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RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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m... On 11/28/11 7:36 PM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe you did it that way. But I had licensed drivers. I owned a construction equipment leasing company. I do not think we ever had a Hispanic employee. They would have probably worked harder and more reliably than some we had. I had city permits, state permits, paid FUTA, sales tax, and all those others fees. Only time I hired illegals is because the ones I requested from the Calif EDD did not show up to clean up the In-laws house for sale. Same people who probably claim they can not get a job. Now you, most likely would hire a cheap illegal to build that deck as you are incapable of doing the job yourself. Uh, that's not how you ran your retirement business, according to your own words here. Oh...the deck guy? Local carpenter's apprentice, by now a journeyman. Born right here in the county. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug ---------------------------------------------- My retirement business never hired workers. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote:
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RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
John H wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. Try this.... http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/30/2011 8:21 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. Try this.... http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf -HB Noice... how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend? |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:25:26 -0500, JustWait
wrote: how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend? === Depends on how you use it. It comes with a 260 hp diesel. At 80% of wide open throttle it will probably plane off at 18 to 20 kts if you don't load it too heavily. At that speed it will be burning about 10 gallons per hour. If you back off to 50% of WOT fuel burn will drop to 6 or 7 gph but speed will be quite a bit slower, most likely not on plane. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:21:34 -0500, Honey Badger wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. Try this.... http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf -HB Thanks. That's a nice looking boat. And, it appears that the Dodge Ram 2500 diesel has about 22K lbs towing capacity, so it should handle that pretty well - if you can stand riding in a Dodge pickup. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:09:29 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:25:26 -0500, JustWait wrote: how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend? === Depends on how you use it. It comes with a 260 hp diesel. At 80% of wide open throttle it will probably plane off at 18 to 20 kts if you don't load it too heavily. At that speed it will be burning about 10 gallons per hour. If you back off to 50% of WOT fuel burn will drop to 6 or 7 gph but speed will be quite a bit slower, most likely not on plane. You overestimate the fuel burn by about 50%. It isn't a trawler, it has a high speed flat bottom planing hull with a keel, a huge foot deep skeg under the aft third. protecting the prop and rudder, bulged to lower the engine and reduce the shaft angle. It will do 29 kts at WOT, 4050 RPM, burning 13.6 gph.. 3.9kt at 670 RPM on .3 gph. At 1000 RPM, 5.4 on .6 thats 10 mpg at Manatee speed. It planes at 1400. 3000 RPM burns 6.6 at 18.6. Seems to be the speed for best mpg. At 3500 RPM, probably about max continuous,you get 23. Where I have been boating for 57 years, Spirit Lake, on the Iowa/Minnesota border, it is less than 10 minutes run from anywhere to our beach. Easy to find with Google maps. Casady |
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