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Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh?
Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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"X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. |
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On 8/6/2012 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Wow, really didn't realize how those numbers work. Jess is a 130 :) That's pretty good huh? |
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On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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"X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. |
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On 8/6/12 12:25 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's lonely here at the top! :) (Just a joke, fellas...) -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message om... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message om... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. ---------------------------------------------------- I've seen people with barely average IQ's accomplish some great things. They just work harder at it. |
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On 8/6/12 2:01 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. ---------------------------------------------------- I've seen people with barely average IQ's accomplish some great things. They just work harder at it. Which usually has nothing to do with gravitating towards simple answers about complex *abstract* issues or even wrestling with those sorts of complex issues. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. =========================== As a girl told me when I was stationed in Biloxi in 1965. We have white trash with little skills. But no one wants to be at the bottom of the totem pole, so they use racism to raise their esteem in their own eyes. One of the the major problems with racism in the south. |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message om... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. |
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On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
=============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:01:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message news:ZqednT4424qqVoLNnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@earthlink. com... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. ---------------------------------------------------- I've seen people with barely average IQ's accomplish some great things. They just work harder at it. Without a doubt, and plenty of people with above average IQs squander the gift. But the vast majority of those on the IQ bell curve remain true to their ability to comprehend, store information and synthesize ideas and plans. Those on the lower end of the curse are trapped by an inability to deal well with complexity and therefore gravitate towards simple answers as a way to gain comfort and peace. Will Rogers had it right when he said "If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out." |
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:04:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote: =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry. Gotta go for the personal attack, huh Harry? WATOABH! |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message news:ZqednT4424qqVoLNnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@earthlink. com... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. "Seems as if...." I'm sure you've got plenty of stats to support your assertion. Not. Given the institutional racism that's existed in this country for hundreds of years, you think that would be trumped by people's tendency toward conservatism, assuming a low IQ? |
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On 8/6/12 4:34 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:04:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote: =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry. Gotta go for the personal attack, huh Harry? WATOABH! Nope. Reality. If you supported Sarah Palin, you are permanently disqualified from fact-based discussions about current events. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:47:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote: On 8/6/12 4:34 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:04:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote: =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry. Gotta go for the personal attack, huh Harry? WATOABH! Nope. Reality. If you supported Sarah Palin, you are permanently disqualified from fact-based discussions about current events. Agreed. |
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says... On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:18:17 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. They do seem to have more trouble navigating a complex ballot, finding their polling place and having a good enough job to have an ID with a picture on it. You talking about the folks who've experience 200 years of institutionalized racism who are easily identified as different from white? You do know that slavery is still practiced widely around the world. I would hope that you use your "intelligence" and "energy" to do something about it. Or, are you one of the NIMBY's? |
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On 8/6/12 7:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:16:48 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Who would have thought I was in Bill Clintons class of smart? Bill Clinton may have had a high IQ but he was pretty stupid. Did he really think any of his lies would hold? For that matter how smart are you if you are sticking your pecker in girls around the office? Still obsessed with Bill's sex life, eh? -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On 8/6/2012 7:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:07:16 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 6:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:40:57 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:18:17 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. They do seem to have more trouble navigating a complex ballot, finding their polling place and having a good enough job to have an ID with a picture on it. You talking about the folks who've experience 200 years of institutionalized racism who are easily identified as different from white? Why is everything racial with you and Harry. Who is the racist here? Are you really saying this lack of cognitive skill is racially based? It just seems to be Democrats. In Palm Beach County the butterfly ballot baffled old white people. The butterfly ballot baffled a lot of people, from voters to vote counters, and it was easy to see why. Those being disenfranchised by white Republicans tend to be older, poorer, and minorities. The butterfly ballot was much ado about nothing. They gave it to a class of second graders and they figured it out with no problems. (using fictional candidates) It is even questionable that anyone was actually confused. 