On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 12/15/11 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote:
Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM

Diagnosis...bad video card
Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card
permanently attached to motherboard.

Problem Description/Diagnosis
Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video
Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test
Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB
Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear
Known Liquid Damage: No
Check-in Required: Yes
Username: na
Password: na
Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their
computer is being serviced?: No
Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours
Mac OS Version: 10.7.2
Hard Drive Size: 200 GB
Memory Size: 4 GB
iLife Version: 09

Employee ##########

Repair Estimate
Item Number Description Price Amount Due
661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00
S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00

Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00


A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of
warranty...it's
almost four years old.

Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back
this
week.

I like the ones that don't need repair.



BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it
out
good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and
without
an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the
parts changer replaced...snerk


It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a
responsible father.

That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach
your kid some self discipline.




Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her
frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we
didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we
would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track.

Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal?

Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young.



Far be it from me to stick up for iSnotty, but, really, his kid had a
perfectly reasonable and nor uncommon mishap with her computer. I doubt
it had anything to do with being "careful." **** happens.

If only that condom hadn't slipped off your dad's dick, eh? He wasn't
careful and maybe he was young.

This from the "cultured and refined" Harry Krause....

In article cf7f5508-a616-41e1-b669-c356b84b5ff3
@z1g2000vbx.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 15, 3:12*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 12/15/11 1:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:





On 14/12/2011 2:27 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/14/2011 4:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 3:24 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/13/11 5:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/13/2011 3:06 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/12/2011 9:26 AM, X ` Man wrote:
Had a 9:45 AM appointment at Apple this am, gone by 10 AM

Diagnosis...bad video card
Solution....replace main logic board (motherboard). Video card
permanently attached to motherboard.

Problem Description/Diagnosis
Issue: Customer states machine has garbled video
Steps to reproduce: Physically observed. Fail Nvidia test
Proposed Resolution: Replace MLB
Cosmetic Condition: Normal wear
Known Liquid Damage: No
Check-in Required: Yes
Username: na
Password: na
Would the customer prefer to create a temporary password while their
computer is being serviced?: No
Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you within 48 hours
Mac OS Version: 10.7.2
Hard Drive Size: 200 GB
Memory Size: 4 GB
iLife Version: 09

Employee ##########

Repair Estimate
Item Number Description Price Amount Due
661-4960 PCBA MLB 2.4 GHZ REV2 $ 487.5 $ 0.00
S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00

Total (Tax not included) $ 526.50 $ 0.00

A $526.50 repair at no cost to me, and machine is out of
warranty...it's
almost four years old.

Basically, I'll have a brand new machine when I get the laptop back
this
week.

I like the ones that don't need repair.

BFD, my daughter poured cokeacola on hers, three years old, burnt it
out
good. Sent it out, bot it back a week later, working, clean, and
without
an over inflated RO attached to it or a big heroic story of what the
parts changer replaced...snerk

It's too bad she didn't spill coke on you 18 years ago, and get back a
responsible father.

That isn't a product flaw, that is user negligence. You should teach
your kid some self discipline.

Are you kidding me? She fell next to her desk with a cup of coke in her
frekin' hand. Don't be a dope... And "negligence" would have been if we
didn't buy the extra "everything included" replacement policy knowing we
would be using the thing in the garage, and at the motocross track.

Why? You think pouring coffee and coke into a computer is normal?

Most people lernt o be careful. But then again she is young.

Far be it from me to stick up for iSnotty, but, really, his kid had a
perfectly reasonable and nor uncommon mishap with her computer. I doubt
it had anything to do with being "careful." **** happens.

If only that condom hadn't slipped off your dad's dick, eh? *He wasn't
careful and maybe he was young.

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I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.

You government public servants had it made, Suckling Don the Coward!

On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old 1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted
hard drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.
--
Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of
terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery.

On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.

Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to
no one, I might add.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

In article m,
says...

On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.

Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to
no one, I might add.

Of course he's a liar! Most cowards are.

On 16/12/2011 12:21 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is
$22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't
anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area,
from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty,
you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.

Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to
no one, I might add.

Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards
and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus.
Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used
the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped.
Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when
it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we
didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed
half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too
expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities.

harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone
that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when
things started working. But management back then saw through the crap.

harryk is a bull****ting idiot.

--
Corrupt USA, Euro Bank and Military Regime, funding both sides of
terrorism for profit and debt-tax slavery.

On 12/16/2011 2:52 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 12:21 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was
allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is
$22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't
anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made."
Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area,
from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty,
you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.

Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to
no one, I might add.

Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards and
ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus. Worked
in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used the
custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped. Even
burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when it
was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we
didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed
half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too
expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities.

harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone
that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when
things started working. But management back then saw through the crap.

harryk is a bull****ting idiot.


Our first home Pc cost about $2000. It was a 16 mhz with a 20 meg hdd...
Printer, monitor, key, mouse.

In article ,
says...

On 16/12/2011 12:21 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 12/16/2011 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is
$22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't
anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area,
from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty,
you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.

Apparently Harry the K has been caught in yet another lie. A surprise to
no one, I might add.

Yes he has. I know as at the time I built clone PCs from bare boards
and ICs, burned PROMs, even designed adapter cards for the ISA bus.
Worked in the engineering department at NorTel at the time as we used
the custom systems for manufacturing and for the products we shipped.
Even burned PROMs with out custom code. Back then I was a "hacker" when
it was deemed good. Even wrote a distributed RS232 serial network so we
didn't have to buy $1000++ Ethernet cards with drivers that consumed
half the systems resource and memory. Plus the thick cables were too
expensive to run 100's of meters through the facilities.

harryk might have pioneered being a "hanger". A hanger being someone
that didn't know **** about computers but wanted the lime light when
things started working. But management back then saw through the crap.

harryk is a bull****ting idiot.

Harry was never a hanger, just a narcissist on rec.boats that MUST try
to one-up anything anybody says or has. Hence the constant lying.

On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator is $22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made." Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area, from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy, iSnotty, you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.


I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with
one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software.
Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****.

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