On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:55:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.

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What is your definition of middle class? Statistically there will
always be a middle as well as an upper and lower. Is middle class
defined by home ownership, multiple SUVs and smartphone accounts? Is
it defined by the television advertising media? Is it defined by
political rhetoric? Is it defined by middle class values and
behavior? Is it defined by blue color workers being able to live like
educated professionals?

Wayne, an interesting Wiki on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class

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It's good to know that even the X ` Perts can't agree.

:-)

On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.

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There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot com"
bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up those
investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans are the
ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the middle class,
specifically "their" middle class. They should start out by giving up
their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used Toyota or Honda.

On 5/29/12 3:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.

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There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot com"
bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up those
investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans are the
ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the middle class,
specifically "their" middle class. They should start out by giving up
their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used Toyota or Honda.



And therein is the reason why I rarely respond to "inquiries" here, and
why I rarely post more than a sentence or two about boating. Why bother?
You and your fellow right-wing assholes have no interest in furthering
discussion in any sort of intellectual way. One sentence posts and
responses...that's what's called for in rec.boats.


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way? Have you
done a study? Have you seen a couple of opinionated URLs somewhere?
Oh, and who are you to make the sort of suggestions you have?

There are millions and millions of Americans suffering financially, not
because they were overleveraged, but because they were ****ed by Wall
Street, the banks, vulture capitalists, and corporations offshoring jobs.

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

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Easy, close friends and relatives.

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 5/29/12 3:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.

===

There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot com"
bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up those
investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans are the
ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the middle class,
specifically "their" middle class. They should start out by giving up
their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used Toyota or Honda.



And therein is the reason why I rarely respond to "inquiries" here, and
why I rarely post more than a sentence or two about boating. Why bother?
You and your fellow right-wing assholes have no interest in furthering
discussion in any sort of intellectual way. One sentence posts and
responses...that's what's called for in rec.boats.


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way? Have you
done a study? Have you seen a couple of opinionated URLs somewhere?
Oh, and who are you to make the sort of suggestions you have?

There are millions and millions of Americans suffering financially, not
because they were overleveraged, but because they were ****ed by Wall
Street, the banks, vulture capitalists, and corporations offshoring jobs.

That was quite a "one sentence response".....

On 5/29/12 3:30 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.



Oh...a scientific sampling.

On 5/29/2012 3:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 3:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the rich became even more
greedy.

===

There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot
com" bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up
those investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans
are the ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the
middle class, specifically "their" middle class. They should start
out by giving up their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used
Toyota or Honda.



And therein is the reason why I rarely respond to "inquiries" here,
and why I rarely post more than a sentence or two about boating. Why
bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes have no interest in
furthering discussion in any sort of intellectual way. One sentence
posts and responses...that's what's called for in rec.boats.


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about
the loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?
Have you done a study? Have you seen a couple of opinionated URLs
somewhere? Oh, and who are you to make the sort of suggestions you
have?

There are millions and millions of Americans suffering financially,
not because they were overleveraged, but because they were ****ed by
Wall Street, the banks, vulture capitalists, and corporations
offshoring jobs.



And to add insult to injury the Govt. bailed out the aforementioned
****ers so they could honor their bonus and perks commitments to
themselves. Aint that special. By the way; who was the leader of this
great nation as this was going on?

On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...