On 7/14/2012 2:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing
money at
a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car
market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars.
Not one
where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.

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New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920.
Got 30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric
car?


Yup, I have a friend with an electrolux, and an MB midget... Both electric.

On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote:
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On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

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How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.

Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.



Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything?

What are you righties so scared of?

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In article om,
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On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
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On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php


How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.

Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.

Should have been 75%.

On 7/14/2012 2:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
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On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-


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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing
money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up
the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap
around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a
$250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.
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How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it
only for the uber rich?

It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the
guinea pigs for new technology.

It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I
guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how
technology R&D works.

I asked how much they cost. You no understand English?
I'll ask again; How much pricy are you talking about?

On Jul 14, 5:07*pm, BAR wrote:
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On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php

How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.

Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.

I'd say probably more than that. maybe 65+ %

On Jul 14, 5:17*pm, BAR wrote:
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In article om,
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On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php

How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.

Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.

Should have been 75%.

OK, I said 65+... looks like i was a bit 'conservative' in my
guestimation.

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On Jul 14, 5:17 pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,

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already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil
fuels.

Should have been 75%.

OK, I said 65+... looks like i was a bit 'conservative' in my
guestimation.

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Natural gas, coal and petroleum are all fossil fuels and produce the
bulk of the electricity used
in the USA. Nuclear kicks in another 19 percent. Solar, wind,
geothermal sources produce
very little by comparison. There's no magic or anything particularly
"green" about battery
powered cars. The energy had to come from somewhere.

http://mapawatt.com/wp-content/uploa...table_2010.gif

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On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote:

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.



Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything?

What are you righties so scared of?
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BAR was in error and corrected himself.

Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels.
19 percent from nuclear reactors.
10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


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"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

On 7/14/12 10:12 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
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On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote:

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.



Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything?

What are you righties so scared of?
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BAR was in error and corrected himself.

Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels.
19 percent from nuclear reactors.
10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc.







Well, then, no need to do anything...