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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:47:21 -0500, Drifter wrote:
I assume that you say drug use is a "victimless" crime. I strongly disagree on that point. === There are plenty of very legitimate issues with drug use but you can't control that aspect by making drugs illegal. Exactly the same as prohibition - if people want to buy something, they'll find a way and others will be there to help them and profit. |
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In article om, .
@..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. |
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On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On 12/12/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote:
Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Well, that ought to cut down on the number of obnoxious, right-wing assholes like you. Will you wear a target on your foreheads? |
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On 12/12/2011 8:31 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/12/11 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Well, that ought to cut down on the number of obnoxious, right-wing assholes like you. Will you wear a target on your foreheads? Would that make it easier for you to take aim at a human? -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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In article m,
says... On 12/11/2011 3:05 PM, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:16:47 -0500, wrote: On 12/11/2011 1:16 PM, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. I C If it's difficult to police then legalize it. Does that make sense? It is easy for the police, they love the Rambo aspect of kicking down doors and slapping people around. It is just hard on the tax payer and the innocent people who end up paying for it or just get swept up in the violence (narco or police) I suppose you thought alcohol prohibition was a great idea too. There are far more parallels than differences. In fact the laws against pot were strengthened in the 30s to fill the gap when all of the prohibition agents were laid off. There was more than just a little racism involved too. Pot was seen as being a black and latino drug of choice while middle class people just got drunk on the "good" drug. Alcohol abuse often has the same result as drug use. I don't know of any drug, alcohol included, that enhances your senses, awareness, and motor control. I suppose that is why employers frown upon the use of any of those substances in the workplace. Gosh, they've even banned smoking,"for the public good". It's tough when people can't act responsibly. They have to be regulated and I know you don't like it. Most employers are just looking at the bottom line. The insurance carriers give them a discount if the implement strict drug and alcohol use restrictions. |
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On Dec 12, 9:29*am, Drifter wrote:
On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You *seem to be extremely interested in getting *Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. * The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. * *Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. * Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. * Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? |
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On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... |
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On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On Dec 12, 10:53*am, JustWait wrote:
On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns *weather* it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What has the "weather" got to do with anything? |
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can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A young girl Snotty's size got attacked and killed hiking in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park by a pack of coyotes. Not sure if 'carrying a stick' would have saved her. |
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On 12/12/2011 9:57 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. One person suffers a dog bite and you strap on heat like Rambo. What kind of pussy are you? -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On 12/12/11 10:19 AM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:53 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns *weather* it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What has the "weather" got to do with anything? Why bother with the little ****'s misuse of words when there is so much else about him worthy of criticizing? :) I love his recollection of what his dad did to ward off neighborhood dogs, and how that relates not at all to packs of wild dogs out in the forest. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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In article om, .
@..com says... On 12/12/2011 9:57 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. One person suffers a dog bite and you strap on heat like Rambo. What kind of pussy are you? He and Don are vying for who's the biggest coward here. It's a toss up. What is funny is how they don't even mind showing everyone here just how cowardly they are! |
Another Virgina Tech shooting
On 12/12/11 10:23 AM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:57 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A young girl Snotty's size got attacked and killed hiking in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park by a pack of coyotes. Not sure if 'carrying a stick' would have saved her. There have been a few bear attacks out there by the Shenandoah, and there have been sightings reported of mountain lions, though those reports haven't been verified by the rangers working the territory. A stick would be enough to ward off an iSnotty, an iLoogy, or an iFlaJim, but certainly not a pack of feral dogs or a ****ed-off bear. Of course, an eight year old girl could ward off an iSnotty with a tennis ball. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
Another Virgina Tech shooting
