it's the tool you need in my opinion. I am using tool boxes now. We were trying to go another way but the 32" width seems to be a problem in a dock box and we want a height suitable as a seat with a cushion. We have a trick box across the back too but next time around I am thinking about a leaning post with storage under it and no box across the back. Since all of the aluminum will be custom made I want the boxes first. I'm thinking to get just exactly what you want, you'll have to build it. |
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:29:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
I am using tool boxes now. We were trying to go another way but the 32" width seems to be a problem in a dock box and we want a height suitable as a seat with a cushion. We have a trick box across the back too but next time around I am thinking about a leaning post with storage under it and no box across the back. Since all of the aluminum will be custom made I want the boxes first. I'm thinking to get just exactly what you want, you'll have to build it. === Yes, and it wouldn't be all that difficult for anyone who is halfway handy with wood working tools, epoxy and fiberglass. I'd start by laminating a few sheets of 1/4 inch exterior ply with one layer of relatively light weight glass on each side. It's easy to get the panels dead nutz flat that way and much easier to laminate than after it has been built into a box. Evaluate the panels for stiffness; laminate extra layers of glass on each side as needed for strength/rigidity but remember that the sides and bottom do not require extreme stiffness. Use the pre-laminated panels, cut out the pieces you need for the box, seal the edges of all pieces with epoxy, and then tack the whole thing together using clamps or light weight fasteners. Next step is to thicken some epoxy and filet all of the inside corners with something like a 1/2 inch radius (being careful to keep everything in square alignment). Cover the filets with one or two layers of 3 inch fiberglass tape/epoxy and let the whole thing cure. You should now have a very strong and rigid box assembly that can be filled/sanded/finished/painted the way you want. Make a cover using the same technique as the box, sizing it to overlap the edges by some small amount. The top will need to be stiffer than the sides and bottom if you are going to use it for seating. |
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On 9/1/2012 4:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:07:04 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 12:44 PM, wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:49:14 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 8/31/2012 1:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 8/31/2012 12:50 PM, wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:10:54 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:25:17 -0400, wrote: I can't find a resin dock box in the sizes I want but I have seen some real nice coolers that might work. === West Marine has a pretty good selection of dock boxes. Pricey, but they go on sale every once in a while. I am somewhat constrained on size and I have not had much luck finding a dock box that will work for me. It turns out there are only a few companies making these and they get relabeled by retailers. Don't know if this would work. Wifee has two at the barn, the girls love them. http://www.homedepot.com/buy/stanley-37-in-mobile-job-box-037025h.html#.UED4NpZdx_Q Just under 60 bucks, lock, extremely good material (you can stand on it, or I can anyway), wheels are not necessary in our use, but for you... could do the trick. Ooops, forgot, it has a pretty good collapsible handle opposite the wheels. All together, a pretty solid tool, if it's the tool you need in my opinion. I am using tool boxes now. We were trying to go another way but the 32" width seems to be a problem in a dock box and we want a height suitable as a seat with a cushion. We have a trick box across the back too but next time around I am thinking about a leaning post with storage under it and no box across the back. Since all of the aluminum will be custom made I want the boxes first. Well, I guess I might have missed if you put up a depiction but I can't picture what you are talking about in my head not being around a lot of docks. (more of a beach or ramp launcher in my boating days). what is a "trick" box? Why it is a typo ;-) Truck box Ok, Aluminum is pretty expensive though, going to have it welded? Somewhere I might have a pic of the aluminum diamond plate box I had built behind and level with the back seat of my CJ7 right before our trip to Indy in 89... It was welded, locked, very nice. Made a nice seat when the top was stored too and you could hang onto the roll bar. |
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m... On 8/30/12 6:22 PM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 8/27/12 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote: Which people? the ones whose kids wear $200 tennis shoes, and $59.50 baseball caps? who rent a small place but drive a leased luxury car? My daughter bought her condo when she was 25 years old. Drove a Ford. Did do some travel, but lived economically. Same condo comlex has a couple who rent the condo for $4k a month, and drive leased luxury sedans. Who is going to have a hard retirement? I'd bet on the couple who rent the condo having a happier retirement than your daughter. Several reasons, but one is this: you can't predict what the future will deal you, so it is important to have some fun while you can. Some 30 years ago, my doctor, a great doctor in his mid 40's, was shot by a burglar he caught at his house. The doc died a short time later. He didn't have any retirement. Another friend of mine, also a physician, died in his early 40's two weeks after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I am not saying you shouldn't save for your retirement. You should. But you should also go through life having fun, not just pinching pennies. -- What do the Republican Party of the United States and the Muslim Brotherhood of the Arab World have in common? They're both faith-based parties, they both deny science, and they both wage war on women. --------------------------------------------------------- who the heck said she did not have fun. She just pays for it now. While also saving for the future. Why spend $500+ a month for a car lease when you can buy a cheaper car for less per month and in 3 years you have equity in the car? She has been to Europe a couple times, Bora Bora and NZ, as well as the Cooke Islands. Seems as if she has a good life. Plus two nice girls and a husband. Plus she owns most of the property she resides in. A lot more than the bank. |
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On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote: I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you are looking for? This is what I am replacing I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the door. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg Hows about rotating the box counter clockwise 90 degrees? Is that doable? |
