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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Jan 1, 10:30*am, Oscar wrote:
On 1/1/2012 9:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article0d345b13-1b0b-418d-b294- , says... On Dec 31, 10:41 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 12/31/11 9:33 AM, wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:09:36 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want things not listed. So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability, it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook. I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the features that meet your requirements. If you like to read books and magazines on a small computer screen, the Kindles and similar readers are ok. I still prefer reading books the "traditional" way, although I did read an entire "beach" novel on my laptop the last time I flew cross country. It was ok. The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway. On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass. I don't have a 4G cell or tablet, so I can't compare its speeds to Wi-Fi. When I'm away from Wi-Fi, 3G speed is more than adequate for my needs. I don't "net surf" very much on my cell phone, and the other apps - emails, messages, et cetera, seem fast enough on 3G when Wi-Fi is not available. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My #2 son gave us a Blackberry Playbook for Christmas. When I bundled our phone/internet/cable tv services last summer, I lost my Wi-Fi modem. I had to call and schedule my service provider to come in on the 3rd of January to swap out the basic modem for one capable of Wi-Fi. It was no big deal up till now because the only one using that feature ws my #1 son on his infrequent visits from Toronto. I probably wouldn't have bought a playbook myself, but now that I have one I'm anxious to see what it can do. I'll tell you one thing...the 3 meg front camera and the 5 meg back camera are limited for indoor use on a dark day. *It claims to have 1080i video.... whick is ok outside in the bright light. Also got an iPod Nano for Christmas.. so I had to visit a nearby audio store earlier this week to pick up a new pair of Grado headphones. Good grief..they cost as much as the iPod but do have a nice sound. (supplied 'bud style' headphones sounded crappy& *fit worse) All you had to do is buy a $15 wireless router. Why buy something when you can pay an installation fee and lease it forever?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry...no installation fee and I get the 1st 12 months rental 'free'. After that, it'll be $3.00 per month. I'll decide what to do them... maybe switch over to a competitor who now offers fibre optics. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/1/2012 2:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:54:48 -0500, wrote: If I were not buying an iPad, I'd be taking a serious look at the Galazy: http://tinyurl.com/7cmqhlf My wife has one and she is happy with it. === Does it have a built in GPS? My thrive has one. It seems a little slow to lock on to satellites compared to Garmin. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
Wife and I did a bit of a road trip today, I drove and she took her
kindle fire. She read the thing the whole way and back. I really liked it because now she doesn't tell me how to drive.... It's already paid for itself!!!! |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 18:55:38 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: Wife and I did a bit of a road trip today, I drove and she took her kindle fire. She read the thing the whole way and back. I really liked it because now she doesn't tell me how to drive.... It's already paid for itself!!!! wife got me a pandigital tablet...wifi, kindle, android OS...works great. paid about $200. nice color screen...beautiful and very useful if you have wifi |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Jan 1, 10:05*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 18:55:38 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Wife and I did a bit of a road trip today, I drove and she took her kindle fire. She read the thing the whole way and back. I really liked it because now she doesn't tell me how to drive.... It's already paid for itself!!!! wife got me a pandigital tablet...wifi, kindle, android OS...works great. paid about $200. nice color screen...beautiful and very useful if you have wifi yup. Her Kindle has the wifi. Don't think this this is android though. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/1/12 11:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:05 pm, wrote: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 18:55:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: Wife and I did a bit of a road trip today, I drove and she took her kindle fire. She read the thing the whole way and back. I really liked it because now she doesn't tell me how to drive.... It's already paid for itself!!!! wife got me a pandigital tablet...wifi, kindle, android OS...works great. paid about $200. nice color screen...beautiful and very useful if you have wifi yup. Her Kindle has the wifi. Don't think this this is android though. I thought I read somewhere that the Kindle OS and the Android OS were both based on Linux kernals? Maybe not. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/1/12 11:41 PM, Tim wrote: yup. Her Kindle has the wifi. Don't think this this is android though. Kindle fire is Android based. There is Amazon app store. I don't know if the entire Google app store is available but it should be easy enough for Tim to find out. One thing I've noticed is that the latest codecs for the new hi def cameras weren't included with either my Archos or Toshiba tablets. If Tim finds that true with the Fire, the easiest solution is to install one of the many free players that work. There are a lot of good free apps as well as terrible ones. Make sure you install a good Antivirus before you start playing around,Tim. |
