Perfect attack ad from...
 

....David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

....David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone
too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for
almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare
costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so
that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare
will become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone.
Key points to be made:

1. As introduced last year, those who are 55 years of age or older
are grandfathered into the existing program. Nothing changes.

2. If implemented, the government would no longer pay doctors to
treat Medicare beneficiaries. Instead, beneficiaries would buy their
own private insurance plans, and the
government would give people money to pay to buy health plans from an
approved list. Medicare would become the broker and regulator of
approved plans.

3. Ryan has modified his plan to include a "public option" that
allows you to opt out of the new program altogether and have the
government pay for service directly.

4. It's a progressive plan. Democrats should love it. If you’re
poorer or sicker, you get more money from Medicare to cover your
premiums.

There has not been a realistic plan put forward that is any better at
saving Medicare by either party. There's all kinds of drum beating
going on about halving defense spending, etc. to pay for a national
health plan but none that are realistic in terms of happening anytime
soon. So, rather than shoot holes in the barrel without looking
inside, I think some credit should be given to Ryan for putting forth
something that could work and prevent the system from completely
collapsing. Nothing in this world is free, and that includes health
care.

I view Ryan's plan as addressing one of the most costly components of
health care today .... doctors and hospitals that order unnecessary
tests and procedures simply because the government is paying for it.

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On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone
too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for
almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare
costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so
that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare
will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key
points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about
our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


---------------------------------------

I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/12/2012 9:05 AM, X ` Man wrote:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.



Translation: If it's not democrat sponsored, Krause won't support it,
even if it is the only viable solution.

Major solutions to problems are going to take a bi partisan effort to
implement.

The we's against the they's mentality is killing the country, the same
way unions killed American industry.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


---------------------------------------

I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Harry's like a programmed robot.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/12/2012 10:07 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


---------------------------------------

I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Harry's like a programmed robot.

He is like a slug.. you poke him with a stick and he puts out a line of
slime.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

In article m,
says...

On 8/12/2012 9:05 AM, X ` Man wrote:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.



Translation: If it's not democrat sponsored, Krause won't support it,
even if it is the only viable solution.

Major solutions to problems are going to take a bi partisan effort to
implement.

The we's against the they's mentality is killing the country, the same
way unions killed American industry.

Agreed.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

In article om,
says...

On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65?and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


---------------------------------------

I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Harry's like a programmed robot.

Just not a very bright one...

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/12/2012 10:11 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/12/2012 10:07 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone
too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for
almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare
costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so
that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


---------------------------------------

I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Harry's like a programmed robot.

He is like a slug.. you poke him with a stick and he puts out a line of
slime.
Good one.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/12/2012 10:14 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 8/12/2012 9:05 AM, X ` Man wrote:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.



Translation: If it's not democrat sponsored, Krause won't support it,
even if it is the only viable solution.

Major solutions to problems are going to take a bi partisan effort to
implement.

The we's against the they's mentality is killing the country, the same
way unions killed American industry.

Agreed.


Raise the flag and set off fireworks. We agree on something.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/12/2012 10:14 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65?and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


---------------------------------------

I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Harry's like a programmed robot.

Just not a very bright one...

The intelligence of a robot is controlled by the programmer. Without the
programmers, Krause would just be a pile of crumbling bones.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:31:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

More Krause Krapp.

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:32:59 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

I recently read that former Boston mayor Ray Flynn, a Democrat, has
endorsed Romney for POTUS. Go figure.



Flynn has also endorsed Scott Brown. He's obviously changed parties.

===

I don't know much about Flynn but maybe he's one of these guys who
actually thinks about issues and candidates instead of knee jerk
voting along party lines. This country could use more of that in my
opinion.

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On 8/12/12 6:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:32:59 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

I recently read that former Boston mayor Ray Flynn, a Democrat, has
endorsed Romney for POTUS. Go figure.



Flynn has also endorsed Scott Brown. He's obviously changed parties.

===

I don't know much about Flynn but maybe he's one of these guys who
actually thinks about issues and candidates instead of knee jerk
voting along party lines. This country could use more of that in my
opinion.



And it doesn't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime...

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

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On Aug 12, 5:44*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 8/12/12 6:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:32:59 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

I recently read that former Boston mayor Ray Flynn, a Democrat, has
endorsed Romney for POTUS. * * Go figure.

Flynn has also endorsed Scott Brown. He's obviously changed parties.

===

I don't know much about Flynn but maybe he's one of these guys who
actually thinks about issues and candidates instead of knee jerk
voting along party lines. * This country could use more of that in my
opinion.

And it doesn't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime...

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

It didn't this year....

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On 8/12/12 6:56 PM, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 5:44 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 8/12/12 6:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:32:59 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

I recently read that former Boston mayor Ray Flynn, a Democrat, has
endorsed Romney for POTUS. Go figure.

Flynn has also endorsed Scott Brown. He's obviously changed parties.

===

I don't know much about Flynn but maybe he's one of these guys who
actually thinks about issues and candidates instead of knee jerk
voting along party lines. This country could use more of that in my
opinion.

And it doesn't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime...

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

It didn't this year....


What? All those prayers weren't answered?

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:01:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

And it doesn't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime...


It didn't this year....



What? All those prayers weren't answered?

===

I guess we can infer that your boundless compassion does not extend as
far as the farm states.

WAFA

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On 8/13/12 12:19 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:01:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

And it doesn't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime...


It didn't this year....



What? All those prayers weren't answered?

