OT - The Govornator?
 

OK.......... I'll give in. Something new to banter about??? LOL

Regardless how you feel about the idea of a "recall" election, the fact is
California has a new Govorner elect.

So.... do you think Arnold can do the job?

My take is that he's a moderate Republican that your average Demacrat can
live with. But can he fix the huge bugetary problems California has? How do
you think he'll do in general at the job of Govorner? Will his obvious ties
to the Democratic heierarchy help him get bi-partisan support?

Hints:

1. Don't let the discussion turn into endless silly comparisons between the
"Gropeinator" and Clintons blow jobs. Let's assume Arnie won't be slapping
any asses - at least while he's in office.

2. Don't get into the rathole of blaming all Californias money troubles on
the "Bush Economy". Regardless of the national situation, California is in
an economic toilet much deeper than the national average.

-W

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
. net...
OK.......... I'll give in. Something new to banter about??? LOL

Regardless how you feel about the idea of a "recall" election, the fact is
California has a new Govorner elect.

So.... do you think Arnold can do the job?

My take is that he's a moderate Republican that your average Demacrat can
live with. But can he fix the huge bugetary problems California has? How do
you think he'll do in general at the job of Govorner? Will his obvious ties
to the Democratic heierarchy help him get bi-partisan support?

Hints:

1. Don't let the discussion turn into endless silly comparisons between the
"Gropeinator" and Clintons blow jobs. Let's assume Arnie won't be slapping
any asses - at least while he's in office.

2. Don't get into the rathole of blaming all Californias money troubles on
the "Bush Economy". Regardless of the national situation, California is in
an economic toilet much deeper than the national average.

-W


Why bother with speculation???? It proves nothing. Let's see what he does addressing
California's huge fiscal problem. Then open the discussion on how he is doing.

Right or wrong, he was elected by the citizens of California to lead their State. Give
him a chance to stumble or shine.

Save your speculations for the race track.

OT - The Govornator?
 

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport. The only
entertainment Arnold will be providing us with is how well he does his new
job. I have some reservations sure, but he's someone I'd never count out
early.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:MX2hb.526090

Why bother with speculation???? It proves nothing. Let's see what he
does addressing
California's huge fiscal problem. Then open the discussion on how he is
doing.

Right or wrong, he was elected by the citizens of California to lead their
State. Give
him a chance to stumble or shine.

Save your speculations for the race track.

OT - The Govornator?
 

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of California see
as a right now.

OT - The Govornator?
 

On 09 Oct 2003 03:26:46 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of California see
as a right now.

I think it should now be obvious the solution to that problem is
massive tax cuts while increasing spending. The only problem being,
how does California go to war to distract the public from it's
financial quagmire?

bb

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
. net...
For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport. The
only
entertainment Arnold will be providing us with is how well he does his new
job. I have some reservations sure, but he's someone I'd never count out
early.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:MX2hb.526090

Why bother with speculation???? It proves nothing. Let's see what he
does addressing
California's huge fiscal problem. Then open the discussion on how he is
doing.

Right or wrong, he was elected by the citizens of California to lead
their
State. Give
him a chance to stumble or shine.

Save your speculations for the race track.




Well, first I hope the LA times folds over their latest headline, or at
least lose a billion or so dollars. The "Gropenfurer". As to the election.
Arnold has done well as a business man. More money from real estate than
movies. Most of the refurbed area of Santa Monica his because of him.
Listening to KGO this morning. Major, very major talk radio in the SFO area
and very liberal. Lady called in and said she voted for Arnold, and was a
Democrat. All the calls from Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Willie Brown saying
that Arnold was bad and a women abuser told her that the Dem's were dying.
All the major proved womanizers calling upset her greatly. Already the
President Pro Tem of the House said that he was not going to cut anything if
it affected kids, women and children and put the blame on the Bush
Recession. Recession my ass. The state in the last 4 years went from a $24
billion surplus to a $38 billion deficit, while at the same time revenues
increased $24 billion. A budget that grew from 60 Billion to $108 billion.
Dept. Fish and game had 4 deputy directors in 1990, now there are 160. When
the last governor left office there were 4 lawyers working for DFG, now
there are 169. 169 is not a misprint. At the same time they have decreased
the wardens and biologists and hatchery workers. This is just one
department of the state. Prison guards union gave a million + to Davis and
at the same time he was cutting children's health services, they were
getting a 30% raise. Is why he was overwhelming tossed as Gov. Arnold was
the only candidate that actually campaigned on the facts that showed the job
Davis was miss manageing. His charisma helped also. And Bustamante was
scaring everybody with his ideas. Raise spending and taxes! Open the
border wide open, etc. I feel Arnold will surround himself with good
people. Not just yes men per Davis.
Bill