3200 people punched Buchanan, about a third of the number of people who voted for him in the primary, with far fewer people voting in the primary and a single page ballot. There was absolutely zero difference for the counter. That 3505 card reader just read it like any other punch card and when they held it up to manually count it, they were just looking at the hole. The people are allegedly being disenfranchised by complicated procedures. It would be less intelligent people baffled by that wouldn't it? BTW that evil plot to steal Gore votes was perpetrated by a Democratically run election board. (Palm Beach is a very "blue" county) Were they scheming or just dumb? They were trying to cheat any way they could. I am sure Ohio will be ripe with cheating this time around.. Look for more vote buying and Mickey Mouse living on every block.. |
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On 8/6/12 8:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/6/2012 7:46 PM, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:07:16 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 6:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:40:57 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:18:17 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. They do seem to have more trouble navigating a complex ballot, finding their polling place and having a good enough job to have an ID with a picture on it. You talking about the folks who've experience 200 years of institutionalized racism who are easily identified as different from white? Why is everything racial with you and Harry. Who is the racist here? Are you really saying this lack of cognitive skill is racially based? It just seems to be Democrats. In Palm Beach County the butterfly ballot baffled old white people. The butterfly ballot baffled a lot of people, from voters to vote counters, and it was easy to see why. Those being disenfranchised by white Republicans tend to be older, poorer, and minorities. The butterfly ballot was much ado about nothing. They gave it to a class of second graders and they figured it out with no problems. (using fictional candidates) It is even questionable that anyone was actually confused. 3200 people punched Buchanan, about a third of the number of people who voted for him in the primary, with far fewer people voting in the primary and a single page ballot. There was absolutely zero difference for the counter. That 3505 card reader just read it like any other punch card and when they held it up to manually count it, they were just looking at the hole. The people are allegedly being disenfranchised by complicated procedures. It would be less intelligent people baffled by that wouldn't it? BTW that evil plot to steal Gore votes was perpetrated by a Democratically run election board. (Palm Beach is a very "blue" county) Were they scheming or just dumb? They were trying to cheat any way they could. I am sure Ohio will be ripe with cheating this time around.. Look for more vote buying and Mickey Mouse living on every block.. You're sure? What the hell do you know about election procedures in Ohio? Answer? Nothing. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On 8/6/12 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:55:20 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 7:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:16:48 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Who would have thought I was in Bill Clintons class of smart? Bill Clinton may have had a high IQ but he was pretty stupid. Did he really think any of his lies would hold? For that matter how smart are you if you are sticking your pecker in girls around the office? Still obsessed with Bill's sex life, eh? The issue was how smart he was supposed to be. That was dumb. It will also be his legacy That must be why he is so popular today, eh? -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote: =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. ------------------- Must have hit a sore point with you. right to the personal sneers. Zell could not have screwed up the country as much as the last 2 Presidents have managed to screw the pooch. |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message news:ZqednT4424qqVoLNnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@earthlink. com... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. "Seems as if...." I'm sure you've got plenty of stats to support your assertion. Not. Given the institutional racism that's existed in this country for hundreds of years, you think that would be trumped by people's tendency toward conservatism, assuming a low IQ? ------------------------ Huh? As to institutional racism. there has been discrimination against, Blacks, Irish, Mormon's were officially allowed to be killed with no penalty. Only religion so done in the history of the USA. We now have reverse racism. Can not get a job if white, college educated, but a lesser qualified person of black color will be advanced ahead of time. Mexicans have been discriminated against and they seem to hold a majority of the jobs these days, without the governmental support other people have. Maybe because they can add and subtract and do not have a 50-73% dropout rate from school. Why do I have to show an ID to get on an airplane, but not to vote? |
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On 8/7/2012 12:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. "Seems as if...." I'm sure you've got plenty of stats to support your assertion. Not. Given the institutional racism that's existed in this country for hundreds of years, you think that would be trumped by people's tendency toward conservatism, assuming a low IQ? ------------------------ Huh? As to institutional racism. there has been discrimination against, Blacks, Irish, Mormon's were officially allowed to be killed with no penalty. Only religion so done in the history of the USA. We now have reverse racism. Can not get a job if white, college educated, but a lesser qualified person of black color will be advanced ahead of time. Mexicans have been discriminated against and they seem to hold a majority of the jobs these days, without the governmental support other people have. Maybe because they can add and subtract and do not have a 50-73% dropout rate from school. Why do I have to show an ID to get on an airplane, but not to vote? The hypocrisy is a blatant support of the democrats best election tool, voter fraud... |
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"JustWait" wrote in message ...
