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On Jan 2, 11:11*pm, JustWait wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle

Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around
probably 1970 or so... *Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!


"Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see
something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe
that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet.
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On Jan 3, 6:32*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/2/12 11:11 PM, JustWait wrote:

the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle


Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around
probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!


Hallett made some boats that might fit that description back in the
1970s, but I don't recall any boats in the length you remember with a
pair of 454's. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning how you'd cram
them into a small hull of that length. Could it have been one 454 with
dual blowers?


Not even that would work.
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On Jan 3, 9:47*am, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 1/2/2012 11:26 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 2, 10:11 pm, *wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle


Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around
probably 1970 or so... *Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!


two heavily armed 454's in a 17' boat? *was it prop or jet drive?


Did chrysler make a 454?


Not that I know of, 454's were GM.


Olds made a 455. They also used 350 rocket engines. My friend
currently has a Jet Boat with a 350 Olds engine in it.
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On 1/4/2012 7:13 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 3, 6:32 am, X ` wrote:
On 1/2/12 11:11 PM, JustWait wrote:

the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle


Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around
probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!


Hallett made some boats that might fit that description back in the
1970s, but I don't recall any boats in the length you remember with a
pair of 454's. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning how you'd cram
them into a small hull of that length. Could it have been one 454 with
dual blowers?


Not even that would work.


Well, it did work. I spend a couple summers in that boat...
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On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle

Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around
probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!


"Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see
something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe
that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet.


This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built
dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I
remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft
the next season and they were parked next to each other.

Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the
phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers...


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On 1/4/12 7:28 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle

Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around
probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!


"Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see
something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe
that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet.


This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built
dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I
remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft
the next season and they were parked next to each other.

Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the
phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers...



The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and
rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described
is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had
to weigh at least around 600 pounds each.
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On 1/4/2012 7:51 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/4/12 7:28 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone
(batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very
elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile
too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle

Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new
around
probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!

"Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see
something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe
that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet.


This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built
dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I
remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft
the next season and they were parked next to each other.

Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the
phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers...



The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and
rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described
is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had
to weigh at least around 600 pounds each.


Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations
for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The
one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not
have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or
cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were
350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a
throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy
though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would
probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats
every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller
than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26
feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin...
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On 1/4/12 8:13 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:51 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/4/12 7:28 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet
long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone
(batmobile
type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very
elaborate,
like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile
too,
the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the
Batmobile..
but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the
sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle

Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see
how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new
around
probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any
info
available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to
tell me it wasn't only a dream? Thanks, LOL!

"Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see
something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe
that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet.

This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built
dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I
remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft
the next season and they were parked next to each other.

Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the
phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers...



The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and
rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described
is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had
to weigh at least around 600 pounds each.


Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations
for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The
one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not
have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or
cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were
350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a
throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy
though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would
probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats
every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller
than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26
feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin...



I'm not doubting what you are saying, I'm just a bit overwhelmed by
the physics that had to be involved keeping that small boat together and
on rather than under the surface. The 350s wouldn't have been that much
narrower or lighter than the larger engines.

A throttle pedal on a strong "dead man's spring" would have made sense,
since it would have taken both hands on the wheel at all times to
control that tiny boat at speed. My father built a utility racing boat
in the early 1950's that was 13' long, weighed next to nothing and was
powered by a hopped up Evinrude 50 from the late 1940's, or somewhere
around there. It was very fast, but pretty much unusable on LI Sound
because it didn't get along with the chop. We took it up to Lake Zoar
and Lake Candlewood a few times. He never let me drive it. Hell, my
mother wouldn't even let me go out in the boat with my dad if she was
around to watch. The boat had a floor pedal throttle.
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:13:06 -0500, JustWait
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The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and
rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described
is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had
to weigh at least around 600 pounds each.


Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations
for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The
one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not
have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or
cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were
350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a
throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy
though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would
probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats
every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller
than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26
feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin...


The maximum trailerable beam is 102 inches, a spec which most boats
under 24 feet or so comply with. I've seem a few 24 footers with
twin 350s and you can barely work on the engines, don't see how you
could cram them into an 18 footer unless it was unusually wide. I
believe 454s would be totally impossible. With transmission, a
typical 454 goes around 1,000 lbs plus or minus, and is something like
6 to 8 inches wider than a 350 if memory serves.

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On 1/4/2012 12:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:13:06 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and
rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described
is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had
to weigh at least around 600 pounds each.


Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations
for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The
one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not
have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or
cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were
350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a
throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy
though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would
probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats
every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller
than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26
feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin...


The maximum trailerable beam is 102 inches, a spec which most boats
under 24 feet or so comply with. I've seem a few 24 footers with
twin 350s and you can barely work on the engines, don't see how you
could cram them into an 18 footer unless it was unusually wide. I
believe 454s would be totally impossible. With transmission, a
typical 454 goes around 1,000 lbs plus or minus, and is something like
6 to 8 inches wider than a 350 if memory serves.


Well, like I said, they could have been smaller engines but there were
two and we towed it, and it was smaller than the towable 22-24 foot
starcraft type aluminum they towed...
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