OT - The Govornator?
 

"bb" wrote in message
...
On 09 Oct 2003 03:26:46 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the
US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of
California see
as a right now.

I think it should now be obvious the solution to that problem is
massive tax cuts while increasing spending. The only problem being,
how does California go to war to distract the public from it's
financial quagmire?

They can go to war with Mexico. It would seem the immigration issue will
provide all the fuel necessary to drive the issue. Arnold has already staked
out some ground on the topic. How many Billions can California borrow to
rebuild the Mexican economy after a war?

Mark Browne

OT - The Govornator?
 

As I understand the tale, Arnold made his 1st million when he got here as an
unemployed muscle-kid and put an ad in the papers with a buddy advirtising:
"Genuine European Bricklayers and Stonecrafters" it didn't matter that he'd
never done it - he learned the trade fast and capitalized on the fact that
European stone stuff was in vogue. He had a successfull business in no time
while winning minor titles on his way up the bodybuilding food chain. Sounds
to me like he didn't waste his time on Muscle Beach showing off his abs. LOL

When he said he wanted to be a big star ac-tor, everyone
laughed.............

I'm not gonna laugh at him now......... too risky.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:8O4hb.3763

As to the election.
Arnold has done well as a business man. More money from real estate than
movies. Most of the refurbed area of Santa Monica his because of him.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:j55hb.708980$YN5.586310@sccrnsc01...
As I understand the tale, Arnold made his 1st million when he got here as
an
unemployed muscle-kid and put an ad in the papers with a buddy
advirtising:
"Genuine European Bricklayers and Stonecrafters" it didn't matter that
he'd
never done it - he learned the trade fast and capitalized on the fact that
European stone stuff was in vogue. He had a successfull business in no
time
while winning minor titles on his way up the bodybuilding food chain.
Sounds
to me like he didn't waste his time on Muscle Beach showing off his abs.
LOL

When he said he wanted to be a big star ac-tor, everyone
laughed.............

I'm not gonna laugh at him now......... too risky.

-W

Turd polishing is a lot harder than starting with no debt and a clean slate.
It'll take more than a great businessman to rework Caleeefonia.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"bb" wrote in message
...
On 09 Oct 2003 03:26:46 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the
US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of
California see
as a right now.

I think it should now be obvious the solution to that problem is
massive tax cuts while increasing spending. The only problem being,
how does California go to war to distract the public from it's
financial quagmire?

bb


Don't forget the concept of borrowing until the state's S&P bond rating is
lowered to at least B-. That always helps. Then, you can issue the NEXT
generation of bonds at 11%, or whatever number is double the rate which
healthy communities are getting.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:j55hb.708980$YN5.586310@sccrnsc01...
As I understand the tale, Arnold made his 1st million when he got here as
an
unemployed muscle-kid and put an ad in the papers with a buddy
advirtising:
"Genuine European Bricklayers and Stonecrafters" it didn't matter that
he'd
never done it - he learned the trade fast and capitalized on the fact that
European stone stuff was in vogue.

