In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:16:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Evidently in Zimmerman's case long enough to get cold-cocked, have the guy get on top of you and bounce your head off the ground a couple of times.

Gee, you say that like you have facts to back that up! What are they?
Hospital reports? Nope.

The Z family says they have medical records

Hearsay.

Witnesses? Nope.
There are 2 who put Z on top, the 2 who saw the fight

From far away. How credible are these witnesses you hold so highly? Has
the prosecution had a chance to examine and ascertain just what they
know and how they know it? Have they done studies to determine whether
or not from where they were, at night, tell exactly what was going on?

Hearsay? Yep!
Nope

Then show me the real evidence that exonerates Zimmerman, it seems to be
missing.

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says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:52:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Because that's what did. He told police he got out of the car and
"approached" Martin.

You obviously did not listen to that phone call.

Why talk with a troll? It's pointless.

On 4/17/2012 9:02 AM, wrote:

It is going to be a long hot summer and if that happens, say hi to
President Romney.

Wow, that's quite an extrapolation.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:02:01 -0400, wrote:

It is going to be a long hot summer and if that happens, say hi to
President Romney.

===

Wouldn't that be ironic.

On 4/17/12 9:49 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:02:01 -0400, wrote:

It is going to be a long hot summer and if that happens, say hi to
President Romney.

===

Wouldn't that be ironic.



The fervent wish of the right...

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



"Asking a question is not assault."

But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to
assault you? Do you wait for him to do so?


True, but it was Martin who asked the first question.

Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the
first question too. It would be stupid not to.

Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would
you tell him you had a right to be there.

It all depends on HOW he approached me.

Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to
believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman
asking what Martin was doing there.

So?

Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the
girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend.

Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up?


Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they
conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman
It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case.
Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will
win. This is just a knee jerk political move.

Don't confuse him with facts.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



"Asking a question is not assault."

But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to
assault you? Do you wait for him to do so?


True, but it was Martin who asked the first question.

Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the
first question too. It would be stupid not to.

Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would
you tell him you had a right to be there.

It all depends on HOW he approached me.

Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to
believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman
asking what Martin was doing there.

So?

Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the
girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend.

Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up?


Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they
conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman
It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case.
Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will
win. This is just a knee jerk political move.

Sanford PD never wanted to press charges. They barely looked for
forensic evidence. There is a general to do list at a homicide scene.
Barely anything normally done was done this time.

In article 18562529.2042.1334771010739.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynee1, says...

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:27:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



"Asking a question is not assault."

But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to
assault you? Do you wait for him to do so?


True, but it was Martin who asked the first question.

Some vigilante creepy guy following me around at night, I'd ask the
first question too. It would be stupid not to.

Would you punch the guy when he asked you why you were there or would
you tell him you had a right to be there.

It all depends on HOW he approached me.

Either we believe the girlfriend or we ONLY have Zimmerman to
believe., The last words before the fight started were from Zimmerman
asking what Martin was doing there.

So?

Zimmerman's statement to the police was basically the same as what the
girlfriend says, before Zimmerman even knew there was a girlfriend.

Do you mean the statement that the police helped Zimmerman conjure up?


Since the police actually wanted to bring charges I doubt they
conjured up anything helpful for Zimmerman
It was the states attorney who said they did not have a case.
Nothing has changed and I still doubt they have a case the state will
win. This is just a knee jerk political move.

Don't confuse him with facts.

Fact: Zimmerman killed Martin.
Fact: Sanford PD didn't follow anywhere near normal investigations of a
homicide.
Fact: Zimmerman stalked Martin
Fact: Zimmerman was a known hostile hot head.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:25:58 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:16:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Evidently in Zimmerman's case long enough to get cold-cocked, have the guy get on top of you and bounce your head off the ground a couple of times.

Gee, you say that like you have facts to back that up! What are they?
Hospital reports? Nope.

The Z family says they have medical records

Hearsay.

Witnesses? Nope.
There are 2 who put Z on top, the 2 who saw the fight

From far away. How credible are these witnesses you hold so highly? Has
the prosecution had a chance to examine and ascertain just what they
know and how they know it? Have they done studies to determine whether
or not from where they were, at night, tell exactly what was going on?

Hearsay? Yep!
Nope

Then show me the real evidence that exonerates Zimmerman, it seems to be
missing.

Perhaps you were absent the day they taught civics in civics class.
The defense doesn't have to prove anything. It is up to the
prosecution to prove their case.

I didn't say that the defense has to prove anything. What I asked you to
show me is real evidence that exonerates Zimmerman because it was you
who has said all along that he's innocent.

The defendant is innocent until proved guilty.

Yes, he is, but that doesn't mean that there was cover up by the Sanford
PD.

The state will have to come up with evidence that Zimmerman's story is
not true. They have not shown any so far.

Of course they haven't. The trial hasn't started yet.

There is still a very good chance that this gets tossed at the
immunity hearing and it never gets to a jury.

And there is just as good of a chance that he'll be convicted.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:43:50 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/17/12 9:49 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:02:01 -0400, wrote:

It is going to be a long hot summer and if that happens, say hi to
President Romney.

===

Wouldn't that be ironic.



The fervent wish of the right...

I am not a Romney fan, but then I might be, or not, or so. What day is
it?
Shake up that etch a sketch and let's take another look. He might be
OK this time.

I am really surprised someone has not Google Bombed Romney to the top
hit for "Empty Suit".

Too bad Paris Hilton is not running this time. I am not sure who to
vote for now. ;-)

Alfred E. Neuman of course!