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Meyer[_2_] July 26th 12 01:32 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
On 7/26/2012 7:17 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:10:20 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.


I thought iBoater was a lawyer?


I never even believed Plume was a lawyer

He did a great job of pretending to be a woman, though.

iBoaterer[_2_] July 26th 12 01:36 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
In article , says...

On 7/25/2012 6:10 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.


I thought iBoater was a lawyer?


No, not that smart, just good at math...


At least I'm good enough at things to keep myself employed.

iBoaterer[_2_] July 26th 12 01:37 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.


That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.


I thought iBoater was a lawyer?


What on earth made you think that? I hope you're not getting
delusionally insane like Scotty!

iBoaterer[_2_] July 26th 12 01:38 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:27:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:20:24 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:15:49 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

You said that a person's statements are hearsay. Isn't Zimmerman a
person?

I never said that, either. I *did* say that the article you referenced was full of hearsay and conjecture, both of which are true.

Clue: Look up "hearsay". Only some of a person's statements are hearsay.

Hearsay is repeating something you heard a 3d party say.

Like Martin's girlfriend says she heard Martin say "yada yada"


Oh, so any of the so called "witnesses" that said they heard Zimmerman
screaming, heard thuds, etc. is all hearsay? Thanks!


If they actually saw it, that is direct testimony.


Of course, notice I said the witnesses that said the HEARD Zimmerman
screaming.....

iBoaterer[_2_] July 26th 12 01:38 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:26:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.


Really? Are you serious that no evidence can be brought in after the
trial has begun? Really??


It is unusual


Bull****!

Meyer[_2_] July 26th 12 01:47 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
On 7/26/2012 8:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:26:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.

Really? Are you serious that no evidence can be brought in after the
trial has begun? Really??


It is unusual


Bull****!

cite ;-)

X ` Man July 26th 12 01:57 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
On 7/26/12 8:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:26:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.

Really? Are you serious that no evidence can be brought in after the
trial has begun? Really??


It is unusual


Bull****!


Typically, in a criminal trial, all the hard evidence and all the
witness examinations are made available by both sides to the other side
so that the lawyers can prepare their questions and bring in rebuttal
witnesses. While it is possible to introduce evidence previously unknown
at a trial, it is not easy to do so because the defense will object and
the judge probably will grant the objection.

Of course, while questioning witnesses on the stand, new information
might be forthcoming. If it conflicts with previous sworn statements of
a witness, that information can be challenged.

If you think otherwise, iLoogy, you've watched too much courtroom drama
on TV.



JustWait[_2_] July 26th 12 02:17 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
On 7/26/2012 7:17 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:10:20 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.


I thought iBoater was a lawyer?


I never even believed Plume was a lawyer


Engineer... or draftsman maybe..

X ` Man[_3_] July 26th 12 02:20 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
On 7/26/12 9:17 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/26/2012 7:17 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:10:20 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public
information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.

I thought iBoater was a lawyer?


I never even believed Plume was a lawyer


Engineer... or draftsman maybe..


Whatever it was, it was higher up on the occupational ladder than you
ever got.

iBoaterer[_2_] July 26th 12 02:40 PM

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
 
In article m,
says...

On 7/26/2012 8:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:26:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:17:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has.


We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and
when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If
the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey
probably gets disbarred.

But what you don't understand is that lots of evidence isn't
"discovered" until trial.

That is not true at all, you have been watching too much TV.

The prosecution will not start a trial thinking they will get
something in direct testimony that they don't already have.
For the most part, they will shoot their whole wad at the grand jury.

In this case, they will need everything they can come up with to
survive the immunity hearing where this whole witch hunt may end.

Really? Are you serious that no evidence can be brought in after the
trial has begun? Really??

It is unusual


Bull****!

cite ;-)


Sure thing!

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/journals/jihr/v8/n1/4/

http://www.benchmarkinstitute.org/t_...ntroducing.htm

http://www.houston-opinions.com/law-...w-trial-newly-
discovered-evidence.html


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