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iBoaterer[_2_] June 3rd 12 01:51 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
In article , says...

On 6/3/2012 7:27 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/2/2012 1:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/2/2012 12:18 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.


Forgot the link...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockanum_River

"Historically used for industry, the river has in recent years had
hiking trails and linear parks developed along its banks. The banks of
the river are slowly being cleaned up after years of pollution and
dumping."

That's a bad thing in your eyes?

Um, if that's what you got from my post, you need to go back and read it
again, this time without the axe to grind...snerk


Well, I think I read it more thoroughly than you. Because YOU said:

"I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true."

When in fact, they've made a LOT of progress.


You stupid ****.. You are responding to me, and talking about a quote
Greg made about a differnet river.... I don't suppose I will get an
apology? LOL!!


Uh, no. You need to go back and read. "LOL"

Califbill June 3rd 12 11:08 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.


What went wrong?


The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,


All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


iBoaterer[_2_] June 4th 12 01:45 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?


The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,


All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.

Califbill June 5th 12 04:09 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?


The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,


All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during their
40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left wing gets
even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a lot longer
time.


JustWait[_2_] June 5th 12 04:14 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
On 6/5/2012 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?

The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,


All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during
their 40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left
wing gets even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a
lot longer time.


Can't wait to see how he justifies that? snerk

iBoaterer[_2_] June 5th 12 04:22 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?

The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,


All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during their
40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left wing gets
even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a lot longer
time.


Because the fact is, they were cleaning up far worse places.

iBoaterer[_2_] June 5th 12 04:23 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
In article , says...

On 6/5/2012 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?

The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,

All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during
their 40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left
wing gets even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a
lot longer time.


Can't wait to see how he justifies that? snerk


See above, moron.

JustWait[_2_] June 5th 12 04:25 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
On 6/5/2012 11:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleM6Sdnb7LgsikvFPSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In articledO2dnXl9Ia39fVbSnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?

The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,

All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during their
40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left wing gets
even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a lot longer
time.


Because the fact is, they were cleaning up far worse places.


Are you kidding me? 40 years??? Time for a change...

Califbill June 5th 12 07:08 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?

The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,


All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then
either.


Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during
their
40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left wing gets
even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a lot longer
time.


Because the fact is, they were cleaning up far worse places.
----------------------------
BS.


JustWait[_2_] June 5th 12 07:15 PM

Great day on the Potomac
 
On 6/5/2012 2:08 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:31:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:48:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

I suppose in your mind polluting our waterways is okay?

It seems to be when it is the DC government doing it.

I was amazed that 50 years after the feds decided to clean up the
river that it is still so bad. I really believed they were making
measurable progress but from what I am reading, sadly, that is not
true.

What went wrong?

The DC government still has not fixed a 19th century sewer system.
When it rains the storm drains that share pipe with the sewers
overload the system and they dump raw effluent from 53 different
spillways directly into the Potomac or it's tributaries.
That is what WSSC admits to in the link John posted.
Then you have the nutrient load from the Blue Plains plant when

things
are working perfectly.

They have banned summer fertilizer sales here for a nutrient problem
that pales by comparison

I suppose you could just say it is a city problem and any time you

put
that many toilets in that small an area you overload nature's
mechanism for dealing with it.

It would be interesting to see the NPDES permits for other big cities
to see how they are doing.,

All of that takes MAJOR money, and the right wing doesn't want the
government to spend.


-------------------------------
Bull****! DC has had leftist government for years, and the Dems
controlled
Congress for a couple decades. DC did not clean up their act then

either.

Has nothing to do with the FACT that it takes major money, and the right
wing doesn't want the government to spend. Furthermore, it's too big of
a project for DC to take on alone.


-------------------------------------------------------------
then why did not the Democrat controlled Congress clean up DC during
their
40 years of control? If you blame the right wing, then the left wing gets
even more blame as they controlled both DC and Congress for a lot longer
time.


Because the fact is, they were cleaning up far worse places.
----------------------------
BS.


If after 40 years they still didn't find time to address DC, it's time
for a change...


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