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On 8/13/2012 11:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man wrote: You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your "inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or conclusions ==== I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious beliefs. His compassion is like a piece of costume jewelry, he puts it on when he has someone to impress but it's not really "him"... :) |
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On 8/13/12 11:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man wrote: You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your "inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or conclusions ==== I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious beliefs. Your points of view are no more accurate than any of your other assumptions or conclusions. My "fun-poking" at organized religion knows no geographical borders. I got my first college degree out there among Mid Western farmers and had and have a good number of friends from those days who were and are religious. One of my college roomies was a devout young man who became an Episcopal priest. The irony is that while he believed in a creator, he didn't really give much credence to religion. After he graduated from seminary, he decided the best way to serve his maker was to counsel and sooth the incarcerated. Another college roomie was as Southern Baptist as they came in those days, and we're best friends to this day. I'm an agnostic, not an atheist. I have no way of knowing if there is a creator, though the logical part of my mind tells me there isn't one. I don't connect a creator with the religions man has created to service his beliefs and superstitions. As far as the drought goes, I don't think a creator has anything to do with it, one way or other other, nor do I believe rain will follow the prayers of any religious sect. But many of "the religious" do. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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X ` Man wrote:
On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... ...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too far to the right: "You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost 30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut." True, too. :) -------------------------------------------------- Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points to be made: I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy. So you don't care about the problems or how the problems can be fixed, you are only happy if the Democrats are behind it - good or bad. Got it. It doesn't get any more simple-minded than that. |
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On 8/12/2012 10:07 AM, Meyer wrote: On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... ...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too far to the right: "You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost 30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut." True, too. :) -------------------------------------------------- Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points to be made: I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy. --------------------------------------- I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one. Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra. Harry's like a programmed robot. He is like a slug.. you poke him with a stick and he puts out a line of slime. Perfect! |
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