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On 02/04/2012 6:09 PM, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Lame April Fools attempt. Lets hope. East coast in Canada? Maybe not. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
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On 03/04/2012 6:54 AM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:14:49 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? === Get a real man's truck? That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow 10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy. Then you can get a real boat, too. That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season.. Less than that. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
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On Apr 3, 4:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, *wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ |
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On Apr 3, 5:00*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 03/04/2012 6:54 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:14:49 -0400, Wayne B *wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star *wrote: Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? === Get a real man's truck? That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow 10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy. Then you can get a real boat, too. That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season.. Less than that. -- Maybe where you are, jackass. Our harbour is ice free year round. |
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wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. |
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Oscar wrote:
On 4/3/2012 8:55 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:15 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? === Get a real man's truck? But Rav4's are so pretty! You couldn't handle one, Kevin. Rav 4s are ladies cars. They are extremely popular with women - mostly young women from what I have seen. They, and the CRV, are the new soccer mom-mobiles. |
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Happy John wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000 |
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North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 11:14 am, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. I liked the size of the last generation of Highlander... just a bit bigger than the current RAV4. (new ones are too big) Our self service regular gas is $1.42 per liter... about $5.37 for your US gallon. Pays to 'think small'. Are there any boating clubs in your area? Something like this... http://freedomboatclub.com/ |
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Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/04/2012 6:09 PM, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Lame April Fools attempt. Lets hope. East coast in Canada? Maybe not. I really thought he was joking. Apparently he wasn't! |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, Earl wrote:
Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000 "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. |
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On Apr 3, 8:53*pm, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 11:14 am, Happy *wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North *wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy *wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy *wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. I liked the size of the last generation of Highlander... just a bit bigger than the current RAV4. *(new ones are too big) Our self service regular gas is $1.42 per liter... about $5.37 for your US gallon. Pays to 'think small'. Are there any boating clubs in your area? *Something like this... http://freedomboatclub.com/ Closest would be in Mass..... a 1.5 day drive for me. |
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On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... |
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. |
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On 4/4/12 1:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. As if it was hard to get one... |
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On 4/3/12 11:14 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Another in the ongoing series of "Big Mouth, No Balls" comments from the Little Toadman. |
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On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... You sure do like to threaten to kill people alot lately. |
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Go big or economize?
On Apr 4, 12:14*am, JustWait wrote:
On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. |
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On Apr 4, 7:32*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 4/4/12 1:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star *wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. As if it was hard to get one... The plan was to keep the handgun in the car glovebox. Is a concealed permit required for that? |
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On Apr 4, 9:39*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. It was bull****, unless the dude lived in the ghetto of Miami or some other large city ghetto. I wasn't there... but have no reason to doubt the lady. |
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In article 289904ed-6cab-42d2-8f45-28abe9b3c518
@l4g2000vbt.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 3, 4:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, *wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Speaking of "bitchslapped", Karma's a bitch, eh? |
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In article 785d3310-910b-4ddb-ac7f-89ea4e58f280@
12g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 4, 12:14*am, JustWait wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. You'd better watch it, you started that horse**** before, then Karma took care of you... |
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In article 2fe70660-5442-4d4a-a4ca-2f1dcb8f70b7
@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 4, 7:32*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 4/4/12 1:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star *wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. As if it was hard to get one... The plan was to keep the handgun in the car glovebox. Is a concealed permit required for that? Yes. |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:25:27 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote: The plan was to keep the handgun in the car glovebox. Is a concealed permit required for that? === Yes, unless it is locked up and not in an easily accessible place. It is unnecessary of course unless you plan to drive through the worst parts of Miami on a regular basis. However, if you go to some of the old Florida towns like Clewiston or Everglades City and act like a jackass it might be a good idea also. |
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On 4/3/2012 6:39 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Who? |
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On 4/3/2012 6:40 PM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 5:00 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:54 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:14:49 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? === Get a real man's truck? That's what I'm thinking, too. A full size Chevy 1500 4X4 will tow 10,000# and still get an unloaded 22 MPG on the Hwy. Then you can get a real boat, too. That seems like a big expense for a retired working class hero who enjoys a short 4-5 month boating season.. Less than that. -- Maybe where you are, jackass. Our harbour is ice free year round. When's the last time you floated your boat? |
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, *wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ What the hell does the political **** have to do with your boat question? ~~snerk~~ |
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On Apr 4, 8:24*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, *wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. *~~ snerk ~~ What the hell does the political **** have to do with your boat question? ~~snerk~~ It was a 'sporting event'... just like boating could be considered sporting. Your recipe parties... not so much. |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:30:07 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:24*pm, Happy John wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, *wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North *wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e * 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). *Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. *~~ snerk ~~ What the hell does the political **** have to do with your boat question? ~~snerk~~ It was a 'sporting event'... just like boating could be considered sporting. Your recipe parties... not so much. Harry will be proud of you, Donnie. |
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North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ Why drive this on-topic thread into a political ****storm? |
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Happy John wrote:
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:41:40 -0400, wrote: Happy John wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. 5000# with the towing package: http://trailerboats.com/towrating/in...x_tlimit=10000 "That wasn't around when my wife got her Highlander. It appears as though an optional towing package raises the tow rating to 5000lbs. Here is what the tow package contains: V6 Towing Prep Package [14] -- includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator/ That sounds pretty good, but it doesn't do much to help braking. I'd be afraid of getting shoved down the road by my trailer if I had 5000lbs pushing me. Of course, trailer brakes would be mandatory at that weight, but I wouldn't trust those buggers a whole lot either. 5000# isn't that much in the towing world. The trailer brakes are assumed to be working, I'm sure. |
Go big or economize?