On 8/7/2012 12:03 AM, Califbill wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood." -------------------------------------------- I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to productive use. It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and simple answers. Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable wrestling with complex issues. =============================== Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism. "Seems as if...." I'm sure you've got plenty of stats to support your assertion. Not. Given the institutional racism that's existed in this country for hundreds of years, you think that would be trumped by people's tendency toward conservatism, assuming a low IQ? ------------------------ Huh? As to institutional racism. there has been discrimination against, Blacks, Irish, Mormon's were officially allowed to be killed with no penalty. Only religion so done in the history of the USA. We now have reverse racism. Can not get a job if white, college educated, but a lesser qualified person of black color will be advanced ahead of time. Mexicans have been discriminated against and they seem to hold a majority of the jobs these days, without the governmental support other people have. Maybe because they can add and subtract and do not have a 50-73% dropout rate from school. Why do I have to show an ID to get on an airplane, but not to vote? The hypocrisy is a blatant support of the democrats best election tool, voter fraud... -------------------------------------- They don't have to depend on voter fraud. Has happened. Most likely why JFK became POTUS. But the problem is that people have learned they can vote themselves money from the rest of the people. Forget the person who said that would be the end of Democracy. Are problem is we have decided to dumb down the population and people are not required to work for a nice life. Only country in the world where the poor are fat and get a car and color TV and cellphone. We have priced ourselves out of the manufacturing game, and for the last 30 years have borrowed money and sent it mostly to Asia buying their crap. Go to a fast food restaurant and after the kid rings up the bill add a couple cents to round out the change to an even number. The kid will brain freeze most likely. Unless it is some Mexican kid who has had to learn to survive. Our schools are run by the department of Education. What a disaster! 40-75% dropout rates, graduates that can not read their diplomas. How are we to be competitive? My industry was High Tech. Lots of underemployed American Engineers. Because the government with even a 10% unemployment rate, is still issuing 180,000 H-1 visas a year. Keeps the salaries down in engineering jobs. |
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On 8/6/12 10:56 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:15:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 9:34 PM, wrote: The issue was how smart he was supposed to be. That was dumb. It will also be his legacy That must be why he is so popular today, eh? People like a bad boy, That is why Charlie Sheen keeps getting work. Oh, right. Sheesh. You should consider cutting back on the kool-aid. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:34:17 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:55:20 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 7:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:16:48 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Who would have thought I was in Bill Clintons class of smart? Bill Clinton may have had a high IQ but he was pretty stupid. Did he really think any of his lies would hold? For that matter how smart are you if you are sticking your pecker in girls around the office? Still obsessed with Bill's sex life, eh? The issue was how smart he was supposed to be. That was dumb. It will also be his legacy Harry knows better than to discuss an issue and lose. He persists in changing it to a personal attack.... and losing. |
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On 8/7/2012 6:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:34:17 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:55:20 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 7:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:16:48 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Who would have thought I was in Bill Clintons class of smart? Bill Clinton may have had a high IQ but he was pretty stupid. Did he really think any of his lies would hold? For that matter how smart are you if you are sticking your pecker in girls around the office? Still obsessed with Bill's sex life, eh? The issue was how smart he was supposed to be. That was dumb. It will also be his legacy Harry knows better than to discuss an issue and lose. He persists in changing it to a personal attack.... and losing. Harry is flailing away at everybody these days. I wonder what's wrong with him? |
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In article , says...
On 8/6/2012 7:46 PM, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:07:16 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 6:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:40:57 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:18:17 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. They do seem to have more trouble navigating a complex ballot, finding their polling place and having a good enough job to have an ID with a picture on it. You talking about the folks who've experience 200 years of institutionalized racism who are easily identified as different from white? Why is everything racial with you and Harry. Who is the racist here? Are you really saying this lack of cognitive skill is racially based? It just seems to be Democrats. In Palm Beach County the butterfly ballot baffled old white people. The butterfly ballot baffled a lot of people, from voters to vote counters, and it was easy to see why. Those being disenfranchised by white Republicans tend to be older, poorer, and minorities. The butterfly ballot was much ado about nothing. They gave it to a class of second graders and they figured it out with no problems. (using fictional candidates) It is even questionable that anyone was actually confused. 3200 people punched Buchanan, about a third of the number of people who voted for him in the primary, with far fewer people voting in the primary and a single page ballot. There was absolutely zero difference for the counter. That 3505 card reader just read it like any other punch card and when they held it up to manually count it, they were just looking at the hole. The people are allegedly being disenfranchised by complicated procedures. It would be less intelligent people baffled by that wouldn't it? BTW that evil plot to steal Gore votes was perpetrated by a Democratically run election board. (Palm Beach is a very "blue" county) Were they scheming or just dumb? They were trying to cheat any way they could. I am sure Ohio will be ripe with cheating this time around.. Look for more vote buying and Mickey Mouse living on every block.. Once again, insane **** from your head. I'm betting you have absolutely NO evidence of any of that, correct? |
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says... In article , says... "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh? Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes. The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood. I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists. Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: *People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,* he told LiveScience. Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added. Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments. "Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies." --------------------------------------------------------- John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein who had an IQ of 160. Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128. Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137 George W. Bush has an IQ of 125 Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141. A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Who would have thought I was in Bill Clintons class of smart? Once again, as Eisboch was talking about, an IQ doesn't necessarily make one "smart". |
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says... On 8/7/2012 6:28 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:34:17 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:55:20 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/6/12 7:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:16:48 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth. It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies you as a person. Who would have thought I was in Bill Clintons class of smart? Bill Clinton may have had a high IQ but he was pretty stupid. Did he really think any of his lies would hold? For that matter how smart are you if you are sticking your pecker in girls around the office? Still obsessed with Bill's sex life, eh? The issue was how smart he was supposed to be. That was dumb. It will also be his legacy Harry knows better than to discuss an issue and lose. He persists in changing it to a personal attack.... and losing. Harry is flailing away at everybody these days. I wonder what's wrong with him? Being hooked up to that machine nightly must be a pain! |
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