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Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article ,
says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/12 12:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. It doesn't matter who buys it so long as someone does and in sufficient quantities to move the technology forward. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 12:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. The fact is, the money was passed to those who could effect elections with donations or influence, not those who might really get electric to the middle class... Just look at the math, it doesn't lie. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. t How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it only for the uber rich? It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the guinea pigs for new technology. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/12 1:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/14/2012 12:28 PM, Califbill wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. The fact is, the money was passed to those who could effect elections with donations or influence, not those who might really get electric to the middle class... Just look at the math, it doesn't lie. The fact is, you are as full of **** on this issue as you are on everything else political and, even worse, you're psychotic. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 1:23 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/14/12 1:12 PM, JustWait wrote: On 7/14/2012 12:28 PM, Califbill wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. The fact is, the money was passed to those who could effect elections with donations or influence, not those who might really get electric to the middle class... Just look at the math, it doesn't lie. The fact is, you are as full of **** on this issue as you are on everything else political and, even worse, you're psychotic. Who let the air out of Harry Krause? Two hundred pounds and shrinking. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article , says...
On 7/14/2012 12:28 PM, Califbill wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. The fact is, the money was passed to those who could effect elections with donations or influence, not those who might really get electric to the middle class... Just look at the math, it doesn't lie. The math sure doesn't lie, just look at what Romney's super pacs are contributing! |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article om,
says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Yeah, sure! |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article om,
says... On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. t How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it only for the uber rich? It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the guinea pigs for new technology. It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how technology R&D works. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. ------------------------------------------------- No fossil fuel? Where is most of the electricity generate from? |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. ------------------------------------ New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920. Got 30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric car? |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On Jul 14, 11:28*am, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" *wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? *If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. *Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. The ZAP reminds me of a Cushman ice cream trike with a car body on it. http://s1.aecdn.com/images/news/zap-...ed-45891_1.jpg |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
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Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article om,
says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 2:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Yeah, sure! Wanna bet 500 bucks? |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 2:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. ------------------------------------ New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920. Got 30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric car? Yup, I have a friend with an electrolux, and an MB midget... Both electric. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote:
In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything? What are you righties so scared of? |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article ,
says... In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Should have been 75%. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 2:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. t How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it only for the uber rich? It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the guinea pigs for new technology. It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how technology R&D works. I asked how much they cost. You no understand English? I'll ask again; How much pricy are you talking about? |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On Jul 14, 5:07*pm, BAR wrote:
In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. I'd say probably more than that. maybe 65+ % |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On Jul 14, 5:17*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , says... In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Should have been 75%. OK, I said 65+... looks like i was a bit 'conservative' in my guestimation. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 14, 5:17 pm, BAR wrote: In article , says... already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Should have been 75%. OK, I said 65+... looks like i was a bit 'conservative' in my guestimation. --------------------------------- Natural gas, coal and petroleum are all fossil fuels and produce the bulk of the electricity used in the USA. Nuclear kicks in another 19 percent. Solar, wind, geothermal sources produce very little by comparison. There's no magic or anything particularly "green" about battery powered cars. The energy had to come from somewhere. http://mapawatt.com/wp-content/uploa...table_2010.gif |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
"X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote: 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything? What are you righties so scared of? ---------------------------------------------- BAR was in error and corrected himself. Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels. 19 percent from nuclear reactors. 10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article ,
says... On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php "Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost about $70,000." Yeah this is a car for the masses. Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures- Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/12 10:12 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote: 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything? What are you righties so scared of? ---------------------------------------------- BAR was in error and corrected himself. Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels. 19 percent from nuclear reactors. 10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc. Well, then, no need to do anything... :) |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 11:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. I never heard the right wing say say it won't work and but I have heard don't spend taxpayers money trying to pick winners and losers, let the free market figure it out. Quote from article, "Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before state and federal incentives." And why do I want to help someone with my tax money so they can buy a cat that costs $75,000. I doubt very few electric vehicles don't use fossil fuel, the electric grid of this country uses a lot of coal and natural gas. Did you think all the Tesla owners had solar collectors. Have you looked at the havoc caused by mining of chemicals used to make the batteries for electric cars? I have an electric gokart that I built about 3 years ago. Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKjbXltAew&feature=plcp I have since bought bigger better batteries and put on a new motor. It will now go about 40 MPH. Mikek |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 8:04 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 14, 5:17 pm, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Should have been 75%. OK, I said 65+... looks like i was a bit 'conservative' in my guestimation. Well that doesn't surprise me! :-) Mikek |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/14/2012 10:35 PM, BAR wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures- Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all Are you kidding? A $100,000.00 paperweight. Plug it in plug it in. But where? In all my travels, I've seen but one electric car chargeing station. If the Navy can launch ships that never need refueling. Why can't the union wizards at Government Motors do the same with their cars? |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
On 7/15/2012 7:44 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/14/12 10:12 PM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote: 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything? What are you righties so scared of? ---------------------------------------------- BAR was in error and corrected himself. Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels. 19 percent from nuclear reactors. 10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc. Well, then, no need to do anything... :) OK then. Stop grousing about it. Concentrate on what ails you. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article m,
says... On 7/14/2012 2:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. t How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it only for the uber rich? It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the guinea pigs for new technology. It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how technology R&D works. I asked how much they cost. You no understand English? I'll ask again; How much pricy are you talking about? Again, moot point. But, IF you were to read the article, the cost is as plain as day for those who can grasp what they read. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article ,
says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. ------------------------------------ New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920. Got 30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric car? Yes, new technology. Compare the Tesla to those built in 1920 and get back with me. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article , says...
On 7/14/2012 2:50 PM, Califbill wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php ----------------------------------------------------------------- The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income. Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive. ------------------------------------ New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920. Got 30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric car? Yup, I have a friend with an electrolux, and an MB midget... Both electric. Nope. You idiot, do you realize how far the technology has come? Compare the new Tesla technology with the Electrolux. If you know how to research one tiny little bit, you'll soon see that yes, the Tesla IS new technology. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article ,
says... In article om, says... On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php How much is it? I want one. But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also, it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing. Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already. Where does the electricity come from? 45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels. Yes, but the point you hard core righties fail to understand is that the equivalent fuel mileage is around 100 miles per gallon. If we get off of our asses and build more non fossil fuel electric infrastructure that number will go down. But stupid people are just too afraid of getting off of fossil fuel. |
Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
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Nope, the right wing says this won't work.
In article ,
says... On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent- fast-3706414.php "Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost about $70,000." Yeah this is a car for the masses. Who said it was a car for the masses right now? |
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