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Oscar April 3rd 12 01:01 PM
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On 4/3/2012 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
In , lid says...

On 4/2/2012 2:39 PM, BAR wrote:
In , lid says...

I didn't question that. Your original statement questioned why there
would be a 2nd amendment at all if not for *self* defense. Explicit in
the amendment itself is the answer... "a well regulated militia being
necessary to the security of a free state".

It is there to ensure that the states can defend themselves and
individuals can defend themselves.

"*a* free state", clearly meaning the nation, and nothing whatsoever
about self defense... I think we've exhausted the discussion. If you
don't want to admit the obvious that's cool. ;)

"a free state" clearly means one of the several states that are so often
referred to in the US Constitution.

By the way, I respect you for your stated opinion on Zimmerman's
responsibilities.

What are you talking about? All I have ever said is that Zimmerman
instigated the entire episode by getting out of his car. I never said
Zimmerman was responsible for anything nor have I said that Martin is
responsible for anything. What I will say is you have a wannabe cop in
Zimmereman encountering a wannabe criminal and thug in Martin and the
result is that Martin is dead.

Getting out of the car led to a chain of events that neither the vic. or
accused would have anticipated or desired. Everyone except the media,
the Brady bunch, and those who make their living on racial disorder is
saddened by the incident and what followed.
You can argue what the 2nd implies till the cows come home and won't
reach a consensus, so why bother. It's like arguing with Harry, who
seems to be reading from a script. *You can't get through to him*

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Happy John April 3rd 12 03:22 PM
A call for tourists to avoid Florida...
 
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:49:44 -0700, thumper wrote:

On 4/2/2012 2:39 PM, BAR wrote:
In , lid says...

I didn't question that. Your original statement questioned why there
would be a 2nd amendment at all if not for *self* defense. Explicit in
the amendment itself is the answer... "a well regulated militia being
necessary to the security of a free state".

It is there to ensure that the states can defend themselves and
individuals can defend themselves.

"*a* free state", clearly meaning the nation, and nothing whatsoever
about self defense... I think we've exhausted the discussion. If you
don't want to admit the obvious that's cool. ;)

By the way, I respect you for your stated opinion on Zimmerman's
responsibilities.

Why would a 'free state' mean the 'nation'? Surely the authors would have used the word 'nation' if
that was there intent. States were in existence at the time.

Happy John April 3rd 12 03:24 PM
A call for tourists to avoid Florida...
 
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:22:10 -0400, Happy John wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:49:44 -0700, thumper wrote:

On 4/2/2012 2:39 PM, BAR wrote:
In , lid says...

I didn't question that. Your original statement questioned why there
would be a 2nd amendment at all if not for *self* defense. Explicit in
the amendment itself is the answer... "a well regulated militia being
necessary to the security of a free state".

It is there to ensure that the states can defend themselves and
individuals can defend themselves.

"*a* free state", clearly meaning the nation, and nothing whatsoever
about self defense... I think we've exhausted the discussion. If you
don't want to admit the obvious that's cool. ;)

By the way, I respect you for your stated opinion on Zimmerman's
responsibilities.

Why would a 'free state' mean the 'nation'? Surely the authors would have used the word 'nation' if
that was there intent. States were in existence at the time.

'their' intent. Wow, that was bad.


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