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On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote:
Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk |
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On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
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On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. |
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On 12/14/11 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Oh, come on...laptop accidents happen frequently. It isn't likely the kid learned anything worthwhile from her incompetent dad. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
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On 14/12/2011 2:39 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/14/11 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Oh, come on...laptop accidents happen frequently. It isn't likely the kid learned anything worthwhile from her incompetent dad. At $499 for a new one...just buy a newer and likely aster one. Not many are used past 3 years. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
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On 12/14/2011 4:43 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/12/2011 2:39 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/14/11 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Oh, come on...laptop accidents happen frequently. It isn't likely the kid learned anything worthwhile from her incompetent dad. Yeah, well better than your kids who only learned how to run from daddy when he was drunk... Yeah, we all remember you crying here how your kids abandoned you as soon as they could. Your words, not mine. At $499 for a new one...just buy a newer and likely aster one. Not many are used past 3 years. |
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On 12/14/2011 4:43 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/12/2011 2:39 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/14/11 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Oh, come on...laptop accidents happen frequently. It isn't likely the kid learned anything worthwhile from her incompetent dad. At $499 for a new one...just buy a newer and likely aster one. Not many are used past 3 years. The extended plan was 99 bucks, the thing is three years old this month and will do just fine for what we do for a couple more years anyway... |
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On 12/14/11 4:46 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2011 4:43 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 14/12/2011 2:39 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/14/11 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Oh, come on...laptop accidents happen frequently. It isn't likely the kid learned anything worthwhile from her incompetent dad. Yeah, well better than your kids who only learned how to run from daddy when he was drunk... Yeah, we all remember you crying here how your kids abandoned you as soon as they could. Your words, not mine. Just another fantasy. I never made any such posts and I don't drink enough to count and never did. My yearly alcoholic consumption consists of a six pack of beer and two or three "girlie" tequila or rum drinks in the summer. I'm sure you are quoting one of the many harry clones here in...probably you. But none of this has anything to do with your inability to get and hold a decent job. m/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
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On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
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On 12/15/11 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. Far be it from me to stick up for iSnotty, but, really, his kid had a perfectly reasonable and nor uncommon mishap with her computer. I doubt it had anything to do with being "careful." **** happens. If only that condom hadn't slipped off your dad's dick, eh? He wasn't careful and maybe he was young. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
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On 12/15/2011 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. What are you ****ing retarded? She tripped asshole.. I suppose it's what I should expect from an arrogant old (I got mine and I took it from you) geezer.... |
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On 12/15/2011 2:18 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2011 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. What are you ****ing retarded? She tripped asshole.. I suppose it's what I should expect from an arrogant old (I got mine and I took it from you) geezer.... or should I say, "gamed the system and took it from you"? |
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On Dec 15, 3:12*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 12/15/11 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. Far be it from me to stick up for iSnotty, but, really, his kid had a perfectly reasonable and nor uncommon mishap with her computer. I doubt it had anything to do with being "careful." **** happens. If only that condom hadn't slipped off your dad's dick, eh? *He wasn't careful and maybe he was young. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. |
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On 12/15/11 2:26 PM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:12 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/15/11 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. Far be it from me to stick up for iSnotty, but, really, his kid had a perfectly reasonable and nor uncommon mishap with her computer. I doubt it had anything to do with being "careful." **** happens. If only that condom hadn't slipped off your dad's dick, eh? He wasn't careful and maybe he was young. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. I have a "keyboard condom" on my laptop. I believe it is made from some sort of silicon. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
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On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:12 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/15/11 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote: Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM Diagnosis...bad video card Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card permanently attached to motherboard. Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear Known Liquid Damage: No Check-in Required: Yes Username: na Password: na Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their computer is being serviced?: No Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours Mac OS Version: 10.7.2 Hard Drive Size: 200 GB Memory Size: 4 GB iLife Version: 09 Employee ########## Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00 A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of warranty...it's almost four years old. Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back this week. I like the ones that don't need repair. BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it out good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and without an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the parts changer replaced...snerk It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a responsible father. That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach your kid some self discipline. Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track. Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal? Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young. Far be it from me to stick up for iSnotty, but, really, his kid had a perfectly reasonable and nor uncommon mishap with her computer. I doubt it had anything to do with being "careful." **** happens. If only that condom hadn't slipped off your dad's dick, eh? He wasn't careful and maybe he was young. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. My last laptop, non-union non-USA made dual core with HT, 17" Intel I3 with 4GB RAM and 500GB drive was $549 last spring. Spilling coffee or pop isn't as bad as it used to be. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
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On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. |
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On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. |
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On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
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On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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says... On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Of course he's a liar! Most cowards are. |
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On 16/12/2011 12:21 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities. harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when things started working. But management back then saw through the crap. harryk is a bull****ting idiot. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
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On 12/16/2011 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 12:21 PM, Drifter wrote: On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities. harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when things started working. But management back then saw through the crap. harryk is a bull****ting idiot. Our first home Pc cost about $2000. It was a 16 mhz with a 20 meg hdd... Printer, monitor, key, mouse. |
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On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
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On 12/16/11 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities. harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when things started working. But management back then saw through the crap. harryk is a bull****ting idiot. You weren't building "clone" PC's in 1981-82, not PCs that followed the IBM standard. I sold my first PC about a year or so after I bought it because I got a reviewer's "deal" on an 8086 based PC Clone from Eagle, and I was a regular columnist of a weekly news format tabloid called PC Week. Also wrote for PC Mag and my favorite, BYTE. Jerry Pournelle, the sci-fi writer, was a columnist there and he got me an S-100 bus "demo" computer. Didn't like it at all. Your claims of being a "hacker" are bull****, too. A "hacker" accountant? Not that I believe you were an accountant, either. An $8000 PC? Bull****. |
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On 12/16/2011 3:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities. harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when things started working. But management back then saw through the crap. harryk is a bull****ting idiot. You weren't building "clone" PC's in 1981-82, not PCs that followed the IBM standard. I sold my first PC about a year or so after I bought it because I got a reviewer's "deal" on an 8086 based PC Clone from Eagle, and I was a regular columnist of a weekly news format tabloid called PC Week. Also wrote for PC Mag and my favorite, BYTE. Jerry Pournelle, the sci-fi writer, was a columnist there and he got me an S-100 bus "demo" computer. Didn't like it at all. Your claims of being a "hacker" are bull****, too. A "hacker" accountant? Not that I believe you were an accountant, either. An $8000 PC? Bull****. Yawn. The lies roll off your tongue like butter in a hot skillet. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
In article , dump-on-
says... On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. Your $1650 is bull****. |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:39 -0500, Drifter wrote:
On 12/16/2011 3:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities. harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when things started working. But management back then saw through the crap. harryk is a bull****ting idiot. You weren't building "clone" PC's in 1981-82, not PCs that followed the IBM standard. I sold my first PC about a year or so after I bought it because I got a reviewer's "deal" on an 8086 based PC Clone from Eagle, and I was a regular columnist of a weekly news format tabloid called PC Week. Also wrote for PC Mag and my favorite, BYTE. Jerry Pournelle, the sci-fi writer, was a columnist there and he got me an S-100 bus "demo" computer. Didn't like it at all. Your claims of being a "hacker" are bull****, too. A "hacker" accountant? Not that I believe you were an accountant, either. An $8000 PC? Bull****. Yawn. The lies roll off your tongue like butter in a hot skillet. What's not to believe? After all.... http://johnherring.net/resume/ It's all there for the world to see. |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
On 16/12/2011 1:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to no one, I might add. Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities. harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when things started working. But management back then saw through the crap. harryk is a bull****ting idiot. You weren't building "clone" PC's in 1981-82, not PCs that followed the IBM standard. I sold my first PC about a year or so after I bought it because I got a reviewer's "deal" on an 8086 based PC Clone from Eagle, and I was a regular columnist of a weekly news format tabloid called PC Week. Also wrote for PC Mag and my favorite, BYTE. Jerry Pournelle, the sci-fi writer, was a columnist there and he got me an S-100 bus "demo" computer. Didn't like it at all. Your claims of being a "hacker" are bull****, too. A "hacker" accountant? Not that I believe you were an accountant, either. An $8000 PC? Bull****. You wouldn't know a S-100 CP/M system if it came up and bit you in the ass. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
