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Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
On May 26, 7:04*am, John H. wrote:
Wonder how much it would cost me to get my pickup converted to 'bi-fuel'. Way too expensive. Not only in modification, but also in fuel economy. And where are you going to find LP out on the road? |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
On 5/26/2012 8:20 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:04:01 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:45:12 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:36:41 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:03:20 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 I am always in the learning mode. That's why the question mark. But the article indicates that proper procedures for handling the stuff are well known. The article answers the original question. Thanks. I guess another point to be made is that smaller boats may not have any room to install an LP locker. (At least, I can't figure out where.) I'd really like to join the LP/LNG rush, but I don't think I have room on any of my boats to accommodate the locker. I'll throw a question back at you, since you are a diesel owner. Do you expect the price of diesel to drop dramatically as 18-wheelers convert to LNG? We may soon be addressing the return of diesel outboards and alternative highway fuels for those boat and RV haulers. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...910235090.html I hadn't seen that article. Since refineries can adjust output of different products, I wouldn't expect the price of diesel to fluctuate any more than the price of gasoline. If the LNG rush catches on big time, I'd expect the demand for both diesel and gasoline to go down, along with the prices. I liked this line: "But today, truck manufacturers are embracing natural gas for everything from bi-fuel pickup trucks like the Chevy Silverado HD to eighteen-wheelers that can burn natural gas either compressed, called CNG, or super-chilled, called LNG." Wonder how much it would cost me to get my pickup converted to 'bi-fuel'. I wonder....if diesel outboards become popular, will Karen from down-under come back to the group? I hope not with that butt ugly diesel in a box contraption she/he/whatever showed us. Hey harry, can you limit the posts to two or three sock puppets? Thanks... |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
In article ,
says... On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John H. wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 So isn't gasoline. |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
On 5/26/2012 8:52 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:34:10 -0400, wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:20 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:04:01 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:45:12 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:36:41 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:03:20 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 I am always in the learning mode. That's why the question mark. But the article indicates that proper procedures for handling the stuff are well known. The article answers the original question. Thanks. I guess another point to be made is that smaller boats may not have any room to install an LP locker. (At least, I can't figure out where.) I'd really like to join the LP/LNG rush, but I don't think I have room on any of my boats to accommodate the locker. I'll throw a question back at you, since you are a diesel owner. Do you expect the price of diesel to drop dramatically as 18-wheelers convert to LNG? We may soon be addressing the return of diesel outboards and alternative highway fuels for those boat and RV haulers. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...910235090.html I hadn't seen that article. Since refineries can adjust output of different products, I wouldn't expect the price of diesel to fluctuate any more than the price of gasoline. If the LNG rush catches on big time, I'd expect the demand for both diesel and gasoline to go down, along with the prices. I liked this line: "But today, truck manufacturers are embracing natural gas for everything from bi-fuel pickup trucks like the Chevy Silverado HD to eighteen-wheelers that can burn natural gas either compressed, called CNG, or super-chilled, called LNG." Wonder how much it would cost me to get my pickup converted to 'bi-fuel'. I wonder....if diesel outboards become popular, will Karen from down-under come back to the group? I hope not with that butt ugly diesel in a box contraption she/he/whatever showed us. Hey harry, can you limit the posts to two or three sock puppets? Thanks... I don't mind: I can be your Harry if you aren't getting enough attention. Oh gee, you are just too clever for me harry... |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
In article ,
says... On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:58:55 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:52 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:34:10 -0400, wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:20 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:04:01 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:45:12 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:36:41 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:03:20 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 I am always in the learning mode. That's why the question mark. But the article indicates that proper procedures for handling the stuff are well known. The article answers the original question. Thanks. I guess another point to be made is that smaller boats may not have any room to install an LP locker. (At least, I can't figure out where.) I'd really like to join the LP/LNG rush, but I don't think I have room on any of my boats to accommodate the locker. I'll throw a question back at you, since you are a diesel owner. Do you expect the price of diesel to drop dramatically as 18-wheelers convert to LNG? We may soon be addressing the return of diesel outboards and alternative highway fuels for those boat and RV haulers. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...910235090.html I hadn't seen that article. Since refineries can adjust output of different products, I wouldn't expect the price of diesel to fluctuate any more than the price of gasoline. If the LNG rush catches on big time, I'd expect the demand for both diesel and gasoline to go down, along with the prices. I liked this line: "But today, truck manufacturers are embracing natural gas for everything from bi-fuel pickup trucks like the Chevy Silverado HD to eighteen-wheelers that can burn natural gas either compressed, called CNG, or super-chilled, called LNG." Wonder how much it would cost me to get my pickup converted to 'bi-fuel'. I wonder....if diesel outboards become popular, will Karen from down-under come back to the group? I hope not with that butt ugly diesel in a box contraption she/he/whatever showed us. Hey harry, can you limit the posts to two or three sock puppets? Thanks... I don't mind: I can be your Harry if you aren't getting enough attention. Oh gee, you are just too clever for me harry... If you WERE clever, you would realize that you are outsmarting yourself. You've seen it before, he, Don and John just think someone is somebody else in there head, and then in there head it becomes reality. |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