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:16:13 -0500, Oscar wrote:
On 1/1/12 11:41 PM, Tim wrote: yup. Her Kindle has the wifi. Don't think this this is android though. Kindle fire is Android based. There is Amazon app store. I don't know if the entire Google app store is available but it should be easy enough for Tim to find out. One thing I've noticed is that the latest codecs for the new hi def cameras weren't included with either my Archos or Toshiba tablets. If Tim finds that true with the Fire, the easiest solution is to install one of the many free players that work. There are a lot of good free apps as well as terrible ones. Make sure you install a good Antivirus before you start playing around,Tim. We got our 8-year old granddaughter the Pandigital tablet for Christmas. It got sent back for the Kindle Fire almost immediately. Don't know why, she just wanted it. I suppose there's something about it that's better. |
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:16:13 -0500, Oscar wrote:
On 1/1/12 11:41 PM, Tim wrote: yup. Her Kindle has the wifi. Don't think this this is android though. Kindle fire is Android based. There is Amazon app store. I don't know if the entire Google app store is available but it should be easy enough for Tim to find out. One thing I've noticed is that the latest codecs for the new hi def cameras weren't included with either my Archos or Toshiba tablets. If Tim finds that true with the Fire, the easiest solution is to install one of the many free players that work. There are a lot of good free apps as well as terrible ones. Make sure you install a good Antivirus before you start playing around,Tim. was looking for an android antivirus...google says that android OS isn't susceptible to viruses. the mcaffee folks agreed but said android was malware vulnerable |
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Jan 1, 12:44*pm, North Star wrote:
On Jan 1, 10:30*am, Oscar wrote: On 1/1/2012 9:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article0d345b13-1b0b-418d-b294- , says... On Dec 31, 10:41 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 12/31/11 9:33 AM, wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:09:36 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want things not listed. So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability, it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook. I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the features that meet your requirements. If you like to read books and magazines on a small computer screen, the Kindles and similar readers are ok. I still prefer reading books the "traditional" way, although I did read an entire "beach" novel on my laptop the last time I flew cross country. It was ok. The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway. On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass. I don't have a 4G cell or tablet, so I can't compare its speeds to Wi-Fi. When I'm away from Wi-Fi, 3G speed is more than adequate for my needs. I don't "net surf" very much on my cell phone, and the other apps - emails, messages, et cetera, seem fast enough on 3G when Wi-Fi is not available. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My #2 son gave us a Blackberry Playbook for Christmas. When I bundled our phone/internet/cable tv services last summer, I lost my Wi-Fi modem. I had to call and schedule my service provider to come in on the 3rd of January to swap out the basic modem for one capable of Wi-Fi. It was no big deal up till now because the only one using that feature ws my #1 son on his infrequent visits from Toronto. I probably wouldn't have bought a playbook myself, but now that I have one I'm anxious to see what it can do. I'll tell you one thing...the 3 meg front camera and the 5 meg back camera are limited for indoor use on a dark day. *It claims to have 1080i video.... whick is ok outside in the bright light. Also got an iPod Nano for Christmas.. so I had to visit a nearby audio store earlier this week to pick up a new pair of Grado headphones. Good grief..they cost as much as the iPod but do have a nice sound. (supplied 'bud style' headphones sounded crappy& *fit worse) All you had to do is buy a $15 wireless router. Why buy something when you can pay an installation fee and lease it forever?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry...no installation fee and I get the 1st 12 months rental 'free'. *After that, it'll be $3.00 per month. *I'll decide what to do them... maybe switch over to a competitor who now offers fibre optics.