On 4/30/12 11:28 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/29/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/29/12 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:58:25 -0400, wrote:


Might get his bail raised or revoked. The guy also may have another
lawyer leave him after he lied to him.

SANFORD, Fla. ? A judge is considering whether to raise or revoke the
bond for George Zimmerman after his lawyer told the judge a website
raised $200,000 for the defense.

Mark O'Mara told the judge Friday that Zimmerman's family hadn't told
him about the money before his client was given $150,000 bond.

Florida Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester says he wants to know more about
the money before he decides whether to adjust the bond. The judge
will
make a decision on the bond at a later date.

Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder for the shooting
death of
17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed.

Zimmerman claims self-defense. The neighborhood watch volunteer
wasn't
charged for more than six weeks, leading to nationwide protests

That $200k is going to be more like 120k after taxes and the lawyers
will eat all of it.

Good, he shouldn't be paid because he killed a kid.


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

Zimmerman shouldn't have started the fight, eh?

Martin shouldn't have been casing his neighbors cars on the way home, eh?

Oh? You have proof of that? Doubtful.

On 4/30/2012 4:40 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 30, 2:26 am, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:47:44 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:21:51 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:01:00 -0400, wrote:

... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you bought that bull****. If
Zimmerman would have shown any signs whatsoever of being subject to
the kind of trauma that would result in a concussion (which beating
the **** out of him would indeed imply) he'd have shown signs of it
and would have been taken immediately to the hospital for tests and
observation.

According to everyone who witnessed him, he was alert and doing well.

Whatever Greg, understand you need to be against the black kid because
you're a conservative in the south.

The legal question is not actual bodily harm, only the FEAR of great
bodily harm. There are pictures of two cuts in the back of his head
from the concrete. He was not required to wait for a concussion before
he had the right to defend himself.

Maybe it is different up where you live.

I speak of the EMT's who attended to him. Any sign of trauma to the
head and they would immediately take him to the hospital since the
liability could create a catastrophic situation for whomever the EMTs
work for.

The EMT's can not force him to go to a hospital. And like plum, you need
to go to the court hearing last week, listen to it, then come back and
comment...


He pursued the kid with a weapon against the advise of the 911
dispatcher and then found himself in a situation where he feared for
his life? Does that sound as stupid to you as it's going to sound to
a jury or will you convince yourself otherwise? They guy promoted and
invited the situation but you think "stand your ground" is going to
rule the day? Ridiculous.

Why, the law is clear. Even if he is an idiot, AND has a gun, he can
*still* meet the criteria to qualify for stand your ground?

I still don't understand why progressives refuse to even quick over the
evidence available before they make up their bull**** lies, only thing I
can think of is, it's an election year for the Racist in Chief...

Why are you so angry JPS? Haven't been getting your full dose of
pecker lately? Did your boyfriend cu you off?

On 4/30/2012 7:29 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:47:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:21:51 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:01:00 -0400, wrote:


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you bought that bull****. If
Zimmerman would have shown any signs whatsoever of being subject to
the kind of trauma that would result in a concussion (which beating
the **** out of him would indeed imply) he'd have shown signs of it
and would have been taken immediately to the hospital for tests and
observation.

According to everyone who witnessed him, he was alert and doing well.

Whatever Greg, understand you need to be against the black kid because
you're a conservative in the south.


The legal question is not actual bodily harm, only the FEAR of great
bodily harm. There are pictures of two cuts in the back of his head
from the concrete. He was not required to wait for a concussion before
he had the right to defend himself.

Maybe it is different up where you live.

I speak of the EMT's who attended to him. Any sign of trauma to the
head and they would immediately take him to the hospital since the
liability could create a catastrophic situation for whomever the EMTs
work for.

Zimmerman should have gone to the Hospital but he could have refused
medical attention, he is an adult.

He pursued the kid with a weapon against the advise of the 911
dispatcher and then found himself in a situation where he feared for
his life? Does that sound as stupid to you as it's going to sound to
a jury or will you convince yourself otherwise? They guy promoted and
invited the situation but you think "stand your ground" is going to
rule the day? Ridiculous.

You have no proof "he pursued the kid".


