On 7/18/2012 8:05 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/18/12 7:46 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 18, 5:44 am, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/17/12 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:









On Jul 17, 8:02 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 7/17/12 8:53 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jul 17, 6:35 pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 7/17/12 7:08 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jul 17, 10:48 am, thumper wrote:
On 7/17/2012 5:45 AM, Tim wrote:

And what marvels me is those who feel that if science can't
prove it,
then there is (nor can not be ) any other explanation.

Undoubtedly there are *many* things that science will never
"prove".
That doesn't make supernatural explanations valid.

You're right. but "supernatural explanations" shouldn't be
discounted
because of such.

Goodness...and I thought you were at least near rational.

I am. Why should I not be? I'm not discounting science, but I'm
also
not discounting anything supernatural or divine. No Harry, I'm not a
close minded person as you seem to like to paint Christians to be. in
fact, I'd think I'd ;like to be considered open-minded. Not choosing
only one side.

That to me is irrational.

There isn't even the slightest bit of serious evidence to support "the
supernatural" or "the divine." Nothing, nada, zilch, zip.

Does there have to be?

I don't put "Faith" in the constructs man creates to help him understand
what he doesn't yet know. There isn't the slightest bit of serious
evidence to prove the existence of a creator.

You don't have to, Harry. Just because you don't doesn't mean the
extra ordinary doesn't exist..

Just because you don't , doesn't make it wrong or ridiculous if
others do.


My point, which I repeated several times, was that belief in the
supernatural or divine was *irrational.* Such beliefs have nothing to do
with reason. Oh, and I don't see "extraordinary" as a synonym for
supernatural or divine.

I also didn't say belief in the supernatural or divine was wrong. Once
again, I said it was *irrational.* Belief in demigods is also
irrational. I can believe in the existence of Heracles as an
extraordinarily strong man, but that doesn't mean I have to believe he
was the son of Alcmene, probably an actual woman, and Zeus, who the
Greeks believed to be their "chief" god. Religion is full of demigods.





How can you call something you don't fully understand, irrational?