Odd fact: There's an architecture firm on my floor in this office building.
The head honcho designed a very stylish magazine rack for the men's room
(stainless steel) and permanently bolted it to the tiles. Anyway, over the
past few years, I've read articles indicating that there are certain types
of masonry skills that virtually NOBODY knows how to do here. In particular,
fancy interior plastering for large areas like hotel/office lobbies. They
have to shlep people over from Italy.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:8O4hb.3763

(snip the drivel)
Bill

So, do you deem Arnold groping women as just a little thing that
doesn't need to be discussed? If so, once again, we are shown just how
hypocritical the Republicans are! It's okay to grope women if you're a
republican, but, if you are a democrat, you need to spend millions of
dollars of taxpayer's money to give to Ken Starr to get to the bottom
of it.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:05:30 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

OK.......... I'll give in. Something new to banter about??? LOL

Regardless how you feel about the idea of a "recall" election, the fact is
California has a new Govorner elect.

So.... do you think Arnold can do the job?

My take is that he's a moderate Republican that your average Demacrat can
live with. But can he fix the huge bugetary problems California has? How do
you think he'll do in general at the job of Govorner? Will his obvious ties
to the Democratic heierarchy help him get bi-partisan support?

Hints:

1. Don't let the discussion turn into endless silly comparisons between the
"Gropeinator" and Clintons blow jobs. Let's assume Arnie won't be slapping
any asses - at least while he's in office.

2. Don't get into the rathole of blaming all Californias money troubles on
the "Bush Economy". Regardless of the national situation, California is in
an economic toilet much deeper than the national average.

-W


As I see it, the true "fixes" for CA are not politically correct for
either side of the aisle. IMHO, AS, without a firm political base,
extensive experience, or a pocket full of personal notes to call in,
won't be able to get anything substantive done.

We'll see.

If he is successful, maybe he should succeed RR to the WH.



Not possible. He is was not born in the US.

OT - The Govornator?
 

What's the matter? Topic not going down the tubes fast
enough for you?

No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.

-JimL


basskisser wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:8O4hb.3763

(snip the drivel)

Bill


So, do you deem Arnold groping women as just a little thing that
doesn't need to be discussed? If so, once again, we are shown just how
hypocritical the Republicans are! It's okay to grope women if you're a
republican, but, if you are a democrat, you need to spend millions of
dollars of taxpayer's money to give to Ken Starr to get to the bottom
of it.

OT - The Govornator?
 

Not just that.... but I wonder how many crass women have groped his body
without permission?

I just see it as a side issue until real charges are made and verified etc
etc...

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...
What's the matter? Topic not going down the tubes fast
enough for you?

No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.

-JimL


basskisser wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:8O4hb.3763

(snip the drivel)

Bill


So, do you deem Arnold groping women as just a little thing that
doesn't need to be discussed? If so, once again, we are shown just how
hypocritical the Republicans are! It's okay to grope women if you're a
republican, but, if you are a democrat, you need to spend millions of
dollars of taxpayer's money to give to Ken Starr to get to the bottom
of it.

OT - The Govornator?
 

No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.


I also think there is a little difference between a 20 year old single weight
lifter groping groupies at a gym and the 50 year old, married, leader of the
free world skull ****ing an employee in his office.

OT - The Govornator?
 

As the starter of this topic - I warned of the Gropinator vs BJ crap.

-W I CALL FOUL!


"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.


I also think there is a little difference between a 20 year old single
weight
lifter groping groupies at a gym and the 50 year old, married, leader of
the
free world skull ****ing an employee in his office.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:Bhjhb.723165$uu5.119996@sccrnsc04...
As the starter of this topic - I warned of the Gropinator vs BJ crap.

-W I CALL FOUL!

Like it or not Clams, it is a legitimate point he brought up.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

skull ****ing an employee in his office.

Does that qualify as sexual relations?

OT - The Govornator?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

skull ****ing an employee in his office.

Does that qualify as sexual relations?

Does it qualify as anyone's ****in' business but his own?

OT - The Govornator?
 

No it's not - here.
I said that for the sake of discussion let's assume Arnie doesn't grope
anyone while in office. That kinda set the paramaters. Only someone
looking to blow up a thread would start the Grope VS blowjob crap. Nothing
constructive can come of it.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:8yjhb.714329
Like it or not Clams, it is a legitimate point he brought up.

OT - The Govornator?
 

You have lost control and have been thrown out as moderator of this thread.




