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John H[_2_] August 12th 12 01:19 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:38:30 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
WASHINGTON — A Washington, D.C., musician who ordered a flat-screen TV
through Amazon.com was shocked to receive a semiautomatic assault
rifle instead.

Thirty-eight-year-old Seth Horvitz says he purchased the 39-inch
television from a third-party seller. A box arrived from UPS on
Tuesday evening, and it seemed too small to contain the TV. He says he
initially thought it contained accessories.

But when he opened it, he found a Sig Sauer military-style rifle. He
says he had never held a gun before he felt the trigger of the rifle.

An invoice showed that the gun was intended for delivery to a firearms
dealer in Duncansville, Penn. Horvitz called police, who took the gun
and are investigating how the mistaken shipment occurred.

Amazon.com and United Parcel Service had no immediate comment.

Not only is it butt easy to get these deadly weapons, they're in such
high supply you can now get 'em by mistake.
Your car is a deadly weapon. Get over it.
Why do people with any sort of brain continue to make this argument?

Cars aren't designed to be used to kill things.

My kid isn't learning to drive by hitting within the outline of a
person on the street.

Get a ****ing clue.

Guns are used for target shooting, hunting, and also competition. There
is also home defense but it's obvious that makes you **** your pants.


Had a gun, Earl. Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.

I enjoy fine machinery as much as anyone, just concerned about having
toys that are designed to be deadly.


So what would be your solution to the problem, jps?

Meyer[_2_] August 12th 12 02:23 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On 8/12/2012 8:19 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:38:30 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
WASHINGTON — A Washington, D.C., musician who ordered a flat-screen TV
through Amazon.com was shocked to receive a semiautomatic assault
rifle instead.

Thirty-eight-year-old Seth Horvitz says he purchased the 39-inch
television from a third-party seller. A box arrived from UPS on
Tuesday evening, and it seemed too small to contain the TV. He says he
initially thought it contained accessories.

But when he opened it, he found a Sig Sauer military-style rifle. He
says he had never held a gun before he felt the trigger of the rifle.

An invoice showed that the gun was intended for delivery to a firearms
dealer in Duncansville, Penn. Horvitz called police, who took the gun
and are investigating how the mistaken shipment occurred.

Amazon.com and United Parcel Service had no immediate comment.

Not only is it butt easy to get these deadly weapons, they're in such
high supply you can now get 'em by mistake.
Your car is a deadly weapon. Get over it.
Why do people with any sort of brain continue to make this argument?

Cars aren't designed to be used to kill things.

My kid isn't learning to drive by hitting within the outline of a
person on the street.

Get a ****ing clue.
Guns are used for target shooting, hunting, and also competition. There
is also home defense but it's obvious that makes you **** your pants.


Had a gun, Earl. Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.

I enjoy fine machinery as much as anyone, just concerned about having
toys that are designed to be deadly.


So what would be your solution to the problem, jps?

Being fearful.

North Star August 12th 12 03:49 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On Aug 12, 9:19*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:38:30 -0400, Earl
wrote:


jps wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:39:20 -0400, Earl
wrote:


jps wrote:
WASHINGTON — A Washington, D.C., musician who ordered a flat-screen TV
through Amazon.com was shocked to receive a semiautomatic assault
rifle instead.


Thirty-eight-year-old Seth Horvitz says he purchased the 39-inch
television from a third-party seller. A box arrived from UPS on
Tuesday evening, and it seemed too small to contain the TV. He says he
initially thought it contained accessories.


But when he opened it, he found a Sig Sauer military-style rifle. He
says he had never held a gun before he felt the trigger of the rifle.


An invoice showed that the gun was intended for delivery to a firearms
dealer in Duncansville, Penn. Horvitz called police, who took the gun
and are investigating how the mistaken shipment occurred.


Amazon.com and United Parcel Service had no immediate comment.


Not only is it butt easy to get these deadly weapons, they're in such
high supply you can now get 'em by mistake.
Your car is a deadly weapon. Get over it.
Why do people with any sort of brain continue to make this argument?


Cars aren't designed to be used to kill things.


My kid isn't learning to drive by hitting within the outline of a
person on the street.


Get a ****ing clue.
Guns are used for target shooting, hunting, and also competition. There
is also home defense but it's obvious that makes you **** your pants.


Had a gun, Earl. *Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.


I enjoy fine machinery as much as anyone, just concerned about having
toys that are designed to be deadly.


So what would be your solution to the problem, jps?


As a casual observer, I've noticed that an awful lot of ex-military
men are involved in those fatal shootings when the shooter is over the
age of majority.
Maybe a good start would be to ban ex-military from owning firearms.
After all, the military spent a couple of years programming them to
shoot & kill..... not easily erased when the career is over.

Tim August 12th 12 07:16 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On Aug 9, 1:59*pm, jps wrote:
WASHINGTON — A Washington, D.C., musician who ordered a flat-screen TV
through Amazon.com was shocked to receive a semiautomatic assault
rifle instead.

Thirty-eight-year-old Seth Horvitz says he purchased the 39-inch
television from a third-party seller. A box arrived from UPS on
Tuesday evening, and it seemed too small to contain the TV. He says he
initially thought it contained accessories.

