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On 11/24/11 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:32:17 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

The problem is in taxing and controlling it. Alcohol, Tobacco, and
Prescription drugs need expensive materials, and expensive equipment to
refine and deliver the product the public is used to. If you tried to
manufacture/grow these items in any quantity and produce a product that
looked/smoked/tasted/performed like the retail product there would be a
big trail right to your door of evidence of the process/production. To
deliver pot in a form that is acceptable you need a box of baggies, and
a closet, some water and a light... The finished product from a kid and
his closet is easily as refined, and marketable as any huge operation
could produce. It would be entirely impossible to tell if someone
smoking legally on the street corner paid tax on the smoke or grew it
themselves...

People are lazy. The main reason why people don't make their own beer
is that it is hard to do. Growing decent pot is more complicated than
just throwing some seeds in the yard. If what I see on TV is accurate
about the California growers, it is pretty labor intensive.

The Humbolt County Sheriff even has a solution for that. You buy a tax
band for each plant you grow. No tax band, you go to jail for tax
evasion.

Anything would be better than what they are doing now. The government
is not getting any tax revenue, there is a trail of bodies in the
street from here to Mexico, we have a million people in prison and
there is still absolutely zero control of the illegal market.
Do you think there is anyone who wants drugs and can't get them?

We already did this and figured out that alcohol was bad but banning
it was worse, we are now seeing the exact same thing playing out with
other drugs.

Try making beer at home or wine for that matter without material in the
bottom of the bottle. The filter systems the big manufacturers use is a
lot more than you will run in your kitchen on any scale... Try growing
enough tobacco and processing it to burn and taste right. And no, it's
not hard to grow great pot, I used to know folks who did it.

On the other hand, why make beer or wine? You can make ass kicking rum
with nothing but molasses or sugar, a cube of yeast, a big pressure
cooker and some copper tubing. I have made plenty of various liquors
over the years.
Want to clean up the taste, put it in a jug with activated charcoal
for a few months. Filter and drink.
You can even get that "oak aged" taste by charring chunks of oak with
a propane torch and throwing them in the jug.

I am still not sure why filtering wine is tricky. You just use a
coffee filter like you do with the rum.

I had inlaws who raised tobacco in Md. Other than being a little labor
intensive, keeping the worms off, it is no harder to grow than
tomatoes. The main problem is getting the quota from the state to sell
it. I am really surprised more people don't have it in their garden
with the price of tobacco products these days.

I suppose if you drink a lot or smoke a lot, home brew can be a moneysaver.

Unlike you, some people do things because they find it interesting. It's
called a hobby, too bad you don't have one.

Drifter[_2_]

On 11/25/2011 8:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/24/11 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:32:17 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

The problem is in taxing and controlling it. Alcohol, Tobacco, and
Prescription drugs need expensive materials, and expensive equipment to
refine and deliver the product the public is used to. If you tried to
manufacture/grow these items in any quantity and produce a product that
looked/smoked/tasted/performed like the retail product there would be a
big trail right to your door of evidence of the process/production. To
deliver pot in a form that is acceptable you need a box of baggies, and
a closet, some water and a light... The finished product from a kid and
his closet is easily as refined, and marketable as any huge operation
could produce. It would be entirely impossible to tell if someone
smoking legally on the street corner paid tax on the smoke or grew it
themselves...

People are lazy. The main reason why people don't make their own beer
is that it is hard to do. Growing decent pot is more complicated than
just throwing some seeds in the yard. If what I see on TV is accurate
about the California growers, it is pretty labor intensive.

The Humbolt County Sheriff even has a solution for that. You buy a tax
band for each plant you grow. No tax band, you go to jail for tax
evasion.

Anything would be better than what they are doing now. The government
is not getting any tax revenue, there is a trail of bodies in the
street from here to Mexico, we have a million people in prison and
there is still absolutely zero control of the illegal market.
Do you think there is anyone who wants drugs and can't get them?

We already did this and figured out that alcohol was bad but banning
it was worse, we are now seeing the exact same thing playing out with
other drugs.

Try making beer at home or wine for that matter without material in the
bottom of the bottle. The filter systems the big manufacturers use is a
lot more than you will run in your kitchen on any scale... Try growing
enough tobacco and processing it to burn and taste right. And no, it's
not hard to grow great pot, I used to know folks who did it.

On the other hand, why make beer or wine? You can make ass kicking rum
with nothing but molasses or sugar, a cube of yeast, a big pressure
cooker and some copper tubing. I have made plenty of various liquors
over the years.
Want to clean up the taste, put it in a jug with activated charcoal
for a few months. Filter and drink.
You can even get that "oak aged" taste by charring chunks of oak with
a propane torch and throwing them in the jug.

I am still not sure why filtering wine is tricky. You just use a
coffee filter like you do with the rum.

I had inlaws who raised tobacco in Md. Other than being a little labor
intensive, keeping the worms off, it is no harder to grow than
tomatoes. The main problem is getting the quota from the state to sell
it. I am really surprised more people don't have it in their garden
with the price of tobacco products these days.

I suppose if you drink a lot or smoke a lot, home brew can be a moneysaver.

Unlike you, some people do things because they find it interesting. It's
called a hobby, too bad you don't have one.

Some people squander their money on toys they don't play with. It
puzzles me that they expect other peoples hobbies be cost effective.
e.g. You might have heard someone saying "What do you need that big
truck for? A highlander is all you really need."

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