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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get it Home Depot?
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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get itHome Depot?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:07:23 -0500, wrote: The THWN I used was stranded and I used silicone filled wirenuts where the lights connected in a water tight box. === Rather than using wirenuts I'd recommend crimped butt splices covered with heat shrink tubing. Or liquid electrical tape - that's some good stuff for places where the tubing isn't an option. I have used both in some cases just because I have both in my shop. |
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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get it Home Depot?
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says... On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:18:27 -0500, wrote: Rather than using wirenuts I'd recommend crimped butt splices covered with heat shrink tubing. If you don't fill that heat shrink with silicone first, there is nothing to keep the water out. Heat shrink is far from water proof. === Understood, but the better grades of heat shrink have glue inside which melts and seals things up. http://www.google.com/products?q=glue+filled+heat+shrink+tubing&hl=en I have used heat shrink with silicone in it for years over a soldered connection. The wirenut thing was just an experiment but I have to say it does work, with the advantage that you can open up and restore the connection if you need to without any special tools. These are in a water tight box so it is fairly well protected but you can bury these things in the ground (essentially underwater) with up to 600 volts on them and a ground fault interrupter will usually hold. These are not your typical Ideal #74 nuts. Personally, I just never quibble with a connection that's lasted 25 years. If it fails next year, let me know. Then I'll tell you what you did wrong. |
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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get it Home Depot?
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:26:11 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:18:27 -0500, wrote: Rather than using wirenuts I'd recommend crimped butt splices covered with heat shrink tubing. If you don't fill that heat shrink with silicone first, there is nothing to keep the water out. Heat shrink is far from water proof. === Understood, but the better grades of heat shrink have glue inside which melts and seals things up. http://www.google.com/products?q=glue+filled+heat+shrink+tubing&hl=en I have used heat shrink with silicone in it for years over a soldered connection. The wirenut thing was just an experiment but I have to say it does work, with the advantage that you can open up and restore the connection if you need to without any special tools. These are in a water tight box so it is fairly well protected but you can bury these things in the ground (essentially underwater) with up to 600 volts on them and a ground fault interrupter will usually hold. These are not your typical Ideal #74 nuts. === Where do you get them? |
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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get it Home Depot?
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says... On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:26:11 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:18:27 -0500, wrote: Rather than using wirenuts I'd recommend crimped butt splices covered with heat shrink tubing. If you don't fill that heat shrink with silicone first, there is nothing to keep the water out. Heat shrink is far from water proof. === Understood, but the better grades of heat shrink have glue inside which melts and seals things up. http://www.google.com/products?q=glue+filled+heat+shrink+tubing&hl=en I have used heat shrink with silicone in it for years over a soldered connection. The wirenut thing was just an experiment but I have to say it does work, with the advantage that you can open up and restore the connection if you need to without any special tools. These are in a water tight box so it is fairly well protected but you can bury these things in the ground (essentially underwater) with up to 600 volts on them and a ground fault interrupter will usually hold. These are not your typical Ideal #74 nuts. === Where do you get them? My Home Depot has them. Look in the low voltage area. |
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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get it Home Depot?
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:02:56 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:26:11 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:18:27 -0500, wrote: Rather than using wirenuts I'd recommend crimped butt splices covered with heat shrink tubing. If you don't fill that heat shrink with silicone first, there is nothing to keep the water out. Heat shrink is far from water proof. === Understood, but the better grades of heat shrink have glue inside which melts and seals things up. http://www.google.com/products?q=glue+filled+heat+shrink+tubing&hl=en I have used heat shrink with silicone in it for years over a soldered connection. The wirenut thing was just an experiment but I have to say it does work, with the advantage that you can open up and restore the connection if you need to without any special tools. These are in a water tight box so it is fairly well protected but you can bury these things in the ground (essentially underwater) with up to 600 volts on them and a ground fault interrupter will usually hold. These are not your typical Ideal #74 nuts. === Where do you get them? I imagine you can get them at Home Depot but I got mine from Graybar. It is a 3M style skirted wirenut packed with silicone gel. I imagine you get the same effect with a regular skirted nut and gel from a tube. I like Dow 111 for stuff like this and also for sealing up joints in plumbing (what it is sold for.) ---------------------------------------------- couple years ago, my phone system was bad. could hear talk from the 2nd line. When the repair guy fixed the connectors at the sidewalk he used a gel pack around the crimped connection. Said worked much better than the old gel filled wire nuts. Was a bigger baggie of gel, but do not remember how it was actually installed. |
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What's so good about marine wire that I shouldn't just get it Home Depot?
In article ,
says... On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:18:27 -0500, wrote: Rather than using wirenuts I'd recommend crimped butt splices covered with heat shrink tubing. If you don't fill that heat shrink with silicone first, there is nothing to keep the water out. Heat shrink is far from water proof. === Understood, but the better grades of heat shrink have glue inside which melts and seals things up. http://www.google.com/products?q=glue+filled+heat+shrink+tubing&hl=en I have used heat shrink with silicone in it for years over a soldered connection. The wirenut thing was just an experiment but I have to say it does work, with the advantage that you can open up and restore the connection if you need to without any special tools. These are in a water tight box so it is fairly well protected but you can bury these things in the ground (essentially underwater) with up to 600 volts on them and a ground fault interrupter will usually hold. These are not your typical Ideal #74 nuts. Sure, they use those same wirenuts buried, without conduit! |
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