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iBoaterer[_2_] April 10th 12 01:37 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

SunshineStateJim April 10th 12 02:39 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


His lawyers want to be paid?

iBoaterer[_2_] April 10th 12 03:17 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article , says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


His lawyers want to be paid?


If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.

[email protected] April 10th 12 03:45 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend themselves?

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 10th 12 03:57 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article 4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.


Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend themselves?


No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.


No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.


Ever hear of a public defender?



[email protected] April 10th 12 04:16 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:57:32 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.


Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend themselves?


No, I never said that.


You asked why he was raising money for a defense if he was innocent, implying that he shouldn't. "If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers?"

Because he wants to put up a vigorous defense, which you claim he is entitled to do.


You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.


You clearly implied it. Now admit your whole posit was stupid, and move on.


iBoaterer[_2_] April 10th 12 04:23 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article 14580661.2229.1334070975518.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:57:32 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20,
says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.


Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend themselves?


No, I never said that.


You asked why he was raising money for a defense if he was innocent, implying that he shouldn't. "If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers?"

Because he wants to put up a vigorous defense, which you claim he is entitled to do.


You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.


You clearly implied it. Now admit your whole posit was stupid, and move on.


Far from it. I'm sure you don't understand though, because FOX hasn't
told you to.

JustWait[_2_] April 10th 12 07:10 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/10/2012 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?


If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.


Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.


And right now the guy has a hit out on him, it ain't cheap to hide,
'specially when you are hiding from a whole administration and
presidential campaign...

iBoaterer[_2_] April 10th 12 07:33 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?


If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.


Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.


Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 10th 12 07:34 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article , says...

On 4/10/2012 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.


Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.


And right now the guy has a hit out on him, it ain't cheap to hide,
'specially when you are hiding from a whole administration and
presidential campaign...


You hide by starting up a for profit website????? And just WHO has this
"hit" on him?

Wayne.B April 10th 12 08:14 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.



Sure it is.


Nonsense.

Defending yourself in court is expensive and highly stressful.


[email protected] April 10th 12 08:50 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:49:00 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.


Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.


You also said, "...if a civil suit arises, and the people who sued him
lost, they'd have to pay his costs..." There is no guarantee
whatsoever, that the prevailing party will recover all or ANY of their
defense costs.

This really belongs in another thread, but I believe if it WERE true,
there would be a LOT less frivolous litigation.


Absolutely. Also, even when innocent and spending large amounts of money on your defense, there's still no guarantee that the verdict will come back in your favor. McDonald's coffee.

jps April 10th 12 09:33 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:10:52 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 4/10/2012 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.


Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.


And right now the guy has a hit out on him, it ain't cheap to hide,
'specially when you are hiding from a whole administration and
presidential campaign...


Oh, wow, Hannity couldn't have said it better.

Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 12 02:22 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 10/04/2012 7:39 AM, SunshineStateJim wrote:
On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


His lawyers want to be paid?


They won't get paid if he doesn't get charged.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 12 02:23 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 10/04/2012 8:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


His lawyers want to be paid?


If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.


Unfortunately there are no good men. Zimmerman is a victim.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 12 02:33 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?


So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.


Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend themselves?


No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.


No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.


Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.


--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

JustWait[_2_] April 11th 12 02:56 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.


Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?


No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.


No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.


Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...

thumper April 11th 12 04:20 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/10/2012 12:50 PM, wrote:

Also, even when innocent and spending large amounts of money on your defense,
there's still no guarantee that the verdict will come back in your favor.
McDonald's coffee.


That's not as clear as you might think.

http://www.hotcoffeethemovie.com/Default.asp

jps April 11th 12 05:13 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:56:12 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


You have to be the biggest conspiracy theorist in CT. Are you working
with Hannity on this ****?

Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 12 06:24 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 10/04/2012 7:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


On a rent-a-cop salary I doubt he can afford the lawyers. And without
charges, no money in it. Then the Black Panthers called them up, LE did
nothing, so might as well quit to live another day.

Watched a few videos on Black Panthers on YouTube, pretty obvious who
the racists really are. On the bigger picture, looks like race riots
for free TVs could erupt.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

X ` Man April 11th 12 11:50 AM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/10/12 9:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...