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says... On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote: I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you are looking for? This is what I am replacing I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the door. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg The pooch seems to like it just the way it is!!!! |
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On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:57:42 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote: I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you are looking for? This is what I am replacing I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the door. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg Hows about rotating the box counter clockwise 90 degrees? Is that doable? It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way. I have a 24X36 black box you can stand on. Lockable 2 ways. Costs less than $100. Think of it as waterproof storage space AND sitting/standing space. Does recommitting 6 square feet seem so bad now? |
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says... On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 14:02:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote: I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you are looking for? This is what I am replacing I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the door. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg The pooch seems to like it just the way it is!!!! Those 23 year old boxes are getting pretty tired. I was looking for an upgrade. Those were sold as tool boxes. It does seem to be about the perfect solution tho. My life jackets and other supplies stay dry and mildew free in there, not a mean trick in Florida. If they are that tight, I think I'd use them! If it ain't broke, don't fix it! |
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On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote: I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you are looking for? This is what I am replacing I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the door. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg Well, the dog could lose a few pounds but he seems to fit in the space just fine:) |
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On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:57:42 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 9/2/2012 1:49 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:58:53 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/1/2012 4:08 PM, wrote: I just did a quick google for dock boxes and got a million shapes and sizes... Is there something I missed in a post, something unusual you are looking for? This is what I am replacing I am constrained by the width between the edge of the boat and the door. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/ed%20on%20boat.jpg Hows about rotating the box counter clockwise 90 degrees? Is that doable? It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way. Sorry I missed the beginning of the conversation but I get it now. I guess aluminum might be best. Of course I would whip it out in a day out of Occoume Plywood, a quart of Epoxy, some wood flower and some two inch tape. I noticed someone suggested two layers of three inch tape, but you are not building a yacht, just a box:) You could also use a core material a lot lighter than plywood too... You could make it all composite with a honeycomb fill and tight weave fiberglass cloth... |
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On 9/2/2012 8:57 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:06:11 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote: It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way. Sorry I missed the beginning of the conversation but I get it now. I guess aluminum might be best. Of course I would whip it out in a day out of Occoume Plywood, a quart of Epoxy, some wood flower and some two inch tape. I noticed someone suggested two layers of three inch tape, but you are not building a yacht, just a box:) You could also use a core material a lot lighter than plywood too... You could make it all composite with a honeycomb fill and tight weave fiberglass cloth... I build my console, I know how to do it but it is not work I like to do. Right now I am looking at EvaKool 85 liter coolers (Maybe the IceKool) If I could find some of those "seconds" they have on their Australian site I would jump in a heartbeat. Retail I am looking at close to a grand. I am also not sure they are good at keeping water out but I think they are gasketed. A grand? Wow... Really never saw that coming. Damn son, build the stinkin' thing. Buy a nice plastic welder and have at it, it would be fun and still within budget... When you are done, you can send the welder to me:) |
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On 9/2/2012 9:39 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:30:33 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2012 8:57 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:06:11 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/2/2012 2:40 PM, wrote: It starts eating up deck space pretty fast that way. Sorry I missed the beginning of the conversation but I get it now. I guess aluminum might be best. Of course I would whip it out in a day out of Occoume Plywood, a quart of Epoxy, some wood flower and some two inch tape. I noticed someone suggested two layers of three inch tape, but you are not building a yacht, just a box:) You could also use a core material a lot lighter than plywood too... You could make it all composite with a honeycomb fill and tight weave fiberglass cloth... I build my console, I know how to do it but it is not work I like to do. Right now I am looking at EvaKool 85 liter coolers (Maybe the IceKool) If I could find some of those "seconds" they have on their Australian site I would jump in a heartbeat. Retail I am looking at close to a grand. I am also not sure they are good at keeping water out but I think they are gasketed. A grand? Wow... Really never saw that coming. Damn son, build the stinkin' thing. Buy a nice plastic welder and have at it, it would be fun and still within budget... When you are done, you can send the welder to me:) That is for 2 Have you priced dock boxes? The seconds are less than half price and I can live with a scratch or two. The distributor in Jupiter answered my Email today and I an going to see what he can come up with for me. Ok, that sounds better.. If you can get both for 500, that's pretty good I guess. So, anyway, I like the resin ones best from what I have seen... |
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