"Clams Canino" wrote in message
. net...
No it's not - here.
I said that for the sake of discussion let's assume Arnie doesn't grope
anyone while in office. That kinda set the paramaters. Only someone
looking to blow up a thread would start the Grope VS blowjob crap. Nothing
constructive can come of it.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:8yjhb.714329
Like it or not Clams, it is a legitimate point he brought up.

OT - The Govornator?
 

I see that........ and without me the yahooos will grope and blow each
other to smitherines.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message
news:%Wjhb.714479$YN5.609587@sccrnsc01...

You have lost control and have been thrown out as moderator of this
thread.

OT - The Govornator?
 

Clams,

Look at the bright side. It took a whole couple of hours for
your OT post to go WAYYYYYY OT. :^)

-JimL

PS: Sent you an eail over the weekend asking about an old Merc
motor. Did you get it?



Clams Canino wrote:
As the starter of this topic - I warned of the Gropinator vs BJ crap.

-W I CALL FOUL!


"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.


I also think there is a little difference between a 20 year old single

weight

lifter groping groupies at a gym and the 50 year old, married, leader of

the

free world skull ****ing an employee in his office.

OT - The Govornator?
 

No.... ask here in this thread.......... LOL

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...
Clams,

Look at the bright side. It took a whole couple of hours for
your OT post to go WAYYYYYY OT. :^)

-JimL

PS: Sent you an eail over the weekend asking about an old Merc
motor. Did you get it?



Clams Canino wrote:
As the starter of this topic - I warned of the Gropinator vs BJ crap.

-W I CALL FOUL!


"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.


I also think there is a little difference between a 20 year old single

weight

lifter groping groupies at a gym and the 50 year old, married, leader of

the

free world skull ****ing an employee in his office.

OT - The Govornator?
 

But it would be off topic! :^) I was asking about a mid-80's
Merc that my brother was going to check out. Wasn't sure if mid
80's was up your alley or too new for you. :^) We tried it out
but decided against it as it didn't run too smooth and believed
it had been rode hard and put up wet too many times.

-JimL


Clams Canino wrote:
No.... ask here in this thread.......... LOL

-W

OT - The Govornator?
 

What hp?

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...
But it would be off topic! :^) I was asking about a mid-80's
Merc that my brother was going to check out. Wasn't sure if mid
80's was up your alley or too new for you. :^) We tried it out
but decided against it as it didn't run too smooth and believed
it had been rode hard and put up wet too many times.

-JimL


Clams Canino wrote:
No.... ask here in this thread.......... LOL

-W

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 09 Oct 2003 19:54:14 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.


I also think there is a little difference between a 20 year old single weight
lifter groping groupies at a gym and the 50 year old, married, leader of the
free world skull ****ing an employee in his office.


Yeah...the 20 year old probably gets to grope better looking babes.

Why do you always choose to reply to a post with childish insults rather than a well
thought out comments?

OT - The Govornator?
 

Actually - I thought that one was funny. I'm not saying Harry doesn;t resort
to silly insults, but that wasn't one. Monica was kind of a porker and that
Flowers chick had a nose that could sneeze all over the free world. Arnold
prolly had a better litter to pick from in Cal. back in the day. I found
the comment humorously accurate.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:Zpmhb.532510

Why do you always choose to reply to a post with childish insults rather
than a well
thought out comments?

OT - The Govornator?
 

It was a 90hp. Looked good and started right up, but misfired
until around 20 mph (according to the GPS). But to be honest,
I couldn't be sure it wasn't still misfiring. Being a 6 cyl,
the extra cylinders may have made up for it in smoothness at the
higher rpm's. :^) Playing with the trim on the motor, the most it
could get was 37mph. Even though it was an old tri-hull in
questionable condition (the guy bought the boat and installed the
motor just to sell the motor), I had reservations about it and so
did my brother. His son ended up finding him a Johnson 100hp for
a grand a day or so after that and it supposedly runs great and has
excellent compression in all cylinders. Initially I was pushing
him hard towards that Merc until I found out a little more history
and then the test ride. The guy that owns it, not the guy selling
it for him, had it on some kind of little race noat so I believe it
had spent most of its life at WOT. Not only that, but the guy that
owns it supposedly works on his motors which led me to believe he
should have as least had it running smooth before trying to sell it,
especially since he went through the trouble of installing/rigging
the boat with it.