On 12/12/2011 11:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/12/11 10:23 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 10:57 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A young girl Snotty's size got attacked and killed hiking in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park by a pack of coyotes. Not sure if 'carrying a stick' would have saved her. There have been a few bear attacks out there by the Shenandoah, and there have been sightings reported of mountain lions, though those reports haven't been verified by the rangers working the territory. A stick would be enough to ward off an iSnotty, an iLoogy, or an iFlaJim, but certainly not a pack of feral dogs or a ****ed-off bear. Of course, an eight year old girl could ward off an iSnotty with a tennis ball. We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. If you are afraid of the creatures in the forest, Krause, stay out of the forest. It doesn't take a liberal arts student to figure that out. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On 12/12/2011 11:54 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 12/12/2011 11:14 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 10:23 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 10:57 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A young girl Snotty's size got attacked and killed hiking in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park by a pack of coyotes. Not sure if 'carrying a stick' would have saved her. There have been a few bear attacks out there by the Shenandoah, and there have been sightings reported of mountain lions, though those reports haven't been verified by the rangers working the territory. A stick would be enough to ward off an iSnotty, an iLoogy, or an iFlaJim, but certainly not a pack of feral dogs or a ****ed-off bear. Of course, an eight year old girl could ward off an iSnotty with a tennis ball. We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. If you are afraid of the creatures in the forest, Krause, stay out of the forest. It doesn't take a liberal arts student to figure that out. Oh, Dr. Karen Grear of American University is just trolling again... |
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On 12/12/11 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:54:26 -0500, wrote: We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. Most pocket handguns (38/9mm) would just **** off a bear. Sort of depends on the bear, eh? Or have you surveyed florida bears? -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On 12/12/11 3:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/12/2011 3:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:54:26 -0500, wrote: We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. Most pocket handguns (38/9mm) would just **** off a bear. Well, like most of his dumb posts, he changed the rules from dogs to bears, to make a point but as usual, he really didn't think it out... Sure I did. I can think, and I have a knowledge base. That is one of the many things that differentiate us. You're stupid, uneducated and don't know anything. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On 12/12/11 4:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:06:22 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 3:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:54:26 -0500, wrote: We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. Most pocket handguns (38/9mm) would just **** off a bear. Sort of depends on the bear, eh? Or have you surveyed florida bears? The bears around here are pretty tame. I have not heard of any showing any aggression and people are chasing them out of their yards once or twice a month. It is still an animal that is 150-200 pounds and has the ability to do some damage if you get him ****ed at you. I doubt a 9mm is going to stop one before he gets to you. Depends on the bear and the shooter, eh? I've seen bear tracks out at the Shenandoah and a buddy with an adjacent property has a natural rock cave on his property that families of smaller bears use. Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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says... On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:06:22 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 3:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:54:26 -0500, wrote: We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. Most pocket handguns (38/9mm) would just **** off a bear. Sort of depends on the bear, eh? Or have you surveyed florida bears? The bears around here are pretty tame. I have not heard of any showing any aggression and people are chasing them out of their yards once or twice a month. It is still an animal that is 150-200 pounds and has the ability to do some damage if you get him ****ed at you. I doubt a 9mm is going to stop one before he gets to you. I've camped in a tent in grizzly country many times, I've camped in a tent in cougar country many times, and I've camped in a tent in wilderness areas so remote Harry couldn't dream of going there. I've never carried a gun and feel no need to. Common sense and a working brain will work! |
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On 12/12/11 4:58 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:43:45 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 4:33 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:06:22 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 3:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:54:26 -0500, wrote: We came across a bear crossing the road last Sunday. I had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting it. It didn't occur to me to whip out a gun and shoot it. Most pocket handguns (38/9mm) would just **** off a bear. Sort of depends on the bear, eh? Or have you surveyed florida bears? The bears around here are pretty tame. I have not heard of any showing any aggression and people are chasing them out of their yards once or twice a month. It is still an animal that is 150-200 pounds and has the ability to do some damage if you get him ****ed at you. I doubt a 9mm is going to stop one before he gets to you. Depends on the bear and the shooter, eh? I've seen bear tracks out at the Shenandoah and a buddy with an adjacent property has a natural rock cave on his property that families of smaller bears use. Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. You go first ;-) I haven't had to shoot any animals and I hope I never have to do so. I'm not concerned about bears out at the Shenandoah, but the packs of wild dogs concern lots of residents and visitors out there. I've read enough about bullet impact to know that if I had to drop a thug with a 9mm, I could do so. I only use the "cheap" ammo for target practice. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot 9MM +P 124 grain hollowpoints: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YcwaMwB13Gg I don't like the higher grain count 9MM rounds. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On 12/12/11 5:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:58:11 -0500, wrote: Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. You go first ;-) === We could sell a lot of tickets to that event. :-) Especially if you were wearing a bear suit. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On 12/12/11 7:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 4:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:43:45 -0500, X ` Man Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. You go first ;-) I haven't had to shoot any animals and I hope I never have to do so. I'm not concerned about bears out at the Shenandoah, but the packs of wild dogs concern lots of residents and visitors out there. I've read enough about bullet impact to know that if I had to drop a thug with a 9mm, I could do so. I only use the "cheap" ammo for target practice. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot 9MM +P 124 grain hollowpoints: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YcwaMwB13Gg I don't like the higher grain count 9MM rounds. I think if you had actually shot a few animals you would find out they are a lot tougher that you think. It is no accident that people use slugs in shotguns or center fire rifles to hunt bears and a bear hunter still gets mauled occasionally by a bear with a couple of bullet holes in him. 9mm is barely enough to call a self defense round against 2 legged animals, even with high performance bullets. Cops use them, simply because of the perception that more rounds in the magazine will make up for mediocre terminal performance. It is no accident that the FBI uses a 40 cal. ..40 S&W produces too much muzzle flip for real accuracy and is also a lot louder than 9mm. 9 mm is a fine self-defense round for someone who knows how to shoot a pistol. Terminal performance is not an issue in most armed encounters, where the range typically is less than 15 feet. At that distance, I can put 10 rounds in a damned small circle, even if I am firing rapidly. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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North Star wrote:
On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? It works for Harry so it's got to be good for everyone! -HB (Snacks!) |
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Drifter wrote:
On 12/12/2011 9:57 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:53 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:51 AM, Drifter wrote: On 12/12/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/12/11 9:18 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 12, 9:29 am, wrote: On 12/12/2011 7:45 AM, BAR wrote: In raweb.com, . @..com says... On 12/11/2011 2:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:16:42 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:46:07 -0500, wrote: You seem to be extremely interested in getting Mary Jane legalized. Do you have an appetite for the stuff? The real reason a lot of us want to see this legalized is because the war on drugs has become one of the worst examples of a bloated government program that simply wastes tons of money and returns nothing to the tax payer. The blow back has resulted in some of the worst constitutional assaults (profiling,.warrentless car searches, warrantless aerial surveillance with IR imagery, warrantless wire taps, financial monitoring and the list goes on) Most of the abuses in the patriot act have been SOP for the DEA for years. === In addition to that, the "war on drugs" has become very much like prohibition. The demand is there, the consumers are there, so a huge illicit and illegal industry has sprung up to keep the market supplied. Profits of this industry are artificially inflated because of the illegality, and because of the huge profits, corruption and crime run rampant everywhere the drug trade operates. Like prohibition the supporting criminal supply network is far worse than the original problem. Everyone wanted to make drugs illegal to protect their children but the kids are getting drugs anyway along with the societal problems of the drug industry which have become pervasive. The war on drugs is unwinable. The war on crime is unwinable. The war on terrorism is unwinable. Wars, the way we fight them, are unwinable. Let's abandon those efforts. We should also can all laws and the IRS code in favor of the ten commandments. Then we won't need no steeenkin lawyers no more. Require everyone 18 and over to carry a loaded pistol. Yup. Condition 1. Then see how ****heads like Krause behave. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would packin' heat make y'all feel like big brave men? Being in the navy didn't... I doubt if navy men would need to strap on heat to take a walk in the Virginia woods, for protection against , get this, dogs. Cowboy Harry doesn't feel safe unless he is surrounded by his guns. He carries for DOGS!?? Holy ****, my 90 year old dad just carried a walking stick for that... What an asshole. All you got to do is wave a stick at most dogs and they will run, but Harry Krause is just dying to see what he can do to flesh with his widdew capguns weather it be a human or now even an innocent dog... asshole... Hehehe. Morons. We're talking about packs of feral dogs loose in the Shenandoah hills and valleys. There were several packs running loose a couple of years ago, and there were attacks on hikers. One hiker and his buddies had just returned from a major trail to a parking area and was attacked and severely bitten by feral dogs. The "expertise" you assholes don't have is just...astonishing. These packs of feral dogs, if they are still around, would love to snack on a greasy little **** like you, iSnotty. One person suffers a dog bite and you strap on heat like Rambo. What kind of pussy are you? Paranoid, obviously. -HB (Pistachios!) |
Another Virgina Tech shooting
