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Go big or economize?
On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote:
Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000 "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000 "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. I have always looked at those folks, the same way I would somebody holding a gun to my kids head... Just sayin'. |
Go big or economize?
On Apr 5, 9:38*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...ch&yr=2012&mak... "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Only an inconsiderate asshole would consider towing at 130%. If I was you I'd worry more about getting my family out of debt than what someone 'may or may not consider doing. Just sayin'.......... |
Go big or economize?
On Apr 5, 10:15*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...ch&yr=2012&mak... "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. I have always looked at those folks, the same way I would somebody holding a gun to my kids head... Just sayin'. Do you threaten to kill each & every one of them too? You must be a good example for the kiddies. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/5/2012 9:43 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 5, 9:38 pm, wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...ch&yr=2012&mak... "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Only an inconsiderate asshole would consider towing at 130%. If I was you I'd worry more about getting my family out of debt than what someone 'may or may not consider doing. Just sayin'.......... Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? |
Go big or economize?
On 4/5/2012 9:45 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 5, 10:15 pm, wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...ch&yr=2012&mak... "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. I have always looked at those folks, the same way I would somebody holding a gun to my kids head... Just sayin'. Do you threaten to kill each& every one of them too? You must be a good example for the kiddies. Is this what you live for... Mom must have been so proud of her little weasel... |
Go big or economize?
On Apr 5, 10:53*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 4/5/2012 9:45 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 10:15 pm, *wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, *wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, *wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North *wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy *wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy *wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat.... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble.... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...ch&yr=2012&mak... "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. I have always looked at those folks, the same way I would somebody holding a gun to my kids head... Just sayin'. Do you threaten to kill each& *every one of them too? You must be a good example for the kiddies. Is this what you live for... Mom must have been so proud of her little weasel... I'd love to talk to Inky and find out what went wrong. I'd bet $500. that you were adopted. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote:
Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? |
Go big or economize?
On 4/5/2012 10:14 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 5, 10:53 pm, wrote: On 4/5/2012 9:45 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 10:15 pm, wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...ch&yr=2012&mak... "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. I have always looked at those folks, the same way I would somebody holding a gun to my kids head... Just sayin'. Do you threaten to kill each& every one of them too? You must be a good example for the kiddies. Is this what you live for... Mom must have been so proud of her little weasel... I'd love to talk to Inky and find out what went wrong. I'd bet $500. that you were adopted. Why bet? That was established years ago and you brought it up right after Harry sent you the stalker reports. Are you really that hard up for money? |
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On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote:
On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? About as proud as him sitting there putting out the info he got from the stalker report... |
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On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote:
On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... |
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On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote:
On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? Oh, and watch how he reacts to this.. He will threaten to put out more info, and put out more info he feels will "get to" me, like the fact that I was adopted. Something I am not only, not ashamed of, but proud of and always have been, even in the 60's. But you can judge for yourself now that he has come back, nothing learned, nothing changed on his end... He came back a few weeks ago, shooting, and it was obvious he was here for nothing else, just like harry... |
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says... On 4/5/12 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:19:47 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000 "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. You're correct. But, the Highlander isn't much in the 'tower' world either! I can't see that the tow package has done much to really improve the handling characteristics of the Highlander. And, if one is willing to tow 130% of capacity, how much time do you think the fool would spend keeping the trailer brakes in working order? That would be insane. Considering the high speeds at which I've seen drivers towing huge boats and travel trailers down the Interstate, I wonder whether brake condition will be much of a factor in stopping. They aren't likely to stop before they smash into the cars in front of them. Never heard of trailer brakes, eh? |
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On Apr 5, 11:52*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... I realize time and reality don't mean much to you, but the exposing of your irresponsible behavior was a direct consequence of your repeated attempts to release personal information on me......and after numerous warnings. It also happened months ago...like last summer or fall. If you are so ashamed of your financial irresponsible behavior. Why don't you man up and do something about it? I recommend a haircut and a job. You'd feel much better about yourself. |
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On 4/6/2012 8:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... You like to put out personal information about others too, or at least try. You kicked and kicked until I broke.. too bad. I did pretty good for a while, you and harry turned it political as soon as you could... Now you mother****ed me over at FB, so **** off... |
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On 4/6/2012 8:20 AM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 5, 11:52 pm, wrote: On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... I realize time and reality don't mean much to you, but the exposing of your irresponsible behavior was a direct consequence of your repeated attempts to release personal information on me......and after numerous warnings. It also happened months ago...like last summer or fall. If you are so ashamed of your financial irresponsible behavior. Why don't you man up and do something about it? I recommend a haircut and a job. You'd feel much better about yourself. I am not ashamed of it, you are the one that thinks it gives you some kind of power over me... I have seen how you live, and trust me, you got nothing on us... |
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, says... On Apr 5, 11:52*pm, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... I realize time and reality don't mean much to you, but the exposing of your irresponsible behavior was a direct consequence of your repeated attempts to release personal information on me......and after numerous warnings. It also happened months ago...like last summer or fall. If you are so ashamed of your financial irresponsible behavior. Why don't you man up and do something about it? I recommend a haircut and a job. You'd feel much better about yourself. Karma's a bitch, eh Don? |
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In article , says...
