In article , dump-on-
says...


I'm sorry, Richard, but I don't see you as part of the "conservative"
problem. I hope that doesn't hurt too much!


Anybody who votes Rep is a problem.
That party is now radical/extremist in nature, and vote for legislation
in lockstep, according to their most extremist views.
The Rep party proudly label themselves "conservative."
Anybody not hewing to the most extreme line gets "primaried."
Where the **** have you guys been the last few years!?
Neither one of you ever heard the words "moderate" and "independent?"
Easy to say words, and "goals" and "paths" are simple words too.
I got news for both of you. Words have meaning. Some meanings change.
"Gay" has a different meaning than it did 30 years ago.
"Republican" and "conservative" don't mean what they did 5 years ago.
Cut the bull****, and talk turkey.
Until you agree on goals and paths, you'll get nowhere.
There's a term for no agreement too - "status-quo."
Go for that, and your ass will get run over by two juggernaut words.
"History" and "progress."

On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...

I'm all for the education. Especially for those who can't read or follow
directions.
Insert pill in mouth and swallow. It really isn't that hard.

In article , says...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

It's been proven that abstinence doesn't work. But, you still don't want
contraceptive education or abortion. You just want more of something
that doesn't work. How typically conservative.

On 7/6/12 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

It's been proven that abstinence doesn't work. But, you still don't want
contraceptive education or abortion. You just want more of something
that doesn't work. How typically conservative.



D'uh. Abstinence works, dummy. What doesn't work is the typically
"church moral" *abstinence edu-ma-cat-shun.*

What is needed in the public schools is a comprehensive sex and
relationship education program that begins, probably, in the third or
fourth grade with the simple facts of life and builds progressively so
that by the time kids are in the sixth or seventh grade and really
curious and experimenting sexually, they know precisely how to prevent
pregnancies, how to prevent transmissions of STDs, and how to get along
with others. Certainly, abstinence can be part of the teaching in such a
program. The reality is that most kids are going to have sex by their
early teens and the best thing society can do is make sure they are
equipped to handle it responsibly.

I get a kick out of the religious prigs who preach the bible and against
premarital sex. The bible is full of premarital sex and lust and among
the very young. Read the Song of Solomon, for starters. The prigs, of
course, interpret the bible to preach what they want, but what they want
is not necessarily the same as what their "good book" says or means.

In article ,
says...

On 7/6/12 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

It's been proven that abstinence doesn't work. But, you still don't want
contraceptive education or abortion. You just want more of something
that doesn't work. How typically conservative.



D'uh. Abstinence works, dummy. What doesn't work is the typically
"church moral" *abstinence edu-ma-cat-shun.*

What is needed in the public schools is a comprehensive sex and
relationship education program that begins, probably, in the third or
fourth grade with the simple facts of life and builds progressively so
that by the time kids are in the sixth or seventh grade and really
curious and experimenting sexually, they know precisely how to prevent
pregnancies, how to prevent transmissions of STDs, and how to get along
with others. Certainly, abstinence can be part of the teaching in such a
program. The reality is that most kids are going to have sex by their
early teens and the best thing society can do is make sure they are
equipped to handle it responsibly.

I get a kick out of the religious prigs who preach the bible and against
premarital sex. The bible is full of premarital sex and lust and among
the very young. Read the Song of Solomon, for starters. The prigs, of
course, interpret the bible to preach what they want, but what they want
is not necessarily the same as what their "good book" says or means.

I should have said that abstinence EDUCATION doesn't work.

On 7/6/12 9:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/6/12 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

It's been proven that abstinence doesn't work. But, you still don't want
contraceptive education or abortion. You just want more of something
that doesn't work. How typically conservative.



D'uh. Abstinence works, dummy. What doesn't work is the typically
"church moral" *abstinence edu-ma-cat-shun.*

What is needed in the public schools is a comprehensive sex and
relationship education program that begins, probably, in the third or
fourth grade with the simple facts of life and builds progressively so
that by the time kids are in the sixth or seventh grade and really
curious and experimenting sexually, they know precisely how to prevent
pregnancies, how to prevent transmissions of STDs, and how to get along
with others. Certainly, abstinence can be part of the teaching in such a
program. The reality is that most kids are going to have sex by their
early teens and the best thing society can do is make sure they are
equipped to handle it responsibly.