You guess? Reads more like you are channeling that Faux News nutcase,
Sean Hannity, or, even worse, Glen Beck. Does this craziness just pop
into your head or are you on psychotropic drugs or what?

You're pathetic.

JustWait[_2_] April 11th 12 12:30 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/2012 6:50 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/10/12 9:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...



You guess? Reads more like you are channeling that Faux News nutcase,
Sean Hannity, or, even worse, Glen Beck. Does this craziness just pop
into your head or are you on psychotropic drugs or what?

You're pathetic.


Lemme' see. You think it's ok to rape a little girl as young as ten
years old and take her across state lines to hide the crime, and you are
calling me pathetic? LOL! If you weren't such a disgusting old man, you
would almost be funny...

X ` Man[_3_] April 11th 12 12:54 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/12 7:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/11/2012 6:50 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/10/12 9:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully
working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...



You guess? Reads more like you are channeling that Faux News nutcase,
Sean Hannity, or, even worse, Glen Beck. Does this craziness just pop
into your head or are you on psychotropic drugs or what?

You're pathetic.


Lemme' see. You think it's ok to rape a little girl as young as ten
years old and take her across state lines to hide the crime, and you are
calling me pathetic? LOL! If you weren't such a disgusting old man, you
would almost be funny...



Actually, ****-for-brains, I don't think what you are attributing to me
is "ok." I think it is just another of your fantasies about me. I do
believe, however, that even very young girls who are raped and find
themselves pregnant should be allowed to terminate that pregnancy if
*they* wish, and not have its continuation forced upon them by parents
who are either bat**** crazy or overzealously religious. Further, if
their parents refuse, they should be able to have a court-appointed
public defender get a writ that allows the abortion. I don't believe a
full-term pregnancy should be forced upon any female who doesn't want it.

That's quite a bit different from what your pea-brain fantasizes, eh?



JustWait[_2_] April 11th 12 01:25 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/11/12 7:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/11/2012 6:50 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/10/12 9:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully
working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


You guess? Reads more like you are channeling that Faux News nutcase,
Sean Hannity, or, even worse, Glen Beck. Does this craziness just pop
into your head or are you on psychotropic drugs or what?

You're pathetic.


Lemme' see. You think it's ok to rape a little girl as young as ten
years old and take her across state lines to hide the crime, and you are
calling me pathetic? LOL! If you weren't such a disgusting old man, you
would almost be funny...



Actually, ****-for-brains, I don't thin

That's quite a bit different from what your pea-brain fantasizes, eh?



And quite different than what you said before... LOL!!! Sick puppy you
are...

X ` Man[_3_] April 11th 12 01:33 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/12 8:25 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/11/12 7:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/11/2012 6:50 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/10/12 9:56 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully
working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message
from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


You guess? Reads more like you are channeling that Faux News nutcase,
Sean Hannity, or, even worse, Glen Beck. Does this craziness just pop
into your head or are you on psychotropic drugs or what?

You're pathetic.

Lemme' see. You think it's ok to rape a little girl as young as ten
years old and take her across state lines to hide the crime, and you are
calling me pathetic? LOL! If you weren't such a disgusting old man, you
would almost be funny...



Actually, ****-for-brains, I don't thin

That's quite a bit different from what your pea-brain fantasizes, eh?



And quite different than what you said before... LOL!!! Sick puppy you
are...



No, it isn't, ****-for-brains. You'll find no post in which *I* state
what you claim. It's just more of your bat**** craziness.


Oscar April 11th 12 01:34 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.


Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?


No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.


No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.


Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



If he's smart he'll hire Jose Bias the miracle worker.

JustWait[_2_] April 11th 12 01:42 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/2012 8:34 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



If he's smart he'll hire Jose Bias the miracle worker.


Who do you think is gonna' want to represent him, with a US Justice Dept
sanctioned hit against Zimmerman out there? Remember, Zimmerman is
wanted dead or alive and the most racist administration in history, is
right there fanning the flames...

iBoaterer[_2_] April 11th 12 01:44 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.


Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.