===

I guess we can infer that your boundless compassion does not extend as
far as the farm states.

WAFA



You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your
"inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or
conclusions, w'hine.

Surely a benevolent "creator" wouldn't let those who believe suffer. Oh,
wait...

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your
"inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or
conclusions

====

I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion
for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic
election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as
conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious
beliefs.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/13/2012 11:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your
"inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or
conclusions

====

I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion
for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic
election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as
conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious
beliefs.


His compassion is like a piece of costume jewelry, he puts it on when he
has someone to impress but it's not really "him"... :)

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On 8/13/12 11:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your
"inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or
conclusions

====

I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion
for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic
election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as
conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious
beliefs.



Your points of view are no more accurate than any of your other
assumptions or conclusions. My "fun-poking" at organized religion knows
no geographical borders.

I got my first college degree out there among Mid Western farmers and
had and have a good number of friends from those days who were and are
religious. One of my college roomies was a devout young man who became
an Episcopal priest. The irony is that while he believed in a creator,
he didn't really give much credence to religion. After he graduated from
seminary, he decided the best way to serve his maker was to counsel and
sooth the incarcerated. Another college roomie was as Southern Baptist
as they came in those days, and we're best friends to this day.

I'm an agnostic, not an atheist. I have no way of knowing if there is a
creator, though the logical part of my mind tells me there isn't one. I
don't connect a creator with the religions man has created to service
his beliefs and superstitions.

As far as the drought goes, I don't think a creator has anything to do
with it, one way or other other, nor do I believe rain will follow the
prayers of any religious sect. But many of "the religious" do.





--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/13/12 11:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your
"inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or
conclusions

====

I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion
for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic
election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as
conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious
beliefs.



Your points of view are no more accurate than any of your other
assumptions or conclusions. My "fun-poking" at organized religion knows
no geographical borders.

I got my first college degree out there among Mid Western farmers and
had and have a good number of friends from those days who were and are
religious. One of my college roomies was a devout young man who became
an Episcopal priest. The irony is that while he believed in a creator,
he didn't really give much credence to religion. After he graduated from
seminary, he decided the best way to serve his maker was to counsel and
sooth the incarcerated. Another college roomie was as Southern Baptist
as they came in those days, and we're best friends to this day.

I'm an agnostic, not an atheist. I have no way of knowing if there is a
creator, though the logical part of my mind tells me there isn't one. I
don't connect a creator with the religions man has created to service
his beliefs and superstitions.

As far as the drought goes, I don't think a creator has anything to do
with it, one way or other other, nor do I believe rain will follow the
prayers of any religious sect. But many of "the religious" do.

"Self praise sucks" Harry Krause 2012

Perfect attack ad from...
 

On 8/13/12 11:32 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/13/12 11:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:36:37 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

You are free to "infer" whatever you want, but that doesn't mean your
"inferences" are any more accurate than any of your other assumptions or
conclusions

====

I've come around to the point of view that your so called compassion
for the common man is limited to those who might vote for a Democratic
election ticket. Those drought stricken mid-western farmers are as
conservative as you can get, and you poke fun at their religious
beliefs.



Your points of view are no more accurate than any of your other
assumptions or conclusions. My "fun-poking" at organized religion knows
no geographical borders.

I got my first college degree out there among Mid Western farmers and
had and have a good number of friends from those days who were and are
religious. One of my college roomies was a devout young man who became
an Episcopal priest. The irony is that while he believed in a creator,
he didn't really give much credence to religion. After he graduated from
seminary, he decided the best way to serve his maker was to counsel and
sooth the incarcerated. Another college roomie was as Southern Baptist
as they came in those days, and we're best friends to this day.

I'm an agnostic, not an atheist. I have no way of knowing if there is a
creator, though the logical part of my mind tells me there isn't one. I
don't connect a creator with the religions man has created to service
his beliefs and superstitions.

As far as the drought goes, I don't think a creator has anything to do
with it, one way or other other, nor do I believe rain will follow the
prayers of any religious sect. But many of "the religious" do.

"Self praise sucks" Harry Krause 2012


I suppose for imbeciles like you and scotty, those of us who can think
and express ourselves are anathema. Carry on, stupid.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

X ` Man wrote:
On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

--------------------------------------------------

Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about
our aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


So you don't care about the problems or how the problems can be fixed,
you are only happy if the Democrats are behind it - good or bad. Got
it. It doesn't get any more simple-minded than that.

Perfect attack ad from...
 

JustWait wrote:
On 8/12/2012 10:07 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 8/12/2012 9:25 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/12/12 7:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

...David Frum, Republican conservative who thinks his party has
gone too
far to the right:


"You've worked hard all your life. You've paid Medicare taxes for
almost
30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won't be there for
you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan
you'll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare
costs
when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so
that
millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut."

True, too. :)

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Not exactly. Those are the fighting words by those opposed to
Medicare reform, but don't really tell the whole story. Ryan has
modified his original plan several times in attempts to make it more
palatable to all. Bottom line is that unless modified, Medicare
will
become insolvent and there won't be any program for anyone. Key points
to be made:


I appreciate your analysis of Ryan's plans, but I prefer modifications
of Medicare to come from the party of those who actually care about our
aging population, and not from a snarky young congressmen and a
political party whose only interest is protecting the wealthy.


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I am surprised at your response .... or the lack of a thoughtful one.
Your comment is not a position ... it's a mantra.

Harry's like a programmed robot.

He is like a slug.. you poke him with a stick and he puts out a line
of slime.
Perfect!