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Tim July 20th 12 11:20 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....

Tim July 21st 12 03:08 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Friday, July 20, 2012 5:20:57 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


I will say that on the bright side of this change over, is that it DID clear out the SPAM!

*e#c July 21st 12 04:58 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Jul 20, 10:08*pm, Tim wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 5:20:57 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


I will say that on the bright side of this change over, is that it DID clear out the SPAM!


I dont notice anything different here...... My String Beans are doing
fine, though.......

John H.[_5_] July 22nd 12 05:54 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


This one works well, and the price isn't bad. There are some free ones out there, I hear.

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

X ` Man July 22nd 12 07:12 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/22/12 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


This one works well, and the price isn't bad. There are some free ones out there, I hear.

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php


Agent, for Windows only, is an incredibly complex "reader" to use for
newsgroups. Mozilla Thunderbird is easy, allows multiple accounts, is
available for multiple platforms, and is free and has lots of online
support and add-ons.

John H[_2_] July 22nd 12 08:15 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.

X ` Man[_3_] July 22nd 12 08:24 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.

Wayne B July 23rd 12 12:03 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.


======

That has been my experience also.


Tim July 23rd 12 04:25 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Jul 22, 6:03*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT), John H

wrote:
although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.


======

That has been my experience also.


I've got Forte Agent 3.0 loaded on my machine somewhere. I've heard
it can be your best friend or your worse nightmare.

Eh, It can be figured out....

JustWait[_2_] July 23rd 12 12:56 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/22/2012 11:25 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 22, 6:03 pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT), John H

wrote:
although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.


======

That has been my experience also.


I've got Forte Agent 3.0 loaded on my machine somewhere. I've heard
it can be your best friend or your worse nightmare.

Eh, It can be figured out....


I think Thunderbird is easier, more for everyday folks than Agent which
in my opinion is for more experienced readers with more complex needs.
Thunderbird is great for a couple groups and an email or two.

iBoaterer[_2_] July 23rd 12 01:00 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.


Hey, at least he can run Agent, the one you find too complex!

X ` Man[_3_] July 23rd 12 01:26 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/23/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....

And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.


Hey, at least he can run Agent, the one you find too complex!


I never said or implied I couldn't run agent. I just find it too complex
for the simple task of reading a couple of usenet groups with very few
postings. It's very very dated software, even though it is out in a
newer version.

It's interesting how you try to bite the ankles of just about every
poster here. Asshole. Get a life.


Meyer[_2_] July 23rd 12 01:30 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/23/2012 8:26 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/23/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a
news reader....

And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex,
it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.


Hey, at least he can run Agent, the one you find too complex!


I never said or implied I couldn't run agent. I just find it too complex
for the simple task of reading a couple of usenet groups with very few
postings. It's very very dated software, even though it is out in a
newer version.

It's interesting how you try to bite the ankles of just about every
poster here. Asshole. Get a life.


POT_KETTLE_BLACK

X ` Man[_3_] July 23rd 12 05:59 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/23/12 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:26:17 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....

And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.

Hey, at least he can run Agent, the one you find too complex!


I never said or implied I couldn't run agent. I just find it too complex
for the simple task of reading a couple of usenet groups with very few
postings. It's very very dated software, even though it is out in a
newer version.


Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?



I don't require software to run from a thumb drive, and when I sell off
my used apple computers to buy new ones, I wipe the drives clean with a
scrubbing program that allegedly provides a wipe sufficient for some
government agencies or other. In any event, good enough. I don't
download binaries. Therefore, my comment stands...Agent is too complex
for the simple task of reading and posting to the couple of usenet
groups I still follow.

Why would the software change? To add ease of use?

X ` Man July 23rd 12 08:02 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/23/12 2:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:59:41 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 12:52 PM,
wrote:



Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?



I don't require software to run from a thumb drive, and when I sell off
my used apple computers to buy new ones, I wipe the drives clean with a
scrubbing program that allegedly provides a wipe sufficient for some
government agencies or other. In any event, good enough. I don't
download binaries. Therefore, my comment stands...Agent is too complex
for the simple task of reading and posting to the couple of usenet
groups I still follow.

Why would the software change? To add ease of use?


If you thought Agent was hard to use, you just did not customize it
for your use.
I have 2 versions running. One is set up for text groups and one for
binary groups. The top line buttons do different things.