You also said, "...if a civil suit arises, and the people who sued him
lost, they'd have to pay his costs..." There is no guarantee
whatsoever, that the prevailing party will recover all or ANY of their
defense costs.


But it is standard procedure.

..



iBoaterer[_2_] April 11th 12 01:44 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article 9770907.306.1334087405635.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynbv32, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:49:00 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.

Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.


You also said, "...if a civil suit arises, and the people who sued him
lost, they'd have to pay his costs..." There is no guarantee
whatsoever, that the prevailing party will recover all or ANY of their
defense costs.

This really belongs in another thread, but I believe if it WERE true,
there would be a LOT less frivolous litigation.


Absolutely. Also, even when innocent and spending large amounts of money on your defense, there's still no guarantee that the verdict will come back in your favor. McDonald's coffee.


Especially after his lawyers quit because of his stupidness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...yers-withdraw-
trayvon-martin-case/2012/04/10/gIQA09XG9S_story.html



iBoaterer[_2_] April 11th 12 01:48 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article , says...

On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20,
says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?


You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


That's just plain stupid. Did you even understand the reasons they quit?
The idiot Zimmerman actually pursued a meeting with the special
prosecutor on his own. The lawyers hadn't heard from him in days, he
actually talked to Hannity on his own without them knowing it and on and
on. If Zimmerman goes on the run, he'll be a fugitive from justice.

X ` Man[_3_] April 11th 12 01:50 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/12 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/11/2012 8:34 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



If he's smart he'll hire Jose Bias the miracle worker.


Who do you think is gonna' want to represent him, with a US Justice Dept
sanctioned hit against Zimmerman out there? Remember, Zimmerman is
wanted dead or alive and the most racist administration in history, is
right there fanning the flames...



Are you kidding? Criminal defense lawyers love to take on the
government, federal, state, or local. Perhaps in your world of people of
no accomplishment fear of the government is standard operating
procedure. No criminal attorney worth his or her salt is intimidated by
the Justice Department. And the Justice Department did not sanction a
"hit " on Zimmerman.

You're an ignorant, easily misled, psychotic asshole. Really. Get help.


JustWait[_2_] April 11th 12 01:55 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/2012 8:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article9770907.306.1334087405635.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynbv32, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:49:00 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.

Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.

You also said, "...if a civil suit arises, and the people who sued him
lost, they'd have to pay his costs..." There is no guarantee
whatsoever, that the prevailing party will recover all or ANY of their
defense costs.

This really belongs in another thread, but I believe if it WERE true,
there would be a LOT less frivolous litigation.


Absolutely. Also, even when innocent and spending large amounts of money on your defense, there's still no guarantee that the verdict will come back in your favor. McDonald's coffee.


Especially after his lawyers quit because of his stupidness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...yers-withdraw-
trayvon-martin-case/2012/04/10/gIQA09XG9S_story.html



Sure they did... snerk had nothing to do with the fact that anybody
involved will be hunted the rest of their lives... LOL!

X ` Man[_3_] April 11th 12 01:58 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/12 8:55 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/11/2012 8:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article9770907.306.1334087405635.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynbv32, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:49:00 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully
working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his
costs.

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.

Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.

You also said, "...if a civil suit arises, and the people who sued him
lost, they'd have to pay his costs..." There is no guarantee
whatsoever, that the prevailing party will recover all or ANY of their
defense costs.

This really belongs in another thread, but I believe if it WERE true,
there would be a LOT less frivolous litigation.

Absolutely. Also, even when innocent and spending large amounts of
money on your defense, there's still no guarantee that the verdict
will come back in your favor. McDonald's coffee.


Especially after his lawyers quit because of his stupidness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...yers-withdraw-
trayvon-martin-case/2012/04/10/gIQA09XG9S_story.html



Sure they did... snerk had nothing to do with the fact that anybody
involved will be hunted the rest of their lives... LOL!



You sure live in a strange little world, little toad man.

JustWait[_2_] April 11th 12 01:59 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/2012 8:48 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20,
says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


That's just plain stupid.


Yup, that's what you guys do when caught lying...snerk


Oscar April 11th 12 02:16 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11 And the Justice Department did not sanction a
"hit " on Zimmerman.


