On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:18:02 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:18:32 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:59:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:39:33 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

not enough. not enough at all. they pay 15%. i pay 28%

Bull****.

If you pay 28% you are one of the 1%.

Two people, no kids, making a combined $100k end up paying about 11%
taking the standard deduction.

not too smart are you? 28% is middle class income:

http://taxes.about.com/od/Federal-In...1-Tax-Year.htm

•10% on taxable income from $0 to $8,500, plus
•15% on taxable income over $8,500 to $34,500, plus
•25% on taxable income over $34,500 to $83,600, plus
•28% on taxable income over $83,600 to $174,400, plus
•33% on taxable income over $174,400 to $379,150, plus
•35% on taxable income over $379,150.


no wonder you're right wing. you're too stupid to be anything BUT....


Who does your taxes Bob?

Let's start with $100,000 (you can follow along with your 1040 book)
You start out reducing your taxable income by $11400 for the standard
deduction

Then you reduce it by $7300 for 2 exemptions

You have 81300 that you take to the tax table

You get $12, 694 but you are not done yet

Now you subtract $800 from that for the "make work pay" tax credit

Your tax on $100,000 is $11,894
That is 11.9%, not 28%

That is for someone with no mortgage deduction, no kids no other
deductions.

but don't let facts confuse what Olbermann is telling you.

cant read a tax table, can you?

doesnt matter what the deductions are. what matters is the marginal
tax rate. and for the middle class it's 28%. the fact the GOP wants to
eliminate the middle class deducations while eliminating ANY taxes for
the rich..AKA capital gains

go ahead...listen to talk radio. cotton candy for right wingers

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:59:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:33:45 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:
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Good Lord... does that cover both Federal and State income taxes?

That is just Federal and Florida doesn't have state income taxes.

I did run the same $100,000 against the Ontario tax web site
calculator and it was scary.

There is a "payroll" tax on wages but Obama cut that to about 5%.
(plus the employer side of 7%.)


guess he's unaware that in the US we pay for our health insurance
either by payroll deductions or when our employer pays it

not too bright, these right wingers

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:38:19 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


65% of Canada has none to low (red). No mistake why I live in Alberta.

Coincidentally or not, the red provinces are also the largest,
liberal-socialist types.

i'm willing to bet alberta has socialized medicine

so he lives in a socialist state while complaining about free market
america being a socialist state

hypocrite

On 11/23/2011 7:20 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:39:13 -0500, wrote:

On 11/22/2011 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:59:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:39:33 -0500, wrote:

not enough. not enough at all. they pay 15%. i pay 28%

Bull****.

If you pay 28% you are one of the 1%.

Two people, no kids, making a combined $100k end up paying about 11%
taking the standard deduction.

not too smart are you? 28% is middle class income:

http://taxes.about.com/od/Federal-In...1-Tax-Year.htm

•10% on taxable income from $0 to $8,500, plus
•15% on taxable income over $8,500 to $34,500, plus
•25% on taxable income over $34,500 to $83,600, plus
•28% on taxable income over $83,600 to $174,400, plus
•33% on taxable income over $174,400 to $379,150, plus
•35% on taxable income over $379,150.


no wonder you're right wing. you're too stupid to be anything BUT....


Those are the rates for "taxable" income after deductions, credits, etc.
And we do NOT pay 28% on the whole "taxable" amount. There are
brackets below the 28% bracket where the applied tax is lower.

From your cite the first 8.5K is taxed at 10%. From 8.5K to 34.5K is
taxed at 15% and so on. Thus the net percentage paid is lower that 28%
for the bracket under discussion.

But you're too stupid to know that. I hope your account is smarter than
you are.

oh. you dont know what a marginal tax rate is

even though you just defined it

yeah, you're right wing alright

Nice try at a cover up.

I never thought you would understand the meaning of marginal tax rate.

On 11/23/2011 7:24 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:18:02 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:18:32 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:59:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:39:33 -0500, wrote:

not enough. not enough at all. they pay 15%. i pay 28%

Bull****.

If you pay 28% you are one of the 1%.

Two people, no kids, making a combined $100k end up paying about 11%
taking the standard deduction.

not too smart are you? 28% is middle class income:

http://taxes.about.com/od/Federal-In...1-Tax-Year.htm

•10% on taxable income from $0 to $8,500, plus
•15% on taxable income over $8,500 to $34,500, plus
•25% on taxable income over $34,500 to $83,600, plus
•28% on taxable income over $83,600 to $174,400, plus
•33% on taxable income over $174,400 to $379,150, plus
•35% on taxable income over $379,150.


no wonder you're right wing. you're too stupid to be anything BUT....


Who does your taxes Bob?

Let's start with $100,000 (you can follow along with your 1040 book)
You start out reducing your taxable income by $11400 for the standard
deduction

Then you reduce it by $7300 for 2 exemptions

You have 81300 that you take to the tax table

You get $12, 694 but you are not done yet

Now you subtract $800 from that for the "make work pay" tax credit

Your tax on $100,000 is $11,894
That is 11.9%, not 28%

That is for someone with no mortgage deduction, no kids no other
deductions.

but don't let facts confuse what Olbermann is telling you.

cant read a tax table, can you?

doesnt matter what the deductions are. what matters is the marginal
tax rate. and for the middle class it's 28%. the fact the GOP wants to
eliminate the middle class deducations while eliminating ANY taxes for
the rich..AKA capital gains

go ahead...listen to talk radio. cotton candy for right wingers


What matters is what you pay in the end. Call it average or marginal,
what's left after the IRS takes their cut, that's what counts.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:44:21 -0500, Disgusted wrote:

On 11/23/2011 7:20 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:39:13 -0500, wrote:

On 11/22/2011 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:59:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:39:33 -0500, wrote:

not enough. not enough at all. they pay 15%. i pay 28%

Bull****.