But when he opened it, he found a Sig Sauer military-style rifle. He
says he had never held a gun before he felt the trigger of the rifle.

An invoice showed that the gun was intended for delivery to a firearms
dealer in Duncansville, Penn. Horvitz called police, who took the gun
and are investigating how the mistaken shipment occurred.

Amazon.com and United Parcel Service had no immediate comment.

Not only is it butt easy to get these deadly weapons, they're in such
high supply you can now get 'em by mistake.


Wow!! he got a Sig716 chambered in .308 sent right to his door step.
Oh, he did the right thing by turning it in. I would have as well, but
I would have been very tempted to grab a couple boxes of shells and
take it to the rifle range to make sure it was sighted in correctly.
After all, there's no need to accept defective merchandise.

:)

X ` Man[_3_] August 12th 12 07:21 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On 8/12/12 2:16 PM, Tim wrote:
On Aug 9, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
WASHINGTON — A Washington, D.C., musician who ordered a flat-screen TV
through Amazon.com was shocked to receive a semiautomatic assault
rifle instead.

Thirty-eight-year-old Seth Horvitz says he purchased the 39-inch
television from a third-party seller. A box arrived from UPS on
Tuesday evening, and it seemed too small to contain the TV. He says he
initially thought it contained accessories.

But when he opened it, he found a Sig Sauer military-style rifle. He
says he had never held a gun before he felt the trigger of the rifle.

An invoice showed that the gun was intended for delivery to a firearms
dealer in Duncansville, Penn. Horvitz called police, who took the gun
and are investigating how the mistaken shipment occurred.

Amazon.com and United Parcel Service had no immediate comment.

Not only is it butt easy to get these deadly weapons, they're in such
high supply you can now get 'em by mistake.


Wow!! he got a Sig716 chambered in .308 sent right to his door step.
Oh, he did the right thing by turning it in. I would have as well, but
I would have been very tempted to grab a couple boxes of shells and
take it to the rifle range to make sure it was sighted in correctly.
After all, there's no need to accept defective merchandise.

:)


For $100, you could have found someone to turn it into full auto and
then shot up a bowling alley. Well, not you, of course, but there are a
couple of posters here who might do that sort of thing.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

jps August 14th 12 08:19 AM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:50:02 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:



Had a gun, Earl. Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.


I hope you also filled in your pool. (the leading cause of child death
in the US)


Greg, a pool in the Pacific NW doesn't make much sense. My kids play
soccer, I have the medical bills to prove it.

X ` Man[_3_] August 14th 12 05:01 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On 8/14/12 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:19:35 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:50:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:



Had a gun, Earl. Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.

I hope you also filled in your pool. (the leading cause of child death
in the US)


Greg, a pool in the Pacific NW doesn't make much sense. My kids play
soccer, I have the medical bills to prove it.


I hope you don't take them there in your car. Child death in motor
vehicle accidents are 30-50 times as likely as a firearm accident.
(according to CDC)



Oh, please...you are making no sense at all anymore on this issue.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 14th 12 05:19 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On 8/14/12 12:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:01:36 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/14/12 11:59 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:19:35 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:50:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:



Had a gun, Earl. Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.

I hope you also filled in your pool. (the leading cause of child death
in the US)

Greg, a pool in the Pacific NW doesn't make much sense. My kids play
soccer, I have the medical bills to prove it.

I hope you don't take them there in your car. Child death in motor
vehicle accidents are 30-50 times as likely as a firearm accident.
(according to CDC)



Oh, please...you are making no sense at all anymore on this issue.


JP is the one who said her got rid of his gun because it was a
perceived hazard to his kids. I am simply pointing out where the real
accident hazards are. (and the leading cause of deaths are accidents)
From 1-4 the biggest hazard is drowning. From 5-24 it is motor vehicle
accidents in every 5 year cohort by a long shot. 25-34 it is
"poisoning" which I assume is CDC speak for drug overdose.



You're pointing out nonsense.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 14th 12 06:14 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On 8/14/12 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:19:16 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:


You're pointing out nonsense.


This appears to be the place for it.


I won't argue against that. It is, indeed.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

JustWait[_2_] August 14th 12 06:24 PM

TV or Sig Sauer? Who cares?
 
On 8/14/2012 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:19:35 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:50:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:55:31 -0700, jps wrote:



Had a gun, Earl. Decided I didn't want it around in the same house as
my children.

I hope you also filled in your pool. (the leading cause of child death
in the US)


Greg, a pool in the Pacific NW doesn't make much sense. My kids play
soccer, I have the medical bills to prove it.


I hope you don't take them there in your car. Child death in motor
vehicle accidents are 30-50 times as likely as a firearm accident.
(according to CDC)



That's what gets me about progressives. They can't see anybody having
needs or ever rights that stretch beyond what they find necessary for
their own personal existence... I know a person in DC that's always
espousing the bad points of owning an automobile. As if they don't
understand that I don't live where everything I need in life is within
walking distance. Oh yeah, almost forgot... When they do need a car,
they just put the plastic in a machine and drive off with a rental
called a zip-car... LOL! I guess it's ok to use a car that is used
almost 24 7, as long as you don't own it:)


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