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, the technician/installer shoued up at 0900 hrs and swapped the modems. I've been playing with the Playbook for a bit and the browsing component seems to be working just fine. Still feels a bit awkward having to 'swipe' all the time vs the full sized keyboard of a desktop. On the plus side... now I can monitor this newsgroup in stereo. . |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/3/12 9:53 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jan 1, 12:44 pm, North wrote: On Jan 1, 10:30 am, wrote: On 1/1/2012 9:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article0d345b13-1b0b-418d-b294- , says... On Dec 31, 10:41 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/31/11 9:33 AM, wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:09:36 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want things not listed. So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability, it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook. I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the features that meet your requirements. If you like to read books and magazines on a small computer screen, the Kindles and similar readers are ok. I still prefer reading books the "traditional" way, although I did read an entire "beach" novel on my laptop the last time I flew cross country. It was ok. The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway. On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass. I don't have a 4G cell or tablet, so I can't compare its speeds to Wi-Fi. When I'm away from Wi-Fi, 3G speed is more than adequate for my needs. I don't "net surf" very much on my cell phone, and the other apps - emails, messages, et cetera, seem fast enough on 3G when Wi-Fi is not available. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My #2 son gave us a Blackberry Playbook for Christmas. When I bundled our phone/internet/cable tv services last summer, I lost my Wi-Fi modem. I had to call and schedule my service provider to come in on the 3rd of January to swap out the basic modem for one capable of Wi-Fi. It was no big deal up till now because the only one using that feature ws my #1 son on his infrequent visits from Toronto. I probably wouldn't have bought a playbook myself, but now that I have one I'm anxious to see what it can do. I'll tell you one thing...the 3 meg front camera and the 5 meg back camera are limited for indoor use on a dark day. It claims to have 1080i video.... whick is ok outside in the bright light. Also got an iPod Nano for Christmas.. so I had to visit a nearby audio store earlier this week to pick up a new pair of Grado headphones. Good grief..they cost as much as the iPod but do have a nice sound. (supplied 'bud style' headphones sounded crappy& fit worse) All you had to do is buy a $15 wireless router. Why buy something when you can pay an installation fee and lease it forever?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry...no installation fee and I get the 1st 12 months rental 'free'. After that, it'll be $3.00 per month. I'll decide what to do them... maybe switch over to a competitor who now offers fibre optics.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, the technician/installer shoued up at 0900 hrs and swapped the modems. I've been playing with the Playbook for a bit and the browsing component seems to be working just fine. Still feels a bit awkward having to 'swipe' all the time vs the full sized keyboard of a desktop. On the plus side... now I can monitor this newsgroup in stereo. . If you are typing on that device, you might be able to link it to a bluetooth keyboard. Most of these "smart" devices can handle bluetooth. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/3/2012 9:53 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jan 1, 12:44 pm, North wrote: On Jan 1, 10:30 am, wrote: On 1/1/2012 9:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article0d345b13-1b0b-418d-b294- , says... On Dec 31, 10:41 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/31/11 9:33 AM, wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:09:36 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:26:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? First, let's look at what it IS. It is a marketing tool from Amazon to hawk their digital wares. It has a decently large screen, though Ipad is larger. It has about 15K apps to Ipads roughly 100K apps. It is light in memory at 8GB. It does not have 3G, but does have b/g/n Wi-Fi. It has no camera. She may not want some of this and may want things not listed. So if she is looking for a reader with some netbook/tablet capability, it may be OK. Best feature is the price. I personally am passing on one because I can pay a bit more for a really good netbook. I think this is a LOT like buying a boat. Figure out what you are going to use the reader/tablet/netbook/notebook for and then find the features that meet your requirements. If you like to read books and magazines on a small computer screen, the Kindles and similar readers are ok. I still prefer reading books the "traditional" way, although I did read an entire "beach" novel on my laptop the last time I flew cross country. It was ok. The lack of 3G/4G on a tablet may not be so serious an issue. Most places you end up using a tablet will have free wifi available, which means the need to pay for an additional 3G appliance (in addition to a smart phone) is not overwhelming. Wifi is faster, anyway. On my hardware, 4G kicks wi-fi's ass. I don't have a 4G cell or tablet, so I can't compare its speeds to Wi-Fi. When I'm away from Wi-Fi, 3G speed is more than adequate for my needs. I don't "net surf" very much on my cell phone, and the other apps - emails, messages, et cetera, seem fast enough on 3G when Wi-Fi is not available. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My #2 son gave us a Blackberry Playbook for Christmas. When I bundled our phone/internet/cable tv services last summer, I lost my Wi-Fi modem. I had to call and schedule my service provider to come in on the 3rd of January to swap out the basic modem for one capable of Wi-Fi. It was no big deal up till now because the only one using that feature ws my #1 son on his infrequent visits from Toronto. I probably wouldn't have bought a playbook myself, but now that I have one I'm anxious to see what it can do. I'll tell you one thing...the 3 meg front camera and the 5 meg back camera are limited for indoor use on a dark day. It claims to have 1080i video.... whick is ok outside in the bright light. Also got an iPod Nano for Christmas.. so I had to visit a nearby audio store earlier this week to pick up a new pair of Grado headphones. Good grief..they cost as much as the iPod but do have a nice sound. (supplied 'bud style' headphones sounded crappy& fit worse) All you had to do is buy a $15 wireless router. Why buy something when you can pay an installation fee and lease it forever?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry...no installation fee and I get the 1st 12 months rental 'free'. After that, it'll be $3.00 per month. I'll decide what to do them... maybe switch over to a competitor who now offers fibre optics.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, the technician/installer shoued up at 0900 hrs and swapped the modems. I've been playing with the Playbook for a bit and the browsing component seems to be working just fine. Still feels a bit awkward having to 'swipe' all the time vs the full sized keyboard of a desktop. On the plus side... now I can monitor this newsgroup in stereo. . Try the groundhog newsgroup reader. It is a bit cumbersome but you might like it better than google groups. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:40:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:16:13 -0500, Oscar wrote: On 1/1/12 11:41 PM, Tim wrote: yup. Her Kindle has the wifi. Don't think this this is android though. Kindle fire is Android based. There is Amazon app store. I don't know if the entire Google app store is available but it should be easy enough for Tim to find out. One thing I've noticed is that the latest codecs for the new hi def cameras weren't included with either my Archos or Toshiba tablets. If Tim finds that true with the Fire, the easiest solution is to install one of the many free players that work. There are a lot of good free apps as well as terrible ones. Make sure you install a good Antivirus before you start playing around,Tim. was looking for an android antivirus...google says that android OS isn't susceptible to viruses. the mcaffee folks agreed but said android was malware vulnerable Check out Lookout on the Android market. Good stuff, I wouldn't be without it. thanks much! will do |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
In article ,
says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article 2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. |
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"X ` Man" wrote in message
... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. |
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On 1/4/12 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. Agreed. |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:42:59 -0500, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. The libraries here wouldn't condone that behavior. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/4/2012 2:53 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. Prices vary but$10 seems to be average. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/4/12 4:32 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/4/2012 2:53 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. Prices vary but$10 seems to be average. There also are lots and lots of "classic" books you can download for no cost. And to get us on topic, Moby-Dick is one of them. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Jan 4, 12:16*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"X ` Man" *wrote in ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" *wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says.... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. *Lots of books in a very small package. That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which is usually in a day). So it was more of an economic and space saving value to her. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Jan 4, 3:36*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 1/4/12 4:32 PM, Oscar wrote: On 1/4/2012 2:53 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message l-september.org... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. Prices vary but$10 seems to be average. There also are lots and lots of "classic" books you can download for no cost. And to get us on topic, Moby-Dick is one of them. I wonder if you can download a Mercruiser Alpha-1 repair manual to one? |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:23:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: And to get us on topic, Moby-Dick is one of them. An STD? I wonder if you can download a Mercruiser Alpha-1 repair manual to one? Not sure if Kindle supports PDFs but I think there's a good chance. Scanning a document to PDF format is easy. