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Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible
says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... |
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On 7/13/2012 12:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... You've gotta stop reading this crap. You'll have nightmares. |
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... Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... -------------------------------------------------- Nope, he was union member, Democrat. |
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On 7/13/12 8:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message ... Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... -------------------------------------------------- Nope, he was union member, Democrat. Sure he was, dumfuch bill. |
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On Jul 13, 11:59*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. |
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On 7/13/12 9:17 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? |
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On Jul 13, 8:25*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-
Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. |
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On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... |
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On 7/13/2012 9:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 8:25 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere- Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. LOL! Got that right... Tell him Tim... |
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On Jul 13, 9:18*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... Well Scott. Because I'm a Google Group user, I can't filter anyone, but I can do a good job of 'ignoring'. I'm thinking that might be a good option. After all, some articles don't really deserve any kind of a reply. |
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On 7/13/2012 10:28 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 9:18 pm, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... Well Scott. Because I'm a Google Group user, I can't filter anyone, but I can do a good job of 'ignoring'. I'm thinking that might be a good option. After all, some articles don't really deserve any kind of a reply. I know Tim.. Just sayin'... |
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On 7/13/2012 10:29 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/13/2012 10:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 9:18 pm, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... Well Scott. Because I'm a Google Group user, I can't filter anyone, but I can do a good job of 'ignoring'. I'm thinking that might be a good option. After all, some articles don't really deserve any kind of a reply. I know Tim.. Just sayin'... Wow, just read the article. A "neighbor" said they were bible thumpers, and of course in true progressive fashion, harry ran with it because it allowed him to spread more hate.... Sick puppy that harry krause... |
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On Jul 13, 9:41*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 7/13/2012 10:29 PM, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 10:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 9:18 pm, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... Well Scott. Because I'm a Google Group user, I can't filter anyone, but *I can do a good job of 'ignoring'. *I'm thinking *that might be a good option. After all, some articles don't really deserve any kind of a reply. I know Tim.. Just sayin'... Wow, just read the article. A "neighbor" said they were bible thumpers, and of course in true progressive fashion, harry ran with it because it allowed him to spread more hate.... Sick puppy that harry krause... Well, you're one seep ahead of me, Scott. i didn't bother to open the link. I figgured it was probably worthless. |
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On 7/13/12 9:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 8:25 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere- Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. Well, that doesn't answer the question, does it? |
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On 7/13/2012 10:04 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: You don't go boating often, do you? The reason is, the boat he doesn't have now is much larger and harder to single hand than the boat he didn't have before. Make sense? |
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On 7/13/2012 10:41 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/13/2012 10:29 PM, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 10:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 9:18 pm, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... Well Scott. Because I'm a Google Group user, I can't filter anyone, but I can do a good job of 'ignoring'. I'm thinking that might be a good option. After all, some articles don't really deserve any kind of a reply. I know Tim.. Just sayin'... Wow, just read the article. A "neighbor" said they were bible thumpers, and of course in true progressive fashion, harry ran with it because it allowed him to spread more hate.... Sick puppy that harry krause... When you see the words Bible thumper you know immediately, the writer is bigoted, morally corrupt, unintelligent, and has nothing worthwhile to say. Why would any thinking person read further? Harry cuts and pastes this crap because he is unable to think for himself; and you've seen what a lousy writer he is. |
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On 7/13/12 9:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 8:25 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere- Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. Oh, an aside. I don't "condemn" what you call "scripture," which is, after all, nothing more than what religious believers of any faith think is "sacred," or even central to their faith. To the extent that "scripture" instructs mankind to "do good," "help others," "judge not," et cetera, it is a positive influence. When "scripture" is used to justify hate, exclusion, selfishness, wrath, et cetera, it is a negative influence. Unfortunately, there's plenty in "scripture" that can be interpreted or misinterpreted hundreds of different ways, some good, some not so good, and too often the "not so good" is used as a rationale for aberrant, anti-social behavior. There's no need to cite examples...I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. And there's no shortage of bible believers who use the bad as their credo. And who is a bible believer? An accurate answer would be "anyone who says he or she is." |