On 4/6/2012 8:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... You like to put out personal information about others too, or at least try. You kicked and kicked until I broke.. too bad. I did pretty good for a while, you and harry turned it political as soon as you could... Now you mother****ed me over at FB, so **** off... I have NO clue what you are talking about, but that's not unusual. Most people don't when you rant like that. |
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On Apr 6, 10:31*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article e4acfc60-b5a9-40c4-a918- , says... On Apr 5, 11:52 pm, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him.... I realize time and reality don't mean much to you, but the exposing of your irresponsible behavior was a direct consequence of your repeated attempts to release personal information on me......and after numerous warnings. It also happened months ago...like last summer or fall. If you are so ashamed of your financial irresponsible behavior. Why don't you man up and do something about it? I recommend a haircut and a job. You'd feel much better about yourself. Karma's a bitch, eh Don? Sure is.. ask your bitchy little girlie-friend with the ponytail. |
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On 4/6/2012 9:32 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/6/2012 8:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... You like to put out personal information about others too, or at least try. You kicked and kicked until I broke.. too bad. I did pretty good for a while, you and harry turned it political as soon as you could... Now you mother****ed me over at FB, so **** off... I have NO clue what you are talking about, but that's not unusual. Most people don't when you rant like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah... man up and get off my back... |
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On 4/6/2012 9:33 AM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:31 am, wrote: In articlee4acfc60-b5a9-40c4-a918- , says... On Apr 5, 11:52 pm, wrote: On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... I realize time and reality don't mean much to you, but the exposing of your irresponsible behavior was a direct consequence of your repeated attempts to release personal information on me......and after numerous warnings. It also happened months ago...like last summer or fall. If you are so ashamed of your financial irresponsible behavior. Why don't you man up and do something about it? I recommend a haircut and a job. You'd feel much better about yourself. Karma's a bitch, eh Don? Sure is.. ask your bitchy little girlie-friend with the ponytail. attack, attack, attack, then cry like a vagina when someone says something back.... Go to hell pig.. |
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On 4/6/12 9:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/6/2012 8:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... You like to put out personal information about others too, or at least try. You kicked and kicked until I broke.. too bad. I did pretty good for a while, you and harry turned it political as soon as you could... Now you mother****ed me over at FB, so **** off... You broke? I thought you already were broken. And please explain with details and photos if you can how you got "mf'd" and what that even means. You short guys sure have colorful language. |
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On 4/6/2012 9:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/6/2012 8:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... You like to put out personal information about others too, or at least try. You kicked and kicked until I broke.. too bad. I did pretty good for a while, you and harry turned it political as soon as you could... Now you mother****ed me over at FB, so **** off... Why don't you do like they do and pretend you don't see their posts? |
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On Apr 6, 12:33*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 0978922e-977f-4859-b2f1-1277d1a24fb3@ 12g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 6, 10:31*am, iBoaterer wrote: In article e4acfc60-b5a9-40c4-a918- , says... On Apr 5, 11:52 pm, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 10:35 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:52 PM, JustWait wrote: Yeah, maybe you should have been paying attention to your mom in her last days, instead of stalking me... Did she die alone? Are you proud of that? It's true though.. While she was spending her last days, he was here trolling and slowly putting out personal and financial info pertaining to my family and myself... Trying like his buddy harry to silence opposition through threats and intimidation.. **** him, he should have been spending time with his mom, but Karma finally caught up with him... I realize time and reality don't mean much to you, but the exposing of your irresponsible behavior was a direct consequence of your repeated attempts to release personal information on me......and after numerous warnings. It also happened months ago...like last summer or fall. If you are so ashamed of your financial irresponsible behavior. Why don't you man up and do something about it? I recommend a haircut and a job. You'd feel much better about yourself. Karma's a bitch, eh Don? Sure is.. ask your bitchy little girlie-friend with the ponytail. Gee, your homosexual tendencies are showing again. Does that excite you, Kevin? BTW.. you are wrong again... but I guess you are used to hearing that. |
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X ` Man wrote:
On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. |
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Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote: On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm? Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry won't leave him. Damn shame. Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously have no real interest in boating. Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls. He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire. Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized: http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway. And, it takes one of these: http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009 to comfortably pull it. Nothing oversized anywhere! Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay! He's either jealous or a narcissist. Nice rigs - both of them! |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... |
Go big or economize?