And yet, I guarantee, plum, jps, and the asshat will still keep saying
it.... Right till November 6th... and ride it all the way!

In article , says...

On 4/29/2012 1:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:58:25 -0400, wrote:


Might get his bail raised or revoked. The guy also may have another
lawyer leave him after he lied to him.

SANFORD, Fla. ? A judge is considering whether to raise or revoke the
bond for George Zimmerman after his lawyer told the judge a website
raised $200,000 for the defense.

Mark O'Mara told the judge Friday that Zimmerman's family hadn't told
him about the money before his client was given $150,000 bond.

Florida Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester says he wants to know more about
the money before he decides whether to adjust the bond. The judge will
make a decision on the bond at a later date.

Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder for the shooting death of
17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed.

Zimmerman claims self-defense. The neighborhood watch volunteer wasn't
charged for more than six weeks, leading to nationwide protests

That $200k is going to be more like 120k after taxes and the lawyers
will eat all of it.

Good, he shouldn't be paid because he killed a kid.


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

You have no evidence if that happened. Even if it did, he may have very
well been defending himself.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

You have no evidence if that happened. Even if it did, he may have very
well been defending himself.



There's plenty of evidence that, that happened.. Photos of blood running
down Zimmermans back, grass on his back, the witness who said it
happened... and more. Why can't you even be honest in this issue, are
you so racist that you can only see it one way?

Cite?

In article , says...

On 4/30/2012 8:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:21:35 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:58:25 -0400, wrote:


Might get his bail raised or revoked. The guy also may have another
lawyer leave him after he lied to him.

SANFORD, Fla. ? A judge is considering whether to raise or revoke the
bond for George Zimmerman after his lawyer told the judge a website
raised $200,000 for the defense.

Mark O'Mara told the judge Friday that Zimmerman's family hadn't told
him about the money before his client was given $150,000 bond.

Florida Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester says he wants to know more about
the money before he decides whether to adjust the bond. The judge will
make a decision on the bond at a later date.

Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder for the shooting death of
17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed.

Zimmerman claims self-defense. The neighborhood watch volunteer wasn't
charged for more than six weeks, leading to nationwide protests

That $200k is going to be more like 120k after taxes and the lawyers
will eat all of it.

Good, he shouldn't be paid because he killed a kid.


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

You have no evidence if that happened. Even if it did, he may have very
well been defending himself.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

You have no evidence if that happened. Even if it did, he may have very
well been defending himself.



The significant thing is the state has said they have no evidence that
it didn't happen that way at the bail hearing and the state has the
burden of proof.

Cite?

You stupid ****, you still have not listened to the transcript of the
court hearing and you are commenting here anyway? What a harry...

Bull****. NO WHERE in the transcript did anyone from the state's
attorney's office ever say "they have no evidence" of anything. If there
is, show me. Short answer, you can't.

In article , says...

On 4/29/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/29/12 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:33:31 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:58:25 -0400, wrote:


Might get his bail raised or revoked. The guy also may have another
lawyer leave him after he lied to him.

SANFORD, Fla. ? A judge is considering whether to raise or revoke the
bond for George Zimmerman after his lawyer told the judge a website
raised $200,000 for the defense.

Mark O'Mara told the judge Friday that Zimmerman's family hadn't told
him about the money before his client was given $150,000 bond.

Florida Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester says he wants to know more about
the money before he decides whether to adjust the bond. The judge will
make a decision on the bond at a later date.

Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder for the shooting death of
17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed.

Zimmerman claims self-defense. The neighborhood watch volunteer wasn't
charged for more than six weeks, leading to nationwide protests

That $200k is going to be more like 120k after taxes and the lawyers
will eat all of it.

Good, he shouldn't be paid because he killed a kid.


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

Zimmerman shouldn't have started the fight, eh?

Martin shouldn't have been casing his neighbors cars on the way home, eh?

Cite?

In article , says...

On 4/30/2012 7:29 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:47:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:21:51 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:01:00 -0400, wrote:


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you bought that bull****. If
Zimmerman would have shown any signs whatsoever of being subject to
the kind of trauma that would result in a concussion (which beating
the **** out of him would indeed imply) he'd have shown signs of it
and would have been taken immediately to the hospital for tests and
observation.