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On 7/14/2012 8:47 AM, X ` Man wrote:
And who is a bible believer? An accurate answer would be "anyone who says he or she is." Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Harry asks the strange question And then he answers himself. It would be great if you carried on your conversations with yourself via email instead of polluting the cyberworld. SNERK! |
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On 7/13/2012 10:29 PM, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 10:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 9:18 pm, JustWait wrote: On 7/13/2012 9:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 11:59 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ?the Bible says? By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. ?I?ve never seen anything like this personally,? Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. ?If the allegations prove to be true, it?s a very severe case.? A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was ?doing what the Bible says? by punishing the girl for not doing chores the ?right way,? according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. An, Tim. Most here have him plonked so he turns to mock you because he is a ****ing asshole and needs to hurt somebody to feel better about his own miserable lot in life... Well Scott. Because I'm a Google Group user, I can't filter anyone, but I can do a good job of 'ignoring'. I'm thinking that might be a good option. After all, some articles don't really deserve any kind of a reply. I know Tim.. Just sayin'... Wow, just read the article. A "neighbor" said they were bible thumpers, and of course in true progressive fashion, harry ran with it because it allowed him to spread more hate.... Sick puppy that harry krause... More stupid insane bigotry from Scotty. |
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m... On 7/13/12 8:50 PM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... Georgia home-schooled girl punished with shock collar because ‘the Bible says’ By David Edwards Friday, July 13, 2012 12:41 EDT Georgia teen forced to wear shock collar A Georgia couple was arrested this week on charges of child cruelty and false imprisonment after their 15-year-old daughter told authorities that she was forced to live in a chicken coop and wear a remote-controlled shock collar. The 15-year-old, who was *home schooled*, reportedly said that her adopted parents, Samuel and Diana Franklin, punished her for not finishing school work by spending up to six days at a time in the chicken coop behind their house in Butler over the past two years. Chicken coops are known to have high levels of ammonia (PDF) which can be dangerous to both humans and animals. Authorities said that the girl was also forced to do manual labor and spend time in a 4-foot-wide outhouse. “I’ve never seen anything like this personally,” Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent Wayne Smith explained. “If the allegations prove to be true, it’s a very severe case.” A shock collar was found at the home when the parents were taken into custody on Tuesday. The girl said that a device similar to one that remotely locks and unlocks cars was used to activate the collar and punish her with jolts of electricity. Authorities said the device appeared to match the description provided by the girl. The collar and a leather belt were being examined at a crime lab for DNA evidence. Diana Franklin told one neighbor that she was “doing what the Bible says” by punishing the girl for not doing chores the “right way,” according to KLTV. Diana Franklin was charged with four counts of false imprisonment and 12 counts of cruelty to children. Samuel Franklin also faces charges of 8 counts of false imprisonment and 8 counts of cruelty to children. Both parents were released on bond on Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/dyc33ej Ahh, bible believers... -------------------------------------------------- Nope, he was union member, Democrat. Sure he was, dumfuch bill. -------------------------------------- Glad you agree. |
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On Jul 14, 7:47*am, X ` Man wrote:
I don't "condemn" what you call "scripture," which is, after all, nothing more than what religious believers of any faith think is "sacred," or even central to their faith. To the extent that "scripture" instructs mankind to "do good," "help others," "judge not," et cetera, it is a positive influence. When "scripture" is used to justify hate, exclusion, selfishness, wrath, et cetera, it is a negative influence. Unfortunately, there's plenty in "scripture" that can be interpreted or misinterpreted hundreds of different ways, some good, some not so good, and too often the "not so good" is used as a rationale for aberrant, anti-social behavior. I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, so evidently you're a bible believer too. And who is a bible believer? An accurate answer would be "anyone who says he or she is." |
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On 7/14/2012 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:47 am, X ` Man wrote: I don't "condemn" what you call "scripture," which is, after all, nothing more than what religious believers of any faith think is "sacred," or even central to their faith. To the extent that "scripture" instructs mankind to "do good," "help others," "judge not," et cetera, it is a positive influence. When "scripture" is used to justify hate, exclusion, selfishness, wrath, et cetera, it is a negative influence. Unfortunately, there's plenty in "scripture" that can be interpreted or misinterpreted hundreds of different ways, some good, some not so good, and too often the "not so good" is used as a rationale for aberrant, anti-social behavior. I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, so evidently you're a bible believer too. And who is a bible believer? An accurate answer would be "anyone who says he or she is." Too funny... |
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On 7/14/12 6:13 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/14/2012 3:59 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 14, 7:47 am, X ` Man wrote: I don't "condemn" what you call "scripture," which is, after all, nothing more than what religious believers of any faith think is "sacred," or even central to their faith. To the extent that "scripture" instructs mankind to "do good," "help others," "judge not," et cetera, it is a positive influence. When "scripture" is used to justify hate, exclusion, selfishness, wrath, et cetera, it is a negative influence. Unfortunately, there's plenty in "scripture" that can be interpreted or misinterpreted hundreds of different ways, some good, some not so good, and too often the "not so good" is used as a rationale for aberrant, anti-social behavior. I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, so evidently you're a bible believer too. And who is a bible believer? An accurate answer would be "anyone who says he or she is." Too funny... If only you were really skilled in something, little ****...you've got the idiot part down pat...you could evolve into an idiot savant. But there is just nothing you do well. |