North Star wrote:
On Apr 3, 8:53 pm, wrote: North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 11:14 am, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. Moving up to a used V6 Highlander might be the way to go. Towing capacity's up around 3500lbs, I believe. Probably get a decent trade-in. With gas prices where they are you'd probably get a pretty decent price for the Rav4. I liked the size of the last generation of Highlander... just a bit bigger than the current RAV4. (new ones are too big) Our self service regular gas is $1.42 per liter... about $5.37 for your US gallon. Pays to 'think small'. Are there any boating clubs in your area? Something like this... http://freedomboatclub.com/ Closest would be in Mass..... a 1.5 day drive for me. That was an example. Search your area, they may have them closer. |
Go big or economize?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. You don't need a concealed carry permit to legally have a gun in your car in many states. |
Go big or economize?
North Star wrote:
On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. |
Go big or economize?
North Star wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:32 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 4/4/12 1:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. As if it was hard to get one... The plan was to keep the handgun in the car glovebox. Is a concealed permit required for that? Not if it's in a holster. They have some sort of three-step rule. The glove box would be one, the safety on the gun another, and the snapped holster #3. I'm not sure how they came up with that. |
Go big or economize?
iBoaterer wrote:
In article2fe70660-5442-4d4a-a4ca-2f1dcb8f70b7 @h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 4, 7:32 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 4/4/12 1:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:22:49 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: True story... a working mate of my wife was visiting friends in Florida. The host insisted that the Halifax lady's boyfriend 'borrow' his handgun if he planned on driving around on his own. === Not a good idea without a Florida Concealed Carry Permit. As if it was hard to get one... The plan was to keep the handgun in the car glovebox. Is a concealed permit required for that? Yes. Not in FL. |
Go big or economize?
North Star wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:24 pm, Happy wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 3, 4:56 pm, wrote: On 03/04/2012 6:56 AM, North Star wrote: On Apr 3, 9:14 am, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. Let him go, he already knows the results of bad Karma! At least I haven't been run out of my home province by family members, kevin. Disowned then? Running at 150% of ratings is retarded stupid. -- Speaking of stupid...did you watch that Conservative Senator get bitchslapped by Liberal MP Justin Trudeau? It was like an early Easter present. ~~ snerk ~~ What the hell does the political **** have to do with your boat question? ~~snerk~~ It was a 'sporting event'... just like boating could be considered sporting. Your recipe parties... not so much. What? |
Go big or economize?
On 4/4/2012 8:24 PM, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote: On Apr 4, 12:14 am, wrote: On 4/3/2012 7:36 PM, Earl wrote: wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Apr 2, 10:14 pm, North wrote: On Apr 2, 8:32 pm, Happy wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Apr 2, 6:44 pm, Happy wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:36:57 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: I was pretty well settled on a new 'Legend 15 AllSport' due to my 4 cyl RAV4's low tow rating of 1500 lbs. Lately I've been looking at the construction methods used in this model and the superior methods used in a higher class boat... the 'Legend 16 Xcalibre' For an additional $3400. + add'l taxes of about $500., I can upgrade to a bigger, heavier boat with a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury vs the 40hp I was planning on with the smaller boat. Besides the additional cost of about $3900... I would be overloading my tow capacity by 500 lbs... about 33% more than the RAV4 is rated for. i.e 2000 lbs vs about 1300 for the smaller boat. What to do? I can drop a few pounds by keeping the gas tank empty until I reach my destination.. and not loading much into the bigger boat... and by towing at a 90km speed (55 mph). Am I asking for trouble... sure do like all the extra options.. such as bigger motor, stronger construction, bigger boat for about 80% use on the ocean, instruments and a built in swim platform/ladder. see the windshield models on the website.. http://legendboats.com/ Pulling a load of over 150% of your rated capacity would be simply stupid. Hard to believe you asked the question. What the %$^&^%? I thought you claimed to be a math teacher? I figure it as roughly 133% Multiply 1300 times 1.50 (150%) and see what you get. 1st you have to tell me where the 1300 figure comes from. Never mind...I see you took the 15 AllSport's weight to be my vehicle's tow rating... it's not! The 4 cyl RAV4 is rated for 1500 lbs. At this point i have the local dealer saying no.. I can't handle the bigger boat and a rep from the manufacturers site saying that people he knows are doing it. If I remember correctly... a safe tow is actually only 80% of your vehicle's rating... that would be a puny 1200 lbs. Guess I should have purchased the V6 version of the RAV4.... mmm wonder what deals Toyota is offering these days. I have about 20K on my 3 year old 'truck' .... might be time to trade up. I frequently see people towing as much as 400% to 500% of vehicle rating, but that is very FLAT land with no curves or stops and the tow does not exceed ONE mile. There are other ramp issues and the ability to see the tow when turning, too.... A normal tow usage would be up to the manufacturers rating, but not over. The further under the manufacturers rating the easier the tow. General towing at 133% or 150% would be suicide and would likely result in a citation for careless and reckless, etc. Get a REAL tow vehicle and protect yourself, your family, and others. Insurance may not cover you in the event of an accident. If someone was killed as a result of this negligence, it would be costly. If it was my family member, it would cost him his life... Are you threatening to 'kill someone', MidgetMan? Might be time to update the South Windsor Police to your criminally insane activities. What are YOU reading? There was no specific "someone" mentioned. The cops here are aware of his history of stalking and false accusations... I could tell they were annoyed at him last time he made them come here. Harry is a coward, seeking attention, then when he gets it he cries like his drunken dad had him bent over a work bench again... |
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