In article ,
says... On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:35:57 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John H. wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 So isn't gasoline. Do we store gasoline tanks on the deck in lockers vented overboard? In a way, yes. Gasoline is stored in a gasoline tank (locker) and is vented. |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
On 5/26/12 9:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:58:55 -0400, wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:52 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:34:10 -0400, wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:20 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:04:01 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:45:12 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:36:41 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:03:20 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 I am always in the learning mode. That's why the question mark. But the article indicates that proper procedures for handling the stuff are well known. The article answers the original question. Thanks. I guess another point to be made is that smaller boats may not have any room to install an LP locker. (At least, I can't figure out where.) I'd really like to join the LP/LNG rush, but I don't think I have room on any of my boats to accommodate the locker. I'll throw a question back at you, since you are a diesel owner. Do you expect the price of diesel to drop dramatically as 18-wheelers convert to LNG? We may soon be addressing the return of diesel outboards and alternative highway fuels for those boat and RV haulers. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...910235090.html I hadn't seen that article. Since refineries can adjust output of different products, I wouldn't expect the price of diesel to fluctuate any more than the price of gasoline. If the LNG rush catches on big time, I'd expect the demand for both diesel and gasoline to go down, along with the prices. I liked this line: "But today, truck manufacturers are embracing natural gas for everything from bi-fuel pickup trucks like the Chevy Silverado HD to eighteen-wheelers that can burn natural gas either compressed, called CNG, or super-chilled, called LNG." Wonder how much it would cost me to get my pickup converted to 'bi-fuel'. I wonder....if diesel outboards become popular, will Karen from down-under come back to the group? I hope not with that butt ugly diesel in a box contraption she/he/whatever showed us. Hey harry, can you limit the posts to two or three sock puppets? Thanks... I don't mind: I can be your Harry if you aren't getting enough attention. Oh gee, you are just too clever for me harry... If you WERE clever, you would realize that you are outsmarting yourself. Please...you are dealing with someone who probably can't be trained to wipe himself. |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
On 5/26/2012 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:58:55 -0400, wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:52 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:34:10 -0400, wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:20 AM, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 08:04:01 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:45:12 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:36:41 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:03:20 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 I am always in the learning mode. That's why the question mark. But the article indicates that proper procedures for handling the stuff are well known. The article answers the original question. Thanks. I guess another point to be made is that smaller boats may not have any room to install an LP locker. (At least, I can't figure out where.) I'd really like to join the LP/LNG rush, but I don't think I have room on any of my boats to accommodate the locker. I'll throw a question back at you, since you are a diesel owner. Do you expect the price of diesel to drop dramatically as 18-wheelers convert to LNG? We may soon be addressing the return of diesel outboards and alternative highway fuels for those boat and RV haulers. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...910235090.html I hadn't seen that article. Since refineries can adjust output of different products, I wouldn't expect the price of diesel to fluctuate any more than the price of gasoline. If the LNG rush catches on big time, I'd expect the demand for both diesel and gasoline to go down, along with the prices. I liked this line: "But today, truck manufacturers are embracing natural gas for everything from bi-fuel pickup trucks like the Chevy Silverado HD to eighteen-wheelers that can burn natural gas either compressed, called CNG, or super-chilled, called LNG." Wonder how much it would cost me to get my pickup converted to 'bi-fuel'. I wonder....if diesel outboards become popular, will Karen from down-under come back to the group? I hope not with that butt ugly diesel in a box contraption she/he/whatever showed us. Hey harry, can you limit the posts to two or three sock puppets? Thanks... I don't mind: I can be your Harry if you aren't getting enough attention. Oh gee, you are just too clever for me harry... If you WERE clever, you would realize that you are outsmarting yourself. You've seen it before, he, Don and John just think someone is somebody else in there head, and then in there head it becomes reality. LOl... you still playin' that. You don't remember coming here and telling us you were going flying? (wink)... It is what it is... |
Propane Outboard Motor Anyone?
On 5/26/2012 8:35 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:50:22 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:22:37 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:32:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.golehr.com/ It would certainly eliminate the ethanol/bad fuel problems. Where onboard does one safely store the propane? Why not where the gasoline is stored now? Different tank, of course. I've got four 20lb'ers on my trailer. Doesn't seem to cause anyone a problem until I go under the tunnel at Norfolf or Baltimore. Then I just have to turn them off. John, management of LP gas is a well known problem, on boats. http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=502 So isn't gasoline. Gasoline storage isn't a problem? |
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