Ohhh Noooo, an OT post that went On Topic!!! :^)

-JimL



Clams Canino wrote:
What hp?

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...

But it would be off topic! :^) I was asking about a mid-80's
Merc that my brother was going to check out. Wasn't sure if mid
80's was up your alley or too new for you. :^) We tried it out
but decided against it as it didn't run too smooth and believed
it had been rode hard and put up wet too many times.

-JimL


Clams Canino wrote:

No.... ask here in this thread.......... LOL

-W

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:6zmhb.724195$uu5.120547@sccrnsc04...
Actually - I thought that one was funny. I'm not saying Harry doesn;t
resort
to silly insults, but that wasn't one. Monica was kind of a porker and
that
Flowers chick had a nose that could sneeze all over the free world.

That was Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers was very good looking.

Arnold
prolly had a better litter to pick from in Cal. back in the day. I found
the comment humorously accurate.

Arnold's a pig. No, not that Arnold, the terminator Arnold. Republicans
just like pigs who are Republican pigs.

OT - The Govornator?
 

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


I thnk she spelled it Genifer, or Gennifer. Whatever. She wasn't bad
looking, but some of Bill's Babes were, indeed, pigs.



Bill seems to like 'em a bit on the thick side. The bigger the cushion, the
better the pushin', as the bible says.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
reg (Gfretwell) wrote in message
...
No one has said that the 'groping' was okay. Regardless of
party affiliation, Arnold admitted it and apologized for it.


I also think there is a little difference between a 20 year old single
weight
lifter groping groupies at a gym and the 50 year old, married, leader of
the
free world skull ****ing an employee in his office.

You are correct. By law, a 20 year old single weight lifter groping
women who don't want to be groped, constitutes sexual battery, where
as a 50 year old married man getting a hummer in his office, with
Monica's CONSENT, was not.

Yeah, but the latter sure is interesting if you're a Republican legislator
or a special prosecutor and you haven't heard a good story or gotten laid in
17 years.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:8O4hb.3763

(snip the drivel)
Bill

So, do you deem Arnold groping women as just a little thing that
doesn't need to be discussed? If so, once again, we are shown just how
hypocritical the Republicans are! It's okay to grope women if you're a
republican, but, if you are a democrat, you need to spend millions of
dollars of taxpayer's money to give to Ken Starr to get to the bottom
of it.

Let us look at the difference between the Ken Starr investigation BJ and The
Govenator.
1. The Govenator was 20 years old, un married, and a guy who probably got
groped a lot also being he was Mr. Olympiad.
2. The BJ was brought up in a court of law in regards to the governor of a
state telling an employee to blow him and then lied in court about his
groping, etc.
3. Arnold apologized to any women who were offended 20 years ago. The
President of the USA was disbarred for committing perjury.

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:3_lhb.724027$uu5.120464@sccrnsc04...
What hp?

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...
But it would be off topic! :^) I was asking about a mid-80's
Merc that my brother was going to check out. Wasn't sure if mid
80's was up your alley or too new for you. :^) We tried it out
but decided against it as it didn't run too smooth and believed
it had been rode hard and put up wet too many times.

-JimL


Clams Canino wrote:
No.... ask here in this thread.......... LOL

-W




I object. This is bringing On Topic in Off Topic threads. How are going to
keep track of real boat stuff?
Bill ;)

OT - The Govornator?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:03:19 GMT, "Jim -"
wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:05:30 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

OK.......... I'll give in. Something new to banter about??? LOL

Regardless how you feel about the idea of a "recall" election, the
fact is
California has a new Govorner elect.

So.... do you think Arnold can do the job?

My take is that he's a moderate Republican that your average Demacrat
can
live with. But can he fix the huge bugetary problems California has?
How do
you think he'll do in general at the job of Govorner? Will his obvious
ties
to the Democratic heierarchy help him get bi-partisan support?