As for the portability, I have more than one machine. If I want to
move from this desk top to my laptop, I sync to a thumb drive, plug
the thumb drive in my laptop and go. All of my newsgroup pointers and
saved posts move with it. When I get home, I just sync the thumb to my
hard drive and it is back here. I can also plug that thumb drive into
the hotel lobby machine (or any other machine) and run from there if I
want to. Then when I leave, everything leaves with me.
Nothing gets written on their hard drive, registry or otherwise.


I didn't say it was hard to use. I said it was too complex for the
simple tasks I need a usenet/email client to handle.

I have three "computers" I currently use: a desktop, an iPad and an
iPhone and I have an 8 terabyte server. All my email is synched
automatically for me, as are my calenders, address books, business
files, work product, et cetera.

I have lots of hard drive space and have no problems having whatever I
want written to hard drive...written to hard drives without much
intervention on my part. Even the web pages I design, edit and maintain
for clients back up automatically every night to my server.

So, if what you do works for you, fine. I don't like Agent. Never have,
and I've looked it over every year for more than a decade. I'm amazed it
is still around, actually. Hardly anyone uses it.

[email protected] July 23rd 12 08:15 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Friday, July 20, 2012 7:20:57 PM UTC-3, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


Just changed on me today.

Tim July 23rd 12 11:38 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Jul 23, 2:15*pm, wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 7:20:57 PM UTC-3, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


Just changed on me today.


Yep. But Don, if you go up to the upper right to the gear wheel, you
can switch it back to the older version of Groups. At least for a
while.

North Star July 24th 12 12:11 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Jul 23, 7:38*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jul 23, 2:15*pm, wrote:

On Friday, July 20, 2012 7:20:57 PM UTC-3, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....


Just changed on me today.


Yep. But Don, if you go up to the upper right to the gear wheel, you
can switch it back to the older version of Groups. At least for a
while.


Looks like they want me to register in the new groups.
Maybe I'll do as you suggest for the near future.

BAR[_2_] July 24th 12 12:52 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:26:17 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....

And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.

Hey, at least he can run Agent, the one you find too complex!


I never said or implied I couldn't run agent. I just find it too complex
for the simple task of reading a couple of usenet groups with very few
postings. It's very very dated software, even though it is out in a
newer version.


Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?


Crap, now Harry is going to duplicate what you do!

X ` Man[_3_] July 24th 12 12:55 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/23/12 7:52 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:26:17 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 8:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/22/12 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 6:20:57 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
And it totally stinks. Looks like I'm finally going to need a news reader....

And, BTW, although some folks find Agent to be incredibly complex, it's really pretty simple to use.

Besides, I'm only a phone call away.



That should be funny: Herring the computer moron giving computer
software advice.

Hey, at least he can run Agent, the one you find too complex!


I never said or implied I couldn't run agent. I just find it too complex
for the simple task of reading a couple of usenet groups with very few
postings. It's very very dated software, even though it is out in a
newer version.


Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?


Crap, now Harry is going to duplicate what you do!



Fall on your head too many times while guarding marine latrines?

John H.[_5_] July 24th 12 09:38 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:00:27 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:59:41 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 12:52 PM,
wrote:



Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?



I don't require software to run from a thumb drive, and when I sell off
my used apple computers to buy new ones, I wipe the drives clean with a
scrubbing program that allegedly provides a wipe sufficient for some
government agencies or other. In any event, good enough. I don't
download binaries. Therefore, my comment stands...Agent is too complex
for the simple task of reading and posting to the couple of usenet
groups I still follow.

Why would the software change? To add ease of use?


If you thought Agent was hard to use, you just did not customize it
for your use.
I have 2 versions running. One is set up for text groups and one for
binary groups. The top line buttons do different things.

As for the portability, I have more than one machine. If I want to
move from this desk top to my laptop, I sync to a thumb drive, plug
the thumb drive in my laptop and go. All of my newsgroup pointers and
saved posts move with it. When I get home, I just sync the thumb to my
hard drive and it is back here. I can also plug that thumb drive into
the hotel lobby machine (or any other machine) and run from there if I
want to. Then when I leave, everything leaves with me.
Nothing gets written on their hard drive, registry or otherwise.


Nothing very complex about it, that's for damn sure.

X ` Man[_3_] July 25th 12 01:56 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/24/12 8:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:38:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:00:27 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:59:41 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 12:52 PM,
wrote:



Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?



I don't require software to run from a thumb drive, and when I sell off
my used apple computers to buy new ones, I wipe the drives clean with a
scrubbing program that allegedly provides a wipe sufficient for some
government agencies or other. In any event, good enough. I don't
download binaries. Therefore, my comment stands...Agent is too complex
for the simple task of reading and posting to the couple of usenet
groups I still follow.