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On 1/4/2012 6:21 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 4, 12:16 pm, wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which is usually in a day). So it was more of an economic and space saving value to her. Didn't realize there were so many of these things out there. Went into Be$t Buy today to get some software and there was a whole section dedicated to just these pads... Used to be a bunch of laptops there there, now only pads... My middle daughter must have one by now, she is known to keep as many as 4-5 books in here purse and be reading most of them at any given time. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Jan 4, 9:43*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 6:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jan 4, 12:16 pm, *wrote: "X ` Man" *wrote in ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" *wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says.... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. *Lots of books in a very small package. That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which is usually in a day). *So it was more of an economic and space saving value to her. Didn't realize there were so many of these things out there. Went into Be$t Buy today to get some software and there was a whole section dedicated to just these pads... Used to be a bunch of laptops there there, now only pads... My middle daughter must have one by now, she is known to keep as many as 4-5 books in here purse and be reading most of them at any given time. My wife is addicted to hers already, now if I find her trying to attach it to the windshield like her Garmin, that will be the end of it! |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
In article ,
says... On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. You can check books out from your local library, using your library card and you have Gutenberg for all of the classics and older books. |
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
In article ,
says... On 1/4/2012 2:53 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. Prices vary but$10 seems to be average. Our library loans Ebooks out for nothing. And there are a lot of resources for books that are a lot less than $10, even free! But yes, that is about right for Amazon. |
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OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 07:17:55 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. You can check books out from your local library, using your library card and you have Gutenberg for all of the classics and older books. I know. I use my library extensively. That's my point...one Kindle would take up much less room in a bag than a bunch of library books. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
In article ,
says... In article d9ed8ca6-24ff-451c-9478-d0bd66d77f76 @p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 4, 12:16*pm, "Califbill" wrote: "X ` Man" *wrote in ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" *wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. *Lots of books in a very small package. That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which is usually in a day). So it was more of an economic and space saving value to her. I don't care what anybody says, I wouldn't be without my Kindle for anything! Scenario: I'm in a coffee shop having a cup of coffee, and reading a newspaper. Something strikes my interest. I fire up the kindle and find a resource for information about what I'm interested in. I COULD get on the web on my Android phone, but I find the screed size too small. Why aren't you reading your newspaper on your Kindle? |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:23:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And to get us on topic, Moby-Dick is one of them. An STD? I wonder if you can download a Mercruiser Alpha-1 repair manual to one? Not sure if Kindle supports PDFs but I think there's a good chance. Scanning a document to PDF format is easy. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lots of free online story sites. And lots of self published material now. The author nets bigger money from the sale at a buck or so than from a paperback deal. |
OT- Kindlefire. What's it's advantages?
"Happy John" wrote in message
... On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 07:17:55 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote: In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6- , says... I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there? The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and software updates for them. --------------------------------------------- I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable but are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs needed to be fixed before being released. Kindle Fire Mod 1 In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages, turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing. ------------------------------------------------ I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be nice. Lots of books in a very small package. How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than packing three or four hardbacks for a trip. You can check books out from your local library, using your library card and you have Gutenberg for all of the classics and older books. I know. I use my library extensively. That's my point...one Kindle would take up much less room in a bag than a bunch of library books. ------------------------------------ and save the overdue charges. For travel a lot of times I buy used paper backs and leave them at the airport or hotel when I finish them. |
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