On 16/12/2011 1:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. Funny, you want to store a 5 mb DB in 1982, it was going to cost you a lot more than $1500 for computer and drive.... http://ns1758.ca/winch/winchest.html While Micky mouses like you were toying with 32K RAM and 360K floppies it just wasn't good enough and I required 10 mb hard drives, and printer. And while you probably used pirated copy of MS-DOS, sorry, that wouldn't work where I worked. MS-DOS was an extra charge. So was the compilers, BASIC and graphics software. Yes, graphics, while you were toying with 24 lines of 64 characters I was More on Itty Bitty Machine pricing.... http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5150.html But you add maxed out memory and double floppies, $3000, $1600 hard drive, $1000 modem plus some software it didn't take long. Printers and a plotter with autocad were not cheap either. To be honest, I can't remember the exact price tag but it was over $8000 in 1982 dollars. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
On 16/12/2011 2:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article75udndIyFP6jOnbTnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. Your $1650 is bull****. He probably stuck his video cable up his ass for $1650.... and he damned things were unusable with only one floppy. Switching disks from the OS disk to the other disk, mind you better than the paper tap and thumb wheel bootstrap ones. 32k of ram, well, you wouldn't run much on that. First computer, IBM 360 keypunch, Fortran in high school. Second was a PDP 4 I think, only 4 terminals at 4 was it 8k of memory each. But what hooked me into computing was he first Commodore PET machines. After that I only wanted microprocessors even though I did HP 300/3000 and MF work. Showing my age.... But at least harryk isn't as bad as some jack asses today that think Microsoft invented the Internet. But a bull****ter all the same. -- Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery. |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
On 12/17/11 3:58 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 1:17 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. Funny, you want to store a 5 mb DB in 1982, it was going to cost you a lot more than $1500 for computer and drive.... http://ns1758.ca/winch/winchest.html While Micky mouses like you were toying with 32K RAM and 360K floppies it just wasn't good enough and I required 10 mb hard drives, and printer. And while you probably used pirated copy of MS-DOS, sorry, that wouldn't work where I worked. MS-DOS was an extra charge. So was the compilers, BASIC and graphics software. Yes, graphics, while you were toying with 24 lines of 64 characters I was More on Itty Bitty Machine pricing.... http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5150.html But you add maxed out memory and double floppies, $3000, $1600 hard drive, $1000 modem plus some software it didn't take long. Printers and a plotter with autocad were not cheap either. To be honest, I can't remember the exact price tag but it was over $8000 in 1982 dollars. The point was about the early IBM PCs, **** for brains, and that was what I was basing my pricing on. My first PC didn't have a hard drive and I had no need for compilers. I used the PC for word processing and a little bit of databasing. LEss than $2000 would get you everything you needed to do what I was doing, less than 25% of the $8000 you claimed. A compiling accountant...what a laugh. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
On 12/17/2011 4:10 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 2:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article75udndIyFP6jOnbTnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. Your $1650 is bull****. He probably stuck his video cable up his ass for $1650.... and he damned things were unusable with only one floppy. Switching disks from the OS disk to the other disk, mind you better than the paper tap and thumb wheel bootstrap ones. 32k of ram, well, you wouldn't run much on that. First computer, IBM 360 keypunch, Fortran in high school. Second was a PDP 4 I think, only 4 terminals at 4 was it 8k of memory each. But what hooked me into computing was he first Commodore PET machines. After that I only wanted microprocessors even though I did HP 300/3000 and MF work. Showing my age.... But at least harryk isn't as bad as some jack asses today that think Microsoft invented the Internet. But a bull****ter all the same. Naw. Harry Krause knows that Al Gore invented the Internet. |
Why I Like Apple Products, continued
In article , dump-on-
says... On 12/17/11 3:58 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 1:17 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote: I remember when we got our first office pc... Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity. Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980 dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K today. Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further, IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA. I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a dealer in Northern Virginia. So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you have no real knowledge of actual history in any area. Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not $8000 or anything near that. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra. Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem, printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the "Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard drives. So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra. So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a usable system was $8000. I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software. Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****. Funny, you want to store a 5 mb DB in 1982, it was going to cost you a lot more than $1500 for computer and drive.... http://ns1758.ca/winch/winchest.html While Micky mouses like you were toying with 32K RAM and 360K floppies it just wasn't good enough and I required 10 mb hard drives, and printer. And while you probably used pirated copy of MS-DOS, sorry, that wouldn't work where I worked. MS-DOS was an extra charge. So was the compilers, BASIC and graphics software. Yes, graphics, while you were toying with 24 lines of 64 characters I was More on Itty Bitty Machine pricing.... http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5150.html But you add maxed out memory and double floppies, $3000, $1600 hard drive, $1000 modem plus some software it didn't take long. Printers and a plotter with autocad were not cheap either. To be honest, I can't remember the exact price tag but it was over $8000 in 1982 dollars. The point was about the early IBM PCs, **** for brains, and that was what I was basing my pricing on. My first PC didn't have a hard drive and I had no need for compilers. I used the PC for word processing and a little bit of databasing. LEss than $2000 would get you everything you needed to do what I was doing, less than 25% of the $8000 you claimed. A compiling accountant...what a laugh. Unlike you, a lot of people actually have more than one skill. All you have is your blowhard bull****, and now that everyone here knows what a coward you are, even that is gone. |
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