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Told you the Volt was dead...
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5.com says... On 3/4/2012 10:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In b.com, says... On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 10:36:10 -0500, wrote: In , says... http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012...g-the-plug-on- a-government-funded-electric-lemon/ Told you, and you laughed...snerk Sometimes it pays to look at the world with an open mind... Has nothing to do with the technology and everything to do with the sales. Snake oil doesn't sell well in The good old USA By the way, you sound a teensy bit more masculine than you did when you posted as plume. Which leads to the question. Are you male, female, or something else? Hint for the misinformed: I never posted as "plume". If you stop using phrases that, plume exclusively, uses, you might be believed. Cite? |
What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
On 3/5/12 1:44 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:33:35 -0500, wrote: On 3/5/2012 11:03 AM, Happy John wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:51:10 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:19:14 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 3/5/12 9:12 AM, Happy John wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:33:12 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:20:52 -0500, Happy wrote: On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 21:57:19 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:48:21 -0500, wrote: They said they were gonna' do it. I know most of you here aren't bothered by the price of gas, but that nearly 75 extra dollars a week we are spending is killing us.... === I think everyone is affected by the price of gas to one extent or another. My suggestion to people who do a lot of driving is to get a more fuel efficient vehicle if at all possible. My truck is getting expensive at $80+ per fill up. I find it very strange that we don't have the large variety of small, fuel efficient diesels like they do in Europe. My gut feel is that it is yet another head-in-the-sand Detroit issue. Last year we drove a full size Volkswagon diesel van through the mountains of France, Switzerland and northern Italy. It had plenty of power, seating for 6 adults, and a huge amount of luggage space. Average fuel economy was better than 20 mpg. Good point. If the VW diesel van had not been withdrawn from the US market, that's probably what we'd have been doing our camping in. Of course, the Mercedes Sprinter is available, but they ain't cheap. What you just bought is way more beterer :-) Well, it's definitely roomierer! Lots of room to store a spare 500-gallon fuel tank? :) Seriously, what sort of mileage do you anticipate? I hope you get at least 10 mpg. I'd be tickled pink if my barge got even close to 10 MPG. I expect to get about 12-14 with the trailer. I'm considering one of these, but don't know if they're worthwhile: http://www.bullydog.com/product.php?ID=2 I think I'll start a separate thread to see if anyone knows anything about them. And, BTW, I don't think Harry can ask something serious, which is why I responded to you. If that thing can get your engine to open it's mouth wider it might be worth the 600 bucks. Otherwise dunno what you can do. A few of the camping forum guys recommend getting the smog crap off the engine. But, they don't get specific enough. You mean, break the law? |
What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
On 3/5/12 2:18 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/5/2012 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 13:33:35 -0500, wrote: On 3/5/2012 11:03 AM, Happy John wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:51:10 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:19:14 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 3/5/12 9:12 AM, Happy John wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:33:12 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:20:52 -0500, Happy wrote: On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 21:57:19 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:48:21 -0500, wrote: They said they were gonna' do it. I know most of you here aren't bothered by the price of gas, but that nearly 75 extra dollars a week we are spending is killing us.... === I think everyone is affected by the price of gas to one extent or another. My suggestion to people who do a lot of driving is to get a more fuel efficient vehicle if at all possible. My truck is getting expensive at $80+ per fill up. I find it very strange that we don't have the large variety of small, fuel efficient diesels like they do in Europe. My gut feel is that it is yet another head-in-the-sand Detroit issue. Last year we drove a full size Volkswagon diesel van through the mountains of France, Switzerland and northern Italy. It had plenty of power, seating for 6 adults, and a huge amount of luggage space. Average fuel economy was better than 20 mpg. Good point. If the VW diesel van had not been withdrawn from the US market, that's probably what we'd have been doing our camping in. Of course, the Mercedes Sprinter is available, but they ain't cheap. What you just bought is way more beterer :-) Well, it's definitely roomierer! Lots of room to store a spare 500-gallon fuel tank? :) Seriously, what sort of mileage do you anticipate? I hope you get at least 10 mpg. I'd be tickled pink if my barge got even close to 10 MPG. I expect to get about 12-14 with the trailer. I'm considering one of these, but don't know if they're worthwhile: http://www.bullydog.com/product.php?ID=2 I think I'll start a separate thread to see if anyone knows anything about them. And, BTW, I don't think Harry can ask something serious, which is why I responded to you. If that thing can get your engine to open it's mouth wider it might be worth the 600 bucks. Otherwise dunno what you can do. A few of the camping forum guys recommend getting the smog crap off the engine. But, they don't get specific enough. You'll void any warranty you have doing that. IIRC, it's a federal rap too.... Maybe that's just if a garage does it... What would Rush do? |
What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
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Told you the Volt was dead...
On 3/5/2012 2:00 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In raweb.com, 5@ 5.com says... On 3/4/2012 10:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In b.com, says... On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 10:36:10 -0500, wrote: In , says... http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012...g-the-plug-on- a-government-funded-electric-lemon/ Told you, and you laughed...snerk Sometimes it pays to look at the world with an open mind... Has nothing to do with the technology and everything to do with the sales. Snake oil doesn't sell well in The good old USA By the way, you sound a teensy bit more masculine than you did when you posted as plume. Which leads to the question. Are you male, female, or something else? Hint for the misinformed: I never posted as "plume". If you stop using phrases that, plume exclusively, uses, you might be believed. Cite? Yup. That's one. -- O M G |
What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
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What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
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What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
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says... In article , says... In article , says... On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:48:21 -0500, JustWait wrote: They said they were gonna' do it. I know most of you here aren't bothered by the price of gas, but that nearly 75 extra dollars a week we are spending is killing us.... === I think everyone is affected by the price of gas to one extent or another. My suggestion to people who do a lot of driving is to get a more fuel efficient vehicle if at all possible. My truck is getting expensive at $80+ per fill up. I find it very strange that we don't have the large variety of small, fuel efficient diesels like they do in Europe. My gut feel is that it is yet another head-in-the-sand Detroit issue. Last year we drove a full size Volkswagon diesel van through the mountains of France, Switzerland and northern Italy. It had plenty of power, seating for 6 adults, and a huge amount of luggage space. Average fuel economy was better than 20 mpg. Is it cheaper to continue to drive the gas guzzler or is it cheaper to acquire a fuel efficient vehicle. Where is the break-even point? New technology bad.....FOX tell me..... Me scared..... I have a 11 year old vehicle that costs me $200 a year in insurance and gets 20 MPG on the highway. Let's say I drive burn 20 gallons a month ,in the vehicle whicih about right, at $5 a gallon. This is about $1,400 dollars a year for operating costs. Throw in an oil change once a year and you get $1,500 rounded off. How long is it going to take to recover the cost of a new vehicle? Your problem is that you don't look at the economics of the situation. It has nothing to do with technology it has to do with my wallet. |
Told you the Volt was dead...
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says... In article , says... On 3/5/2012 6:12 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 10:00:39 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: What about that coal or oil fired generating plant? === Oil fired plants are becoming very uncommon as more and more of them have converted to natural gas. Coal is being phased out everywhere in the US. Petroleum is becoming a transportation fuel as opposed to a stationary power plant fuel. Natural gas will eventually become a transportation fuel also. Coal is not being phased out, it is being forced out by regulation. The idea is to raise the prices so much, "green' energy seems competitive... Cite? You are blind or stupid, take your pick. |
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