Hints:

1. Don't let the discussion turn into endless silly comparisons
between the
"Gropeinator" and Clintons blow jobs. Let's assume Arnie won't be
slapping
any asses - at least while he's in office.

2. Don't get into the rathole of blaming all Californias money
troubles on
the "Bush Economy". Regardless of the national situation, California
is in
an economic toilet much deeper than the national average.

-W


As I see it, the true "fixes" for CA are not politically correct for
either side of the aisle. IMHO, AS, without a firm political base,
extensive experience, or a pocket full of personal notes to call in,
won't be able to get anything substantive done.

We'll see.

If he is successful, maybe he should succeed RR to the WH.



Not possible. He is was not born in the US.

Not now, perhaps, but there are people on both sides of the aisle
trying to change the status of this matter.

Vic Snyder (D-AK) has put forth a proposal that would allow any
foreign-born person to run for president after 35 years as a U.S.
citizen.

Orrin Hatch (R-UT) introduced a similar amendment, as late as July,
that would cut the time to 20 years. I'm sure that it is only there
rarest of coincidences that Schwarzenegger recently celebrated his
20th year as a U.S. citizen.



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There was the controversy as to if you had to be born in the USA or born a
citizen in the about 1972 election. Forget the name (senior moment) of the
former head of American motors that was born to Mormon missionary parents
outside the US borders.

OT - The Govornator?
 

Congress *could* ammend the constitution to re-write Article II, Section 1
OR...
They could pass an "Arnold Law" declaring that Place of birth not
withstanding, Arnold for the purposes of Article II, Section one is declared
by law to be a natural born citizen.

Dunno if either would fly though.

-W


"WaIIy" wrote in message

Article II, Section 1: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a
Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this
Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

How can you negate such a direct statement from an Article?

Has it ever been done?

OT - The Govornator?
 

The Merc prolly had a dirty carb or a blown SCR in a switchbox. Those 90's
were no powerhouse, but they were rock reliable.

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...
It was a 90hp. Looked good and started right up, but misfired
until around 20 mph (according to the GPS). But to be honest,
I couldn't be sure it wasn't still misfiring. Being a 6 cyl,
the extra cylinders may have made up for it in smoothness at the
higher rpm's. :^) Playing with the trim on the motor, the most it
could get was 37mph. Even though it was an old tri-hull in
questionable condition (the guy bought the boat and installed the
motor just to sell the motor), I had reservations about it and so
did my brother. His son ended up finding him a Johnson 100hp for
a grand a day or so after that and it supposedly runs great and has
excellent compression in all cylinders. Initially I was pushing
him hard towards that Merc until I found out a little more history
and then the test ride. The guy that owns it, not the guy selling
it for him, had it on some kind of little race noat so I believe it
had spent most of its life at WOT. Not only that, but the guy that
owns it supposedly works on his motors which led me to believe he
should have as least had it running smooth before trying to sell it,
especially since he went through the trouble of installing/rigging
the boat with it.

Ohhh Noooo, an OT post that went On Topic!!! :^)

-JimL



Clams Canino wrote:
What hp?

-W

"JimL" wrote in message
...

But it would be off topic! :^) I was asking about a mid-80's
Merc that my brother was going to check out. Wasn't sure if mid
80's was up your alley or too new for you. :^) We tried it out
but decided against it as it didn't run too smooth and believed
it had been rode hard and put up wet too many times.

-JimL


Clams Canino wrote:

No.... ask here in this thread.......... LOL

-W

OT - The Govornator?
 

A Cuban friend of mine gave me a real good argument for not allowing
immigrants to ever be POTUS.

As much as he hates Castro etc etc...... He could never bring himself to
nuke Cuba - even if it was the right call. You gotta be able to push the
button if you sit in the big chair.

-W

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:48:02 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:05:52 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

Congress *could* ammend the constitution to re-write Article II, Section
1

I don't think so.


Wally, I'm lost, now... is it your position that you don't think that
they *will* amend the constitution to do this..... or do you think
that an amendment *couldn't* change this Article?

--



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