On 8/11/2012 11:27 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:57:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?

****ing bigoted *******....

Well, Kevin, I suppose that's as literate as I could expect from a liberal.

And you are still very bigoted. And an asshole. Hey, are you really so
stupid that you think I'm Kevin?

Who's Kevin?

On 8/11/2012 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:36:44 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:54:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 1:50 AM, wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

The current answer I am hearing from the victims was that this
evaluation should have immediately been put in the FBI NCIC database
and available to anyone who is willing to look for it, including the
firearms background check.
Unfortunately that would also be available to credit agencies,
employers and insurance companies. (hence the privacy concern)



I'm not sure, but I don't think HIPAA allows that.

Therein lies the problem doesn't it. Public safety vs privacy.

You end up finding yourself in exactly the same position as the NRA
and I am sure you are both uncomfortable there.
Should a doctor or psychologist be able to put an entry in the NCIC
that would block a gun sale and how do you do that without also
telling everyone else why.
It does open up the question, what else would that information be used
for?
Would employers avoid hiring that person?
Would landlords not rent to them?
Would it affect their credit score?
Would they have problems getting accepted to college?
That would, in effect, be like having "a police record" with all the
ramifications that implies.


.... without ever being charged or convicted of a crime, but progressives
see that as ok, as long as the folks they hold near and dear
(themselves) are not held to the same standard...

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On 8/11/2012 11:27 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:57:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?

****ing bigoted *******....

Well, Kevin, I suppose that's as literate as I could expect from a liberal.

And you are still very bigoted. And an asshole. Hey, are you really so
stupid that you think I'm Kevin?

Who's Kevin?

Don't know, but John keeps calling me him!

In article , says...

On 8/11/2012 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:36:44 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:54:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 1:50 AM, wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

The current answer I am hearing from the victims was that this
evaluation should have immediately been put in the FBI NCIC database
and available to anyone who is willing to look for it, including the
firearms background check.
Unfortunately that would also be available to credit agencies,
employers and insurance companies. (hence the privacy concern)



I'm not sure, but I don't think HIPAA allows that.

Therein lies the problem doesn't it. Public safety vs privacy.

You end up finding yourself in exactly the same position as the NRA
and I am sure you are both uncomfortable there.
Should a doctor or psychologist be able to put an entry in the NCIC
that would block a gun sale and how do you do that without also
telling everyone else why.
It does open up the question, what else would that information be used
for?
Would employers avoid hiring that person?
Would landlords not rent to them?
Would it affect their credit score?
Would they have problems getting accepted to college?
That would, in effect, be like having "a police record" with all the
ramifications that implies.


... without ever being charged or convicted of a crime, but progressives
see that as ok, as long as the folks they hold near and dear
(themselves) are not held to the same standard...

More stupid, insane bull**** from Scotty.

On 8/11/12 2:04 PM, JustWait wrote:

... without ever being charged or convicted of a crime, but progressives
see that as ok, as long as the folks they hold near and dear
(themselves) are not held to the same standard...

For a guy who is a few dollars away from being on the dole, you sure
post funny stuff.


--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:
Meyer wrote:
On 8/10/2012 8:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:

Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that
way we
can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the
criminally insane. Ammo too!

What's your solution, jps?

Should this country ban all guns?

Laws and bans only affect law abiding citizens.
And those without a history of mental deficiency.


So, you don't have a gun, right, Earliepoo?

I have many. I just bought an SR1911 last week so now I have a .22LR,
..25acp, (2).357 Mag, (3) 9MM, .44 Mag, and .45acp. I didn't include my
rifles or shotguns. Before you go crazy, I'm a collector. BTW - Your
name-calling is sophomoric.

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:51:50 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:17:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 5:05 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.
So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous drooling in a boating newsgroup solve *anything* ?
Does Herring playing golf "solve anything?" Probably just frustrates
the **** out of him, confirms his lack of athleticism and furthers his
low self esteem.

That's the perfect opportunity to blame his failures on the black man.
You lefties are over the top!
Earl, don't get down on yourself for this, but it requires a sense of
humor to keep up.
A personal attack and a racist remark don't require a sense of humor -
they are both lame and hardly funny.

On Aug 10, 9:50*pm, Earl wrote:


Not true. *I have many guns and I am a target shooter.

Me too!

On 8/11/12 10:05 PM, Tim wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:50 pm, Earl wrote:


Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.

Me too!



Earl is a gun accident waiting to happen.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

On 8/11/2012 10:05 PM, Tim wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:50 pm, Earl wrote:


Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.

Me too!


Yeah Tim, I guess it's like "is, is"... It all depends on what you call
a target Right Tim??? LOL! Poor little varmint !!