Why would the software change? To add ease of use?

If you thought Agent was hard to use, you just did not customize it
for your use.
I have 2 versions running. One is set up for text groups and one for
binary groups. The top line buttons do different things.

As for the portability, I have more than one machine. If I want to
move from this desk top to my laptop, I sync to a thumb drive, plug
the thumb drive in my laptop and go. All of my newsgroup pointers and
saved posts move with it. When I get home, I just sync the thumb to my
hard drive and it is back here. I can also plug that thumb drive into
the hotel lobby machine (or any other machine) and run from there if I
want to. Then when I leave, everything leaves with me.
Nothing gets written on their hard drive, registry or otherwise.


Nothing very complex about it, that's for damn sure.


Harry is not a computer user, he uses Apple appliances.



Your ignorance must give you a lot of bliss.
I would guess my iPad has a more powerful CPU than whatever old P.O.S.
windoze computer you are using.

Richard Casady July 25th 12 03:06 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.


I once owned a IHC rifle.

Casady

JustWait[_2_] July 25th 12 03:10 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/24/2012 10:06 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.


I once owned a IHC rifle.

Casady


My bud has an Electrolux car.

Tim July 25th 12 03:13 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Jul 24, 9:06*pm, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.


I once owned a IHC rifle.

Casady


m1 carbine or m1 Garand?

My carbine is a mix of Saginaw Steering Gear (GM) and Underwood
Typewriter parts

Tim July 25th 12 03:15 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On Jul 24, 9:10*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/24/2012 10:06 PM, Richard Casady wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.


I once owned a IHC rifle.


Casady


My bud has an Electrolux car.


"Electrolux" car???


JustWait[_2_] July 25th 12 03:34 AM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/24/2012 10:15 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 24, 9:10 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/24/2012 10:06 PM, Richard Casady wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.


I once owned a IHC rifle.


Casady


My bud has an Electrolux car.


"Electrolux" car???


Yup, you plug it into your house outlet. Sold in Europe, runs on 24 volt
with two vacuum machine motors. He also has an electric MG Midget...
Both factory production vehicles, sold in Europe.

iBoaterer[_2_] July 25th 12 01:31 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:38:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:00:27 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:59:41 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/23/12 12:52 PM,
wrote:



Once you get Agent configured for your use it is very simple to
operate. The other good thing is the version I use does not really get
"installed" so it can run from a thumb drive on any machine and when
you pull the drive out it is gone without a trace. Everything stays on
the thumb drive. That is handy if you use more than one machine.

Agent is really aimed at binary users tho.

I am not sure what you mean by "dated". Usenet itself is dated and
hasn't changed in a decade or two. Why would the software have to
change?



I don't require software to run from a thumb drive, and when I sell off
my used apple computers to buy new ones, I wipe the drives clean with a
scrubbing program that allegedly provides a wipe sufficient for some
government agencies or other. In any event, good enough. I don't
download binaries. Therefore, my comment stands...Agent is too complex
for the simple task of reading and posting to the couple of usenet
groups I still follow.

Why would the software change? To add ease of use?

If you thought Agent was hard to use, you just did not customize it
for your use.
I have 2 versions running. One is set up for text groups and one for
binary groups. The top line buttons do different things.

As for the portability, I have more than one machine. If I want to
move from this desk top to my laptop, I sync to a thumb drive, plug
the thumb drive in my laptop and go. All of my newsgroup pointers and
saved posts move with it. When I get home, I just sync the thumb to my
hard drive and it is back here. I can also plug that thumb drive into
the hotel lobby machine (or any other machine) and run from there if I
want to. Then when I leave, everything leaves with me.
Nothing gets written on their hard drive, registry or otherwise.


Nothing very complex about it, that's for damn sure.


Harry is not a computer user, he uses Apple appliances.


True!

iBoaterer[_2_] July 25th 12 01:33 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
In article , says...

On 7/24/2012 10:06 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.


I once owned a IHC rifle.

Casady


My bud has an Electrolux car.


The one that you claimed was the technological equivalent of a Tesla?!

X ` Man[_3_] July 25th 12 01:41 PM

The new Google Groups went into effect today...
 
On 7/25/12 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/24/2012 10:06 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

When I was growing up my grand-parents had an "International
Harvester" refrigerator.

I once owned a IHC rifle.

Casady


My bud has an Electrolux car.


The one that you claimed was the technological equivalent of a Tesla?!



PsychoScotty has sex with his bud's Electrolux vacuum.


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