According to everyone who witnessed him, he was alert and doing well.

Whatever Greg, understand you need to be against the black kid because
you're a conservative in the south.


The legal question is not actual bodily harm, only the FEAR of great
bodily harm. There are pictures of two cuts in the back of his head
from the concrete. He was not required to wait for a concussion before
he had the right to defend himself.

Maybe it is different up where you live.

I speak of the EMT's who attended to him. Any sign of trauma to the
head and they would immediately take him to the hospital since the
liability could create a catastrophic situation for whomever the EMTs
work for.

Zimmerman should have gone to the Hospital but he could have refused
medical attention, he is an adult.

He pursued the kid with a weapon against the advise of the 911
dispatcher and then found himself in a situation where he feared for
his life? Does that sound as stupid to you as it's going to sound to
a jury or will you convince yourself otherwise? They guy promoted and
invited the situation but you think "stand your ground" is going to
rule the day? Ridiculous.

You have no proof "he pursued the kid".


And yet, I guarantee, plum, jps, and the asshat will still keep saying
it.... Right till November 6th... and ride it all the way!

You have no proof that Martin attacked Zimmerman, either, but you and
the rest of the FOX sheeples sure do cling to that idea.

On 4/30/12 12:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:29:24 -0400, wrote:

Zimmerman should have gone to the Hospital but he could have refused
medical attention, he is an adult.

Maybe he didn't have insurance and couldn't pay a $5,000 ER bill along
with the $800 ambulance ride.




Right...this is the United States, after all, where, if you don't have a
lot of cash or health insurance, you're ****ed. Right. Got it.

On 4/30/12 12:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:52:10 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:



It's safe to assume that an ignorant fool like you would not know about
the serious race-related problems the Sanford police had and have, the
drug problems in the area, and that large parts of north east and
central Florida are populated by ignorant white racists at least as
stupid as you are, or that Florida itself had the largest number of
lynchings of black folks. So, yes, race is still a big issue in parts of
Florida.

You are talking ancient history. When was the last lynching? 75 years
ago? 100 years ago?
This particular neighborhood was racially mixed and the black guy who
came to the defense of Zimmerman was a retired CNN executive.
The Sanford police had a shakeup after the racist problems, the city
manager who appointed the current chief is black and the second in
command is black.
They have also said this is a witch hunt and they refused to accept
the resignation of the chief.


The chief of police said in a lengthy TV interview some weeks ago that
his department in its recent history had very serious problems of
racism, and that he had been working to alleviate them, but there was a
lot of work yet to be done.

As for "race relations" in redneck/cracker areas of Florida, they remain
a continuing problem. I have no familiarity with your area of the state.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:26:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:47:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:21:51 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:01:00 -0400, wrote:


... a kid who was beating the **** out of him.

How many times would your head have to hit the pavement before you
thought you were "in danger of great bodily harm"?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you bought that bull****. If
Zimmerman would have shown any signs whatsoever of being subject to
the kind of trauma that would result in a concussion (which beating
the **** out of him would indeed imply) he'd have shown signs of it
and would have been taken immediately to the hospital for tests and
observation.

According to everyone who witnessed him, he was alert and doing well.

Whatever Greg, understand you need to be against the black kid because
you're a conservative in the south.


The legal question is not actual bodily harm, only the FEAR of great
bodily harm. There are pictures of two cuts in the back of his head
from the concrete. He was not required to wait for a concussion before
he had the right to defend himself.

Maybe it is different up where you live.

I speak of the EMT's who attended to him. Any sign of trauma to the
head and they would immediately take him to the hospital since the
liability could create a catastrophic situation for whomever the EMTs
work for.

He pursued the kid with a weapon against the advise of the 911
dispatcher and then found himself in a situation where he feared for
his life? Does that sound as stupid to you as it's going to sound to
a jury or will you convince yourself otherwise? They guy promoted and
invited the situation but you think "stand your ground" is going to
rule the day? Ridiculous.


I suppose it all comes down to the difference between pursuit and
simply following with the intent of maintaining visual contact.

Zimmerman has the legal right to watch someone and that is the legal
test.

And Martin had the legal right to be walking around at night.