On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:38:21 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:59:10 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


You should come up here and try it. But I don't think you can get in on
welfare and with a criminal record.

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


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Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:38:21 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:59:10 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


You should come up here and try it. But I don't think you can get in on
welfare and with a criminal record.

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


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I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal

On 11/27/11 5:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare ) card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal



There's a myth perpetuated by the right that the gravely ill without
money or health insurance get good treatment by showing up at the ER.
That claim is just plain bull****. All they get, if they get treated at
all, is short term stabilization.

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On 11/27/2011 5:26 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/27/11 5:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare )
card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large
bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine.
And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal



There's a myth perpetuated by the right that the gravely ill without
money or health insurance get good treatment by showing up at the ER.
That claim is just plain bull****. All they get, if they get treated at
all, is short term stabilization.


Might be true in bomfoch Maryland but not here. I have veeery reliable
sources.

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On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:26:37 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/27/11 5:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal



There's a myth perpetuated by the right that the gravely ill without
money or health insurance get good treatment by showing up at the ER.
That claim is just plain bull****. All they get, if they get treated at
all, is short term stabilization.


exactly right. we often transport the same people over a period of a
few weeks or even days because of untreatrd problems that were
stablized in the ED

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:41:51 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

gee. you should try to get medical care in the US withut insurance

ever try it?


--------------------------------------------------
Just show up at the emergency room. If you have a MediCal (welfare )
card,
you go to a doctors office. Not all doctors take MediCal but a large
bunch
do.
How about facts from the State of California Government.
http://www.fixourhealthcare.ca.gov/i...cts/more/6771/

i'm an EMT. we take lots of cancer and heart patients to the ED.
unfortunately this is because they couldnt get medical care so a
treatable problem turned into an expensive emergency

if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:16:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

let's see.

donald trump, a billionaire, goes bankrupt and sticks his employees
and his creditors, while retaining bliions

joe sixpack goex bankrupt because his employer got wiped out by the
bubble

and he has to go homeless

yeah. that's conservative thinking

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:16:48 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .


if they survived at all.

so you're wrong


-----------------------------------------------------
I guess the state of California is wrong. Their statement no mine. And
if
you have no assets, you go on welfare. You are probably taking heart and
cancer people to emergency for emergency reasons. Not for normal care.

no, you dont 'go on welfare'. if you are unemployed you dont get ****.
you die.

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

let's see.

donald trump, a billionaire, goes bankrupt and sticks his employees
and his creditors, while retaining bliions

joe sixpack goex bankrupt because his employer got wiped out by the
bubble

and he has to go homeless

yeah. that's conservative thinking


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I have a friend who knows The Donald. He says he is probably only worth a
few million. Mostly he is a front for others. Owe enough and the bank can
not foreclose. Same reason they have not foreclosed on a lot of houses.
They would be under capitalized.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:27:52 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

and you seem not to understand that routine illnesses, left
unattended, often become emergencies...sometimes fatal


--------------------------------------------------

So if you have assets they will take them and then you go on welfare. Why
should you get to keep your assets when the public is paying the doctor?
After you lose your job and spent all your money berthing a boat instead of
buying insurance.

let's see.

donald trump, a billionaire, goes bankrupt and sticks his employees
and his creditors, while retaining bliions

joe sixpack goex bankrupt because his employer got wiped out by the
bubble

and he has to go homeless

yeah. that's conservative thinking


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a friend who knows The Donald. He says he is probably only worth a
few million. Mostly he is a front for others. Owe enough and the bank can
not foreclose. Same reason they have not foreclosed on a lot of houses.
They would be under capitalized.

breaks my heart...only a few million...

yep...banks will not foreclose. as keynes said 'if you owe the bank a
thousand, you have a problem...if you owe them a million, they have a
problem'

another example of how the wealthy skate by...