On Apr 6, 10:12*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says.... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/2012 9:22 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:12 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. Keep tryin' bonnie, hope your gettin' paid. Hey, when your mom died, were you with her, or here whacking off to harry? |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. If Zimmerman was a dip**** loudmouth like our boy Harry, he'd be in jail right now for premeditated murder. Harry better pray that one of his gun fantasies doesn't come true. Just for giggles put Harry Krause and gun into a search engine. You will soon see how sick this dude is. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/12 8:54 PM, Earl wrote:
Happy John wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote: On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm? Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry won't leave him. Damn shame. Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously have no real interest in boating. Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls. He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire. Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized: http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway. And, it takes one of these: http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009 to comfortably pull it. Nothing oversized anywhere! Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay! He's either jealous or a narcissist. Nice rigs - both of them! Jealous of a racist with a big truck and a travel trailer? Why? |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/2012 9:40 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/6/12 8:54 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote: On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm? Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry won't leave him. Damn shame. Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously have no real interest in boating. Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls. He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire. Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized: http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway. And, it takes one of these: http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009 to comfortably pull it. Nothing oversized anywhere! Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay! He's either jealous or a narcissist. Nice rigs - both of them! Jealous of a racist with a big truck and a travel trailer? Why? Because he has a better boat and a better tow vehicle. Not to mention a better life like most of us you hate here... |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/12 9:50 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/6/2012 9:40 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/6/12 8:54 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote: On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm? Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry won't leave him. Damn shame. Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously have no real interest in boating. Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls. He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire. Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized: http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway. And, it takes one of these: http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009 to comfortably pull it. Nothing oversized anywhere! Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay! He's either jealous or a narcissist. Nice rigs - both of them! Jealous of a racist with a big truck and a travel trailer? Why? Because he has a better boat and a better tow vehicle. Not to mention a better life like most of us you hate here... Sorry, Little Toad, but I'm not impressed by Herring's truck, travel trailer or boat, or, in fact, anything about him. As for his life, he doesn't seem to do anything of consequence in his retirement. Boring. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/2012 9:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/6/12 9:50 PM, JustWait wrote: On 4/6/2012 9:40 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/6/12 8:54 PM, Earl wrote: Happy John wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:46:45 -0400, X ` wrote: On 4/5/12 7:39 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 5, 8:35 am, Happy wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:15:53 -0400, wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm? Donnie sometimes tries to show he can be sociable. But, I think he realizes that Harry doesn't approve, so he reverts back to his display of anti-social, immature,assholish behavior so Harry won't leave him. Damn shame. Why do you bother to darken the door of this newsgroup? You obviously have no real interest in boating. Thank God you'll soon be off fondling little white balls. He's got a new oversized travel trailer to tow behind his oversized truck. It's possible he'll drive right off the edge of the flat earth he and others of his extremist right-wing politics so admire. Oh, Harry...this isn't oversized: http://images.traderonline.com/img/3...mb_550x410.jpg It comfortably sleeps four. Actually, it's a little on the small side once the grandkids are thrown in. Luckily, they mostly prefer tents anyway. And, it takes one of these: http://l.yimg.com/dv/aic/chevrolet_t...ndard_box_2009 to comfortably pull it. Nothing oversized anywhere! Now, how big is that humongous trawler of yours? You know, the new one with the twin turbo diesels that you've taken ALL THE WAY across the Chesapeake Bay! He's either jealous or a narcissist. Nice rigs - both of them! Jealous of a racist with a big truck and a travel trailer? Why? Because he has a better boat and a better tow vehicle. Not to mention a better life like most of us you hate here... Sorry, Little Toad, but I'm not impressed by Herring's truck, travel trailer or boat, or, in fact, anything about him. As for his life, he doesn't seem to do anything of consequence in his retirement. Boring. Yeah right Nambla... |
Go big or economize?
On Apr 6, 10:28*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 4/6/2012 9:22 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 6, 10:12 pm, *wrote: On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, *wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star *wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North *wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy *wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy *wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500.., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from.. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. Keep tryin' bonnie, hope your gettin' paid. Hey, when your mom died, were you with her, or here whacking off to harry? Thanks for proving me right.... Once again. |
Go big or economize?
On 4/6/2012 11:38 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:28 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 9:22 PM, North Star wrote: On Apr 6, 10:12 pm, wrote: On 4/6/2012 8:52 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/5/12 8:47 AM, JustWait wrote: On 4/5/2012 8:18 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... You DID say that "it would cost him his life". Threats of killing someone, regardless whether it is a specific person or not should and usually are taken very seriously by law enforcement. So call the cops Kevin... be a good donnie... Wow. Our own little Leporello made it through another night. It's good, Snotty, that "the internets" allow a useless, worthless little **** like you to shoot off your mouth without much fear of being forced to pay a price for it. Whatever Harry, keep trolling, someday you will get your chance to shoot someone. Just hope it ain't some kid walking down the street... I'm not an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole like you, Snotty, so there is no chance I'll shoot someone walking down the street. Now, if an out-of-control, hate-mongering, right-wing asshole *broke* *into* *the* *house*, I'd not hesitate to empty a magazine into him. You should remember that. A tough talker. They are a dime a dozen. He's all talk... He's trying to get me to say something again, so he can call the cops again. Must be getting bored with his life. I am still passing these unsolicited trolls to his friends down there, if he ever does kill somebody, he won't get away with it... It sure doesn't take much to get a criminally insane wacko like you to say anything to incriminate yourself... the challenge is to get you to shut up. Keep tryin' bonnie, hope your gettin' paid. Hey, when your mom died, were you with her, or here whacking off to harry? Thanks for proving me right.... Once again. Lemme see, you jump in a conversation to say something nasty, and when someone says something back, you bitch like a vagina... |
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