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On 7/13/2012 10:04 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: You don't go boating often, do you? The reason is, the boat he doesn't have now is much larger and harder to single hand than the boat he didn't have before. Make sense? It makes perfect sense. There is a lot you can't do if you don't own a boat! |
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On 7/13/12 9:36 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 8:25 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere- Those aren't bible believers, Harry. Please don't bunch me and millions more into that same group. It really doesn't look good upon you. Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. Oh, an aside. I don't "condemn" what you call "scripture," which is, after all, nothing more than what religious believers of any faith think is "sacred," or even central to their faith. To the extent that "scripture" instructs mankind to "do good," "help others," "judge not," et cetera, it is a positive influence. When "scripture" is used to justify hate, exclusion, selfishness, wrath, et cetera, it is a negative influence. Unfortunately, there's plenty in "scripture" that can be interpreted or misinterpreted hundreds of different ways, some good, some not so good, and too often the "not so good" is used as a rationale for aberrant, anti-social behavior. There's no need to cite examples...I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. And there's no shortage of bible believers who use the bad as their credo. And who is a bible believer? An accurate answer would be "anyone who says he or she is." The same can be said about politics but you don't care. |
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On 7/13/2012 6:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 13, 8:25 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere- Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. http://www.logicalfallacies.info/pre...true-scotsman/ |
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On 7/15/12 1:24 PM, thumper wrote:
On 7/13/2012 6:36 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 13, 8:25 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere- Who decides who is or who is not a "bible believer"? Certainly not them, and for someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, but picks and chooses what they want to condemn the scripture, I truly doubt you're really qualified either. http://www.logicalfallacies.info/pre...true-scotsman/ I've read "the bible" more than a few times. I think some of it reflects an attempt to write down some of contemporaneous history and moral coding, as it were. But to "believe" in the bible as something more than words written down by man, edited by man, and put into "accepted" volumes by man, well, *that* crosses the line into religious superstition. |
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On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote:
I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. |
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On 7/15/12 2:12 PM, thumper wrote:
On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote: I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. All sorts of horrific behavior has been "justified" by bible readings. |
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On Jul 15, 2:06*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 7/15/12 2:12 PM, thumper wrote: On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote: I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, *anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. *It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. All sorts of horrific behavior has been "justified" by bible readings. justified? Well, I suppose it depends on how you want to look at it, eh? |
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On 7/15/12 4:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 15, 2:06 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/15/12 2:12 PM, thumper wrote: On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote: I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. All sorts of horrific behavior has been "justified" by bible readings. justified? Well, I suppose it depends on how you want to look at it, eh? Many of those who do "evil" claim they find their justification in the bible. Of course, they think they are doing what the bible tells them to do. |
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On Jul 15, 3:58*pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/15/12 4:12 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 15, 2:06 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/15/12 2:12 PM, thumper wrote: On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote: I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, *anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. *It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. All sorts of horrific behavior has been "justified" by bible readings. * justified? *Well, I suppose it depends on how you want to look at it, eh? Many of those who do "evil" claim they find their justification in the bible. Of course, they think they are doing what the bible tells them to do. So, they get blended in with those who do righteously because the too are 'bible believers? And naturally, not many look at the good that Christians would do especially those who would wish to make some kind of dis accreditation. After all, who wants to read something boring like that! , But rather those who want to show a dim view Christians would rather concentrate on the bad. ie. Those who 'call' themselves "Christians" and those who would pervert and miss use the Bible. Therefor, we all get put in the same group. Works every time. |