I get a kick out of the religious prigs who preach the bible and against
premarital sex. The bible is full of premarital sex and lust and among
the very young. Read the Song of Solomon, for starters. The prigs, of
course, interpret the bible to preach what they want, but what they want
is not necessarily the same as what their "good book" says or means.

I should have said that abstinence EDUCATION doesn't work.


One of the many reasons why it doesn't work is that most of those who
offer it up are hypocritical assholes and the kids know it. Another is
that sex is fun, and if practiced voluntarily and safely between teens
of approximately the same age is harmless, certainly less harmful than
the mind****ing that goes on in fundie churches and schools and
religiously based home schooling, for example.

On 7/6/2012 10:05 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/6/12 9:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/6/12 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly
wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

It's been proven that abstinence doesn't work. But, you still don't
want
contraceptive education or abortion. You just want more of something
that doesn't work. How typically conservative.



D'uh. Abstinence works, dummy. What doesn't work is the typically
"church moral" *abstinence edu-ma-cat-shun.*

What is needed in the public schools is a comprehensive sex and
relationship education program that begins, probably, in the third or
fourth grade with the simple facts of life and builds progressively so
that by the time kids are in the sixth or seventh grade and really
curious and experimenting sexually, they know precisely how to prevent
pregnancies, how to prevent transmissions of STDs, and how to get along
with others. Certainly, abstinence can be part of the teaching in such a
program. The reality is that most kids are going to have sex by their
early teens and the best thing society can do is make sure they are
equipped to handle it responsibly.

I get a kick out of the religious prigs who preach the bible and against
premarital sex. The bible is full of premarital sex and lust and among
the very young. Read the Song of Solomon, for starters. The prigs, of
course, interpret the bible to preach what they want, but what they want
is not necessarily the same as what their "good book" says or means.

I should have said that abstinence EDUCATION doesn't work.


One of the many reasons why it doesn't work is that most of those who
offer it up are hypocritical assholes and the kids know it. Another is
that sex is fun, and if practiced voluntarily and safely between teens
of approximately the same age is harmless, certainly less harmful than
the mind****ing that goes on in fundie churches and schools and
religiously based home schooling, for example.

Gag me with a spoon. Your post was retched. No wonder folks like you are
on the watch list.

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/6/12 9:45 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/6/12 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/6/2012 1:59 AM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

Especially those opposing contraception education. If they truly wanted
to minimize abortion...


So, because you have taken the argument to it's shallowest level, you
feel you have won and there is nothing more to discuss. How typically
liberal.

It's been proven that abstinence doesn't work. But, you still don't want
contraceptive education or abortion. You just want more of something
that doesn't work. How typically conservative.



D'uh. Abstinence works, dummy. What doesn't work is the typically
"church moral" *abstinence edu-ma-cat-shun.*

What is needed in the public schools is a comprehensive sex and
relationship education program that begins, probably, in the third or
fourth grade with the simple facts of life and builds progressively so
that by the time kids are in the sixth or seventh grade and really
curious and experimenting sexually, they know precisely how to prevent
pregnancies, how to prevent transmissions of STDs, and how to get along
with others. Certainly, abstinence can be part of the teaching in such a
program. The reality is that most kids are going to have sex by their
early teens and the best thing society can do is make sure they are
equipped to handle it responsibly.

I get a kick out of the religious prigs who preach the bible and against
premarital sex. The bible is full of premarital sex and lust and among
the very young. Read the Song of Solomon, for starters. The prigs, of
course, interpret the bible to preach what they want, but what they want
is not necessarily the same as what their "good book" says or means.

I should have said that abstinence EDUCATION doesn't work.


One of the many reasons why it doesn't work is that most of those who
offer it up are hypocritical assholes and the kids know it. Another is
that sex is fun, and if practiced voluntarily and safely between teens
of approximately the same age is harmless, certainly less harmful than
the mind****ing that goes on in fundie churches and schools and
religiously based home schooling, for example.

Adolescents are going to be adolescents!