Prove it.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 11th 12 03:02 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article , says...

On 4/11/2012 8:34 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20,
says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



If he's smart he'll hire Jose Bias the miracle worker.


Who do you think is gonna' want to represent him, with a US Justice Dept
sanctioned hit against Zimmerman out there? Remember, Zimmerman is
wanted dead or alive and the most racist administration in history, is
right there fanning the flames...


I'm guessing you have some evidence that the Justice Dept. has a
"sanctioned hit against Zimmerman" right? Could you please post that?
Now, I'm not talking about IF it is found to be a hate crime, that's
different, they then would and should be involved. I'm going to guess
that you can't post any evidence of your above bull****, right?

iBoaterer[_2_] April 11th 12 03:17 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article , says...

On 4/11/2012 8:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article9770907.306.1334087405635.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynbv32,
says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:49:00 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:33:55 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:17:34 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 8:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

His lawyers want to be paid?

If it were a wash, why would he need lawyers? Also, if a civil suit
arises, and the people who sued him lost, they'd have to pay his costs.

Having to go to court, whether you are guilty as sin or completely
innocent, is NEVER a wash.

Sure it is. Notice, I specifically stated civil cases in with this.

You also said, "...if a civil suit arises, and the people who sued him
lost, they'd have to pay his costs..." There is no guarantee
whatsoever, that the prevailing party will recover all or ANY of their
defense costs.

This really belongs in another thread, but I believe if it WERE true,
there would be a LOT less frivolous litigation.

Absolutely. Also, even when innocent and spending large amounts of money on your defense, there's still no guarantee that the verdict will come back in your favor. McDonald's coffee.


Especially after his lawyers quit because of his stupidness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...yers-withdraw-
trayvon-martin-case/2012/04/10/gIQA09XG9S_story.html



Sure they did... snerk had nothing to do with the fact that anybody
involved will be hunted the rest of their lives... LOL!


Uh, did you even read the reasons why they quit?

iBoaterer[_2_] April 11th 12 03:18 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
In article , says...

On 4/11/2012 8:48 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20,
says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



His lawyers just walked away tonight. I guess they got the message from
Holder and the Injustice dept not going after the new black panther
terrorists, and they don't want to live the rest of their lives like
Zimmerman and his parents are gonna' have to, on the run...


That's just plain stupid.


Yup, that's what you guys do when caught lying...snerk


Well then show us some cites for your wild allegations.

jps April 11th 12 06:11 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:42:12 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 4/11/2012 8:34 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



If he's smart he'll hire Jose Bias the miracle worker.


Who do you think is gonna' want to represent him, with a US Justice Dept
sanctioned hit against Zimmerman out there? Remember, Zimmerman is
wanted dead or alive and the most racist administration in history, is
right there fanning the flames...


"US Justice Dept sanctioned hit" makes you look insane or stupid.

Is Holder a member of the Black Panther Party too?

X ` Man[_3_] April 11th 12 06:40 PM

So why did Zimmerman......
 
On 4/11/12 1:11 PM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:42:12 -0400,
wrote:

On 4/11/2012 8:34 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 4/10/2012 9:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2012 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article4814189.1595.1334069143835.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynuu20, says...

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:53 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
Start a website for the sole purpose of raising money for his
defense if
he is indeed the innocent person that the media is wrongfully working
over, according to FOX?

So last week your stance was that an innocent person should defend
themselves vigorously in the face of an attack.

Yes, I did.

Now you say if a person is indeed innocent, they shouldn't defend
themselves?

No, I never said that.

You are very confused. Or a flip-flopper.

No, because I never said that.

In any case, of course he's entitled to a defense. Even the guilty
are in our courts. Unless you believe he should be summarily
railroaded.

Ever hear of a public defender?

You don't get one until you are charged.



If he's smart he'll hire Jose Bias the miracle worker.


Who do you think is gonna' want to represent him, with a US Justice Dept
sanctioned hit against Zimmerman out there? Remember, Zimmerman is
wanted dead or alive and the most racist administration in history, is
right there fanning the flames...


"US Justice Dept sanctioned hit" makes you look insane or stupid.




He *is* both insane and stupid.


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