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On 7/15/12 5:06 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 15, 3:58 pm, X ` Man wrote: On 7/15/12 4:12 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 15, 2:06 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/15/12 2:12 PM, thumper wrote: On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote: I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. All sorts of horrific behavior has been "justified" by bible readings. justified? Well, I suppose it depends on how you want to look at it, eh? Many of those who do "evil" claim they find their justification in the bible. Of course, they think they are doing what the bible tells them to do. So, they get blended in with those who do righteously because the too are 'bible believers? And naturally, not many look at the good that Christians would do especially those who would wish to make some kind of dis accreditation. After all, who wants to read something boring like that! , But rather those who want to show a dim view Christians would rather concentrate on the bad. ie. Those who 'call' themselves "Christians" and those who would pervert and miss use the Bible. Therefor, we all get put in the same group. Works every time. Well, Tim, I'm not aware of any rules that say who can or who cannot read the bible and then decide that if they wish to spread hate and evil, they can find whatever justification they think they find in that book. You, obviously, make a lot more out of the bible than I do. To me, it's an interesting book, written, edited and "adjusted" by men that, in the King James version, at least, uses beautiful language to tell its stories and histories and superstitions and so forth. It also contains its share of absolute absurdities. You probably accept many of these as articles of faith. Your privilege. |
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On Jul 15, 4:13*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 7/15/12 5:06 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 15, 3:58 pm, X ` Man wrote: On 7/15/12 4:12 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 15, 2:06 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 7/15/12 2:12 PM, thumper wrote: On 7/14/2012 12:59 PM, Tim wrote: I'm glad you brought that up, Harry. It's fascinating that you never or should I say 'rarely, point out any of the good of the Bible, yet are quick to choose it's verses that you interpret to be nothing but blood, bigotry, hatefulness, incest, *anti-science, slavery, down on women and the like. Then, it shows everyone here that is what you feel the Bible stands for, People use their own judgement to decide what the good parts are and reject or rationalize away the parts they don't agree with. *It is not a big leap to realize that we are capable of deciding what is good on our own based on real world consequences. All sorts of horrific behavior has been "justified" by bible readings. * *justified? *Well, I suppose it depends on how you want to look at it, eh? Many of those who do "evil" claim they find their justification in the bible. Of course, they think they are doing what the bible tells them to do. So, they get blended in with those who do righteously because the too are 'bible believers? And naturally, not many look at the good that Christians would do especially those who would wish to make some kind of dis accreditation. *After all, who wants to read something boring like that! * , But rather those who want to show a dim view Christians *would rather concentrate on the bad. ie. Those who 'call' themselves "Christians" and those who would pervert and miss use the Bible. Therefor, we all get put in the same group. Works every time. Well, Tim, I'm not aware of any rules that say who can or who cannot read the bible and then decide that if they wish to spread hate and evil, they can find whatever justification they think they find in that book. You, obviously, make a lot more out of the bible than I do. To me, it's an interesting book, written, edited and "adjusted" by men that, in the King James version, at least, uses beautiful language to tell its stories and histories and superstitions and so forth. It also contains its share of absolute absurdities. You probably accept many of these as articles of faith. Your privilege. Definite articles of faith. Like the absurdity of Bumblebees flying (they ain't supposed to, y'know) or mammals laying eggs, that is unless your a Platypus or an ant eater.. Definite articles of unexplained science. If you want to accept these. Your privilege. |
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On 7/15/2012 2:47 PM, Tim wrote:
Definite articles of faith. Like the absurdity of Bumblebees flying (they ain't supposed to, y'know)... That's a fallacy Tim. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...blebees-to-fly |
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On Jul 16, 1:33*am, thumper wrote:
On 7/15/2012 2:47 PM, Tim wrote: Definite articles of faith. Like the absurdity of Bumblebees flying (they ain't supposed to, y'know)... That's a fallacy Tim. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...odynamically-i... But, even that explanation has been held in question. http://plus.maths.org/content/buzz-bumblebees "Based on these experiments we concluded that the [Cambridge] hypothesis cannot explain the attachment of the vortex throughout the stroke," said Professor Dickinson. So how does the bumblebee fly? "We still don't know for sure" - and the bumblebee flies anyway. |
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On 7/16/12 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 16, 1:33 am, thumper wrote: On 7/15/2012 2:47 PM, Tim wrote: Definite articles of faith. Like the absurdity of Bumblebees flying (they ain't supposed to, y'know)... That's a fallacy Tim. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...odynamically-i... But, even that explanation has been held in question. http://plus.maths.org/content/buzz-bumblebees "Based on these experiments we concluded that the [Cambridge] hypothesis cannot explain the attachment of the vortex throughout the stroke," said Professor Dickinson. So how does the bumblebee fly? "We still don't know for sure" - and the bumblebee flies anyway. The bumblebee drinks a lot of ethanol. |
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On 7/16/2012 4:38 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 16, 1:33 am, thumper wrote: On 7/15/2012 2:47 PM, Tim wrote: Definite articles of faith. Like the absurdity of Bumblebees flying (they ain't supposed to, y'know)... That's a fallacy Tim. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...odynamically-i... But, even that explanation has been held in question. http://plus.maths.org/content/buzz-bumblebees "Based on these experiments we concluded that the [Cambridge] hypothesis cannot explain the attachment of the vortex throughout the stroke," said Professor Dickinson. So how does the bumblebee fly? "We still don't know for sure" - and the bumblebee flies anyway. "The data support an alternative hypothesis—that downward flow induced by tip vortices limits the growth of the leading-edge vortex." James M. Birch & Michael H. Dickinson http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../412729a0.html |
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