If you pay 28% you are one of the 1%.

Two people, no kids, making a combined $100k end up paying about 11%
taking the standard deduction.

not too smart are you? 28% is middle class income:

http://taxes.about.com/od/Federal-In...1-Tax-Year.htm

•10% on taxable income from $0 to $8,500, plus
•15% on taxable income over $8,500 to $34,500, plus
•25% on taxable income over $34,500 to $83,600, plus
•28% on taxable income over $83,600 to $174,400, plus
•33% on taxable income over $174,400 to $379,150, plus
•35% on taxable income over $379,150.


no wonder you're right wing. you're too stupid to be anything BUT....


Those are the rates for "taxable" income after deductions, credits, etc.
And we do NOT pay 28% on the whole "taxable" amount. There are
brackets below the 28% bracket where the applied tax is lower.

From your cite the first 8.5K is taxed at 10%. From 8.5K to 34.5K is
taxed at 15% and so on. Thus the net percentage paid is lower that 28%
for the bracket under discussion.

But you're too stupid to know that. I hope your account is smarter than
you are.

oh. you dont know what a marginal tax rate is

even though you just defined it

yeah, you're right wing alright

Nice try at a cover up.

I never thought you would understand the meaning of marginal tax rate.

try reading a tax table. i published one above

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:35:22 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:08:37 -0500, bpuharic wrote:



try reading a tax table. i published one above

Do you just take your gross income, multiply it by the top rate and
send it in?

you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates
and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a
fact.

go ahead and argue against it. you can't. i dare you to post the tax
rates for middle class income. they are either 25 or 28%

NOW...you can bitch and moan and whine that, with deductions, the
middle class generally pays LESS than this

BUT....the FACT is the rates are as i stated they were

now, little boy, slink off into your rat hole and lick your wounds


You do understand that the tax table is progressive don't you?

just barely. and certainly NOT for capital gains which is an example
of the love affair the middle class has for the rich


There
are also deductions, exemptions and a credit available to everyone.
I am guessing the 1040 just baffles you and you pay someone to do your
taxes. I hope they are smarter than you. Well maybe not. You should
pay more just for whining.

you're an idiot

and a conservative

but i repeat myself

bet you whine and moan about the 47% who 'dont' pay taxes too...

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:31:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:24:04 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:18:02 -0500, wrote:



That is 11.9%, not 28%

That is for someone with no mortgage deduction, no kids no other
deductions.

but don't let facts confuse what Olbermann is telling you.

cant read a tax table, can you?

doesnt matter what the deductions are. what matters is the marginal
tax rate. and for the middle class it's 28%. the fact the GOP wants to
eliminate the middle class deducations while eliminating ANY taxes for
the rich..AKA capital gains

go ahead...listen to talk radio. cotton candy for right wingers


The top marginal rate doesn't mean ****.

bull****. if your income is a million bux your effective tax rate is
over 30% because almost all your income is taxed at the marginal rates

lemme ask: did you take ANY math in school? any at all?

the fact is the very rich dont pay ****.

the fact is they wrecked this economy

the fact is True Believers in the wall street cult....like you...will
always give the socialist freeloaders of wall street a free pass no
matter HOW MUCH damage they do to the economy

we capitalists are tired of your socialism. you're just another
freeloader

On 23/11/2011 5:44 PM, Disgusted wrote:
On 11/23/2011 7:20 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:39:13 -0500, wrote:

On 11/22/2011 4:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:59:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:39:33 -0500, wrote:

not enough. not enough at all. they pay 15%. i pay 28%

Bull****.

If you pay 28% you are one of the 1%.

Two people, no kids, making a combined $100k end up paying about 11%
taking the standard deduction.

not too smart are you? 28% is middle class income:

http://taxes.about.com/od/Federal-In...1-Tax-Year.htm


•10% on taxable income from $0 to $8,500, plus
•15% on taxable income over $8,500 to $34,500, plus
•25% on taxable income over $34,500 to $83,600, plus
•28% on taxable income over $83,600 to $174,400, plus
•33% on taxable income over $174,400 to $379,150, plus
•35% on taxable income over $379,150.


no wonder you're right wing. you're too stupid to be anything BUT....


Those are the rates for "taxable" income after deductions, credits, etc.
And we do NOT pay 28% on the whole "taxable" amount. There are
brackets below the 28% bracket where the applied tax is lower.

From your cite the first 8.5K is taxed at 10%. From 8.5K to 34.5K is
taxed at 15% and so on. Thus the net percentage paid is lower that 28%
for the bracket under discussion.

But you're too stupid to know that. I hope your account is smarter than
you are.

oh. you dont know what a marginal tax rate is

even though you just defined it

yeah, you're right wing alright

Nice try at a cover up.

I never thought you would understand the meaning of marginal tax rate.

Diaper wipe bpuharic cant even do the math, thinking that was the whole
tax rate table without deductions. Clearly a loser fool. My guess, is
a jailbird.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 23/11/2011 5:26 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:38:19 -0700,
wrote:


65% of Canada has none to low (red). No mistake why I live in Alberta.

Coincidentally or not, the red provinces are also the largest,
liberal-socialist types.

i'm willing to bet alberta has socialized medicine

so he lives in a socialist state while complaining about free market
america being a socialist state

hypocrite

You should come up here and try it. But I don't think you can get in on
welfare and with a criminal record.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.