On Dec 12, 6:43*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 7:22 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500, X ` Man *wrote: On 12/12/11 4:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:43:45 -0500, X ` Man Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. You go first *;-) I haven't had to shoot any animals and I hope I never have to do so. I'm not concerned about bears out at the Shenandoah, but the packs of wild dogs concern lots of residents and visitors out there. I've read enough about bullet impact to know that if I had to drop a thug with a 9mm, I could do so. I only use the "cheap" ammo for target practice. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot 9MM +P 124 grain hollowpoints: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YcwaMwB13Gg I don't like the higher grain count 9MM rounds. I think if you had actually shot a few animals you would find out they are a lot tougher that you think. It is no accident that people use slugs in shotguns or center fire rifles to hunt bears and a bear hunter still gets mauled occasionally by a bear with a couple of bullet holes in him. 9mm is barely enough to call a self defense round against 2 legged animals, even with high performance bullets. Cops use them, simply because of the perception that more rounds in the magazine will make up for mediocre terminal performance. It is no accident that the FBI uses a 40 cal. .40 S&W produces too much muzzle flip for real accuracy and is also a lot louder than 9mm. 9 mm is a fine self-defense round for someone who knows how to shoot a pistol. Terminal performance is not an issue in most armed encounters, where the range typically is less than 15 feet. At that distance, I can put 10 rounds in a damned small circle, even if I am firing rapidly. I don't have a 9mm but I do have a .380 and yes, at 15 ft. I can put about 3 rd.s in a 3" circle. However, I also have a 45ACP AMT Hardballer, AND an original 1917 issue Colt 1911A . I use hand drilled, hollow point, lead wad cutters in both. And with either. I can put 1 slug through a 3" circle. And in a "have to" situation, that's all that would be necessary. |
Another Virgina Tech shooting
On Dec 12, 10:28*pm, Tim wrote:
On Dec 12, 6:43*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 7:22 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500, X ` Man *wrote: On 12/12/11 4:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:43:45 -0500, X ` Man Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. You go first *;-) I haven't had to shoot any animals and I hope I never have to do so. I'm not concerned about bears out at the Shenandoah, but the packs of wild dogs concern lots of residents and visitors out there. I've read enough about bullet impact to know that if I had to drop a thug with a 9mm, I could do so. I only use the "cheap" ammo for target practice. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot 9MM +P 124 grain hollowpoints: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YcwaMwB13Gg I don't like the higher grain count 9MM rounds. I think if you had actually shot a few animals you would find out they are a lot tougher that you think. It is no accident that people use slugs in shotguns or center fire rifles to hunt bears and a bear hunter still gets mauled occasionally by a bear with a couple of bullet holes in him. 9mm is barely enough to call a self defense round against 2 legged animals, even with high performance bullets. Cops use them, simply because of the perception that more rounds in the magazine will make up for mediocre terminal performance. It is no accident that the FBI uses a 40 cal. .40 S&W produces too much muzzle flip for real accuracy and is also a lot louder than 9mm. 9 mm is a fine self-defense round for someone who knows how to shoot a pistol. Terminal performance is not an issue in most armed encounters, where the range typically is less than 15 feet. At that distance, I can put 10 rounds in a damned small circle, even if I am firing rapidly. I don't have a 9mm but I do have a .380 and yes, at 15 ft. I can put about 3 rd.s in a 3" circle. However, I also have a 45ACP AMT Hardballer, *AND an original 1917 issue Colt 1911A . I use hand drilled, hollow point, lead wad cutters in both. And with either. I can put 1 slug through a 3" circle. *And in a "have to" situation, that's all that would be necessary. The 1917 is box stock with a horrendous trigger pull so I don't shot it much, but the AMT has been tricked by a gun smith who himself shoots silhouette competition. Really nice pistol |
Another Virgina Tech shooting
On Dec 13, 1:31*am, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 12, 6:43*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/12/11 7:22 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:11:09 -0500, X ` Man *wrote: On 12/12/11 4:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:43:45 -0500, X ` Man Oh, a 200-pound mammal, man or otherwise, is not that hard to stop with a few shots from a 9mm pistol. You go first *;-) I haven't had to shoot any animals and I hope I never have to do so.. I'm not concerned about bears out at the Shenandoah, but the packs of wild dogs concern lots of residents and visitors out there. I've read enough about bullet impact to know that if I had to drop a thug with a 9mm, I could do so. I only use the "cheap" ammo for target practice. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot 9MM +P 124 grain hollowpoints: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YcwaMwB13Gg I don't like the higher grain count 9MM rounds. I think if you had actually shot a few animals you would find out they are a lot tougher that you think. It is no accident that people use slugs in shotguns or center fire rifles to hunt bears and a bear hunter still gets mauled occasionally by a bear with a couple of bullet holes in him. 9mm is barely enough to call a self defense round against 2 legged animals, even with high performance bullets. Cops use them, simply because of the perception that more rounds in the magazine will make up for mediocre terminal performance. It is no accident that the FBI uses a 40 cal. .40 S&W produces too much muzzle flip for real accuracy and is also a lot louder than 9mm. 9 mm is a fine self-defense round for someone who knows how to shoot a pistol. Terminal performance is not an issue in most armed encounters, where the range typically is less than 15 feet. At that distance, I can put 10 rounds in a damned small circle, even if I am firing rapidly. I don't have a 9mm but I do have a .380 and yes, at 15 ft. I can put about 3 rd.s in a 3" circle. However, I also have a 45ACP AMT Hardballer, *AND an original 1917 issue Colt 1911A . I use hand drilled, hollow point, lead wad cutters in both. And with either. I can put 1 slug through a 3" circle. *And in a "have to" situation, that's all that would be necessary. I have a .380 I can hit things with too but I am not expecting a lot of stopping power out of it. This is a .380 round bouncing off a hard drive. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bad%20W-D.jpg A .45 will get the job done. 22's are far more lethal. It has been proven. They enter one place, bounce around, and exit another. Very Lethal. |
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