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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/17/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/14/12 8:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote: In , He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please, you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that "the actions of Martin" led to his death. If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to explain who he was and why he was there. After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and Martin was a stranger. The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked "what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.) Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose. I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on walking to the house where a blood relative lived. If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman. Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts. If the property is that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed. They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just like you would for your private property that you have said you would kill over. Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch.. I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain... Really? So if a perfect stranger approaches you in the dark, doesn't identify himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante, you would give that person all of the information he asks for? That's stupid. |
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#163
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/17/2012 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/16/2012 3:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleCOKdnTZPKps_7RHSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited. Martin was indeed invited there. "Well then"??? How about saying, "sorry I lied about him not being private property, I will go read the police report before making an ass of myself again here"...???????? You are ****ing insane! What you have just typed has NOTHING to do with the way trespassing laws work. once you get hysterical, I stop reading.... snerk Do tell then, HOW was Treyvon Wilson trespassing? I'm sure you'll not answer, you don't like it when those pesky FACTS get in the way of what FOX has told you! |
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#164
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/17/2012 9:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/16/2012 2:32 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:50:07 -0400, wrote: You would go to jail for trespassing. Nope, they are public streets. Not inside a gated community. As soon as you put up a gate, you own the street. In this case they were NEVER government owned streets. The developer built the street, the HOA owns the street and is responsible for maintenance. The cops come in as visitors unless they are in hot pursuit, the same as it would be on your patio., In our county they actually have a different bunch of deputies to handle gated communities (a great gig by the way) We went through this when some people here wanted our HOA to put up gates. We would have been required to get the county to vacate the roads and cede them over to us. then we would get no more county maintenance. That was the show stopper. Most gated communities are built from scratch and they never give the roads to the county. (the county will not take them, even if you want, when they are behind gates) I am amazed at how little you people know about HOAs and gated communities, yet you seem to have plenty of opinions. This guy just refuses to look at any info before he makes up his next troll... Amazing, he hasn't changed a bit. I lived in a HOA in the eighties.. Just couldn't live that way, but it was good as it convinced us to buy a house  Psssst, I'm on my HOA's board....... Yeah, I could have guessed that... Well then, tell me just how could you have guessed that? |
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#165
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:27:56 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 27180777.450.1334667777609.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbr30, says... On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:00:08 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article 25970260.417.1334621734133.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:18:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:59:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:14:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , The only story we have is that Martin approached Zimmerman. Unless there is a witness we have not seen yet, that will be the only story we have. Everything else is speculation. Not true at all. Zimmerman STATED that he "followed Martin". He also said he had lost sight of Martin I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. And the stranger has no right to just walk away? Not really ... in Florida. On your property, you can pretty much shoot them and that is particularly true if they punch you in the nose and knock you down Harry would shoot you for that and he lives in a "retreat state" So if a man like Zimmerman approaches me at night in Florida while I'm walking home I can't under law walk away? You can certainly walk away but you can't punch them in the nose for asking "what are you doing here" on private property. And there you have it... it's not against the law to ask someone a question. It IS against the law to commit assault & battery. "Going to my Dad's house." was the proper response. A little less attitude would have saved his life. Oh, so a person in Florida is automatically supposed to just do nothing when someone attempts to assault him? Then just what IS this stand your ground law for? Write 100 times: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? Do you commit assault and battery on everyone that is asking you a question, just in case they are about to attack you? |
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#166
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article 16634306.320.1334676758660.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynll26, says... On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:27:56 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article 27180777.450.1334667777609.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynbr30, says... On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:00:08 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article 25970260.417.1334621734133.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:18:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:59:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:14:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , The only story we have is that Martin approached Zimmerman. Unless there is a witness we have not seen yet, that will be the only story we have. Everything else is speculation. Not true at all. Zimmerman STATED that he "followed Martin". He also said he had lost sight of Martin I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. And the stranger has no right to just walk away? Not really ... in Florida. On your property, you can pretty much shoot them and that is particularly true if they punch you in the nose and knock you down Harry would shoot you for that and he lives in a "retreat state" So if a man like Zimmerman approaches me at night in Florida while I'm walking home I can't under law walk away? You can certainly walk away but you can't punch them in the nose for asking "what are you doing here" on private property. And there you have it... it's not against the law to ask someone a question. It IS against the law to commit assault & battery. "Going to my Dad's house." was the proper response. A little less attitude would have saved his life. Oh, so a person in Florida is automatically supposed to just do nothing when someone attempts to assault him? Then just what IS this stand your ground law for? Write 100 times: "Asking a question is not assault." But how do you know that the person asking the question isn't about to assault you? Do you wait for him to do so? Do you commit assault and battery on everyone that is asking you a question, just in case they are about to attack you? How do you know that Wilson committed an assault and battery? But, I certainly wouldn't give a stranger in the night any information without knowing who he was and what he wanted. It would be stupid to do so. |
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#167
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:02:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:18:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: You can certainly walk away but you can't punch them in the nose for asking "what are you doing here" on private property. And there you have it... it's not against the law to ask someone a question. It IS against the law to commit assault & battery. "Going to my Dad's house." was the proper response. A little less attitude would have saved his life. Sad but true. Unfortunately we have raised a couple generations of kids who are all about "attitude", particularly in the black community. If Zimmerman had been a North Miami thug like Martin wanted to be, there would have been more respect shown. Bull****. So, in the dark of night, a stranger comes up to you or someone who is able to defend themselves, doesn't identify himself, so you don't know what he intends, you are just going to offer him up any information he wants? You are still assuming Zimmerman "came up to" Martin. What is your source for that information? Because that's what did. He told police he got out of the car and "approached" Martin. Zimmerman says Martin approached him from behind and nobody has said they actually saw anything different. You can make up any fantasy you like but there is only one real witness so far and that is Zimmerman. See, that is the problem with Zimmerman's story. You and others because FOX tells you to, instantly assume Zimmerman is being honest here. |
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#168
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/17/12 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:07:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/17/12 9:02 AM, wrote: "Asking a question is not assault." Not answering a question is not asking to be assaulted. It appears Martin answered the question with a punch in the nose. Nothing more than right-wing conjecture on your part. |
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