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iBoaterer[_2_] June 4th 12 01:39 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
In article , says...

On 6/3/2012 11:09 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:18:08 -0400,
wrote:

Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion
Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this other
**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...


===

There are a lot of very murky legal issues tangled up in this case.
I don't think it's a slam dunk for either side.



Common sense would suggest that the law would specifically pertain to
the moment the trigger was pulled. Based on the evidence we have so far,
at the moment he pulled the trigger, Zimmerman was in a life threatening
position with no egress as he was pinned to the ground and getting a
"MMA style beating according to the eye witness account...


You fool, there is no "evidence" of that. There is hearsay.

At the same time, watching or even following someone is not a life
threatening event so it would stand to reason Martin had no legal reason
to jump on Zimmerman and try to kill him... It's really too bad half
the country can't get far enough around their own ideology and bias to
see that this was a terrible event, but Martin could have avoided it as
well as Zimmerman by not jumping on Zimmerman and trying to kill him...
Unfortunately the racists here, in congress, and in the media can't see
this because of nothing matters to them but inventing a racial aspect in
an election year....


Really? Someone accosting you in the night isn't reason to defend
yourself?



iBoaterer[_2_] June 4th 12 01:39 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
In article , says...

On 6/3/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/3/2012 10:00 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0400,
wrote:

Bottom line for anybody with an IQ over about 3, if you are pursuing
somebody, you are not STANDING your ground, you are COVERING ground.
See the difference?

===

At least in Florida, not sure about other places, you are allowed to
use deadly force to prevent the commission of a violent felony, even
if requires pursuit. That is not "stand your ground" law however.


Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion


That is yet another one of your lies. He didn't follow Martin "till the
cops told him to stop". He continued after they told him that it's not a
good idea.

Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this

other

You don't know that.

**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...


Bull****.



The evidence presented in court backs up my supposition. If you were not
a racist, you could see that..


Cite?

iBoaterer[_2_] June 4th 12 01:40 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
In article , says...

On 6/3/2012 11:49 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/3/2012 10:18 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/3/2012 10:00 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0400,
wrote:

Bottom line for anybody with an IQ over about 3, if you are pursuing
somebody, you are not STANDING your ground, you are COVERING ground.
See the difference?

===

At least in Florida, not sure about other places, you are allowed to
use deadly force to prevent the commission of a violent felony, even
if requires pursuit. That is not "stand your ground" law however.


Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion
Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this other
**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...


Not quite correct. At the time of the shooting, Treevon was sitting on
top of the prone Zimmerman beating the **** out of him. Pardon my
French. That looks more like self defense than stand your ground.


The fact is according to all the evidence we have available, Zimmerman
had NO egress and his life was being threatened at at the time.


There is no "evidence" of such. There is hearsay.

Oscar June 4th 12 02:36 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
On 6/4/2012 8:39 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 6/3/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/3/2012 10:00 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0400,
wrote:

Bottom line for anybody with an IQ over about 3, if you are pursuing
somebody, you are not STANDING your ground, you are COVERING ground.
See the difference?

===

At least in Florida, not sure about other places, you are allowed to
use deadly force to prevent the commission of a violent felony, even
if requires pursuit. That is not "stand your ground" law however.


Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion

That is yet another one of your lies. He didn't follow Martin "till the
cops told him to stop". He continued after they told him that it's not a
good idea.

Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this
other

You don't know that.

**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...

Bull****.



The evidence presented in court backs up my supposition. If you were not
a racist, you could see that..


Cite?


I could not find a single cite that says Iboaterer is not a racist.
Sorry dude.

JustWait[_2_] June 4th 12 03:04 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
On 6/4/2012 8:39 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 6/3/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/3/2012 10:00 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0400,
wrote:

Bottom line for anybody with an IQ over about 3, if you are pursuing
somebody, you are not STANDING your ground, you are COVERING ground.
See the difference?

===

At least in Florida, not sure about other places, you are allowed to
use deadly force to prevent the commission of a violent felony, even
if requires pursuit. That is not "stand your ground" law however.


Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion

That is yet another one of your lies. He didn't follow Martin "till the
cops told him to stop". He continued after they told him that it's not a
good idea.

Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this
other

You don't know that.

**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...

Bull****.



The evidence presented in court backs up my supposition. If you were not
a racist, you could see that..


Cite?


asked and answered already...

Oscar June 4th 12 03:50 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
On 6/4/2012 10:04 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/4/2012 8:39 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 6/3/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/3/2012 10:00 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0400,
wrote:

Bottom line for anybody with an IQ over about 3, if you are pursuing
somebody, you are not STANDING your ground, you are COVERING ground.
See the difference?

===

At least in Florida, not sure about other places, you are allowed to
use deadly force to prevent the commission of a violent felony, even
if requires pursuit. That is not "stand your ground" law however.


Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion

That is yet another one of your lies. He didn't follow Martin "till the
cops told him to stop". He continued after they told him that it's
not a
good idea.

Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this
other

You don't know that.

**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...

Bull****.



The evidence presented in court backs up my supposition. If you were not
a racist, you could see that..


Cite?


asked and answered already...


Don't bother looking. There is no cite that proves Iboaterer is not a moron.

iBoaterer[_2_] June 4th 12 05:16 PM

The utter stupidity of the stand your ground law
 
In article , says...

On 6/4/2012 8:39 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/3/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/3/2012 10:00 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0400,
wrote:

Bottom line for anybody with an IQ over about 3, if you are pursuing
somebody, you are not STANDING your ground, you are COVERING ground.
See the difference?

===

At least in Florida, not sure about other places, you are allowed to
use deadly force to prevent the commission of a violent felony, even
if requires pursuit. That is not "stand your ground" law however.


Still apples and oranges. Although Zimmerman followed Martin till the
cops told him to stop. All the evidence so far leads to the conclusion

That is yet another one of your lies. He didn't follow Martin "till the
cops told him to stop". He continued after they told him that it's not a
good idea.

Martin initiated the contact, and started the fight.. So all this
other

You don't know that.

**** doesn't matter, at the time of the shooting, Zimmerman was
"standing his ground"... Period...

Bull****.



The evidence presented in court backs up my supposition. If you were not
a racist, you could see that..


Cite?


asked and answered already...


Bull****.


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