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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 8:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. But FOX says it's not happening.... Uh, no "Fox" doesn't... |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/11 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/9/2011 8:40 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000. I am just trying to tweak my system.. Once I understand the principal, I will be able to the same way I diagnosed cars.. You will never understand Harry, you obviously should stick to paying others to do your work for you... As I posted, I got quality technical advice and not only didn't it cost me anything, it saved me a couple of bucks. Your local fuel supplier should be able to help you out without charge. I don't have the diagnostic instruments or specialized tools necessary to determine what is wrong with today's large engines, nor do I have the specialized knowledge. I do keep my old technology lawn mower, lawn tractor, chain saw and string trimmer running properly. |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/11 9:12 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! LED Light bulbs.. they pollute the earth so much, the slight savings are mitigated... Insulation is not a "green" thing, we have been using it since cave man days. Same with carpools, gardens etc... I want to see new technology based on "green" investment like Solara.. Anything that cuts back on the use of fossil fuel or cuts back on pollutants can be called "green." Insulation certainly is "green," as are carpools and gardens. |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/9/11 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:40 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000. I am just trying to tweak my system.. Once I understand the principal, I will be able to the same way I diagnosed cars.. You will never understand Harry, you obviously should stick to paying others to do your work for you... As I posted, I got quality technical advice and not only didn't it cost me anything, it saved me a couple of bucks. Your local fuel supplier should be able to help you out without charge. I don't have the diagnostic instruments or specialized tools necessary to determine what is wrong with today's large engines, nor do I have the specialized knowledge. I do keep my old technology lawn mower, lawn tractor, chain saw and string trimmer running properly. That's the difference. I have experience with engines, plumbing, electrical, etc, etc.... I do a lot of work myself. I do the research first so I understand the system, then I go fix it. My middle daughter did all of the fiberglass work on the first boat I ever built, my 17 year old just did the top end, valves, timing chain, piston, rings, surclip, shims (using the micrometer) and rebuilt her own race engine. It has been a one kick motor for almost 30 engine hours since then... I have the tools, I have the internet. I asked here to get pointed in the right direction, you have nothing to add, so go to ****ing hell and keep hiding in your basement with nothing but unclever one liners and your delusions of grandeur... I have met two guys in the last few weeks who have inspired me. Sunday my daughter did a few laps with Doug Henry. I watched him come off the track and pull up to the trailer, lean the bike with the big roll cage, unstrap one leg after another and move them the to wheelchair, pull himself over to it, and roll off the trailer. All the time his kid (who does not ride) was doing bicycle wheelies around the parking lot. Yesterday I was walking by a guy on the track and he called me over. I didn't recognize him but I went over to him. As I drew closer I said Jeeze Mike, you lost weight? He said no, I am dying... He is 49, has a kid ready to go pro, and a wife and a 10 year old daughter. He has maybe 6 mos to two years. He was out there laughing and training his son like nothing was going on at all... Folks like this are why I will never live like you Harry. When I tweak the furnace, my kids and wife will be there and understand too. They can hook up the generator, change the oil in it, wash the air filters. They can change tires, or even a carburator, they can handle the nail gun to fix a roof and know how to use hot tar, they can repair an electric fence and start an excavator and probably dig a bit of a hole.... And if like Mike I don't last a whole lot longer, my wife and kids will be able to run things just fine. How is your wife gonna' do changing the oil on that new generator, or pulling a leaf out of the intake if you are down, sick, or the best possibility, dead? Yeah, didn't think so.... |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:19 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/9/11 9:12 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! LED Light bulbs.. they pollute the earth so much, the slight savings are mitigated... Insulation is not a "green" thing, we have been using it since cave man days. Same with carpools, gardens etc... I want to see new technology based on "green" investment like Solara.. Anything that cuts back on the use of fossil fuel or cuts back on pollutants can be called "green." Insulation certainly is "green," as are carpools and gardens. so then we really don't need to be wasting tax payer money on friends of Obama and their shell companies? |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 8:51 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/9/11 8:44 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 9, 9:40 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yup! That's good advice. Pay to get a certified furnace technician in. It just seems crazy to put your family in jeopardy by messing around with something you know little about. When I lived in Connecticut, home heating oil delivered typically by independent contractors was the fuel of choice, whether the heating system was forced hot air or liquid-heated radiators. In either case, if adjustments were needed, the fuel contractor sent someone around to "tune up" the system, and at no additional cost to the homeowner. I imagine that hasn't changed, since the suppliers of the fuel want happy customers, especially in today's market of very high fuel costs. I don't understand the arrogance of "do it yourselfers" who think they have or can easily get the expertise needed to handle tasks that require specific expertise they might not have or can readily get, especially when help is available at little or no cost. Better sit down for this Harry old boy. I substantially agree with you on the topic of heating system maintenance. However, your comment about "do it yourselfers" reveals that you don't understand the concept of "do it yourself" and/or some of the reasons we do it. Your problem is that you can't figure things out so you hire someone to do it for you. Actually, for you, that's the smart thing to do. For others who have the curiosity, desire, and confidence to try new things, "do it yourself" can be quite rewarding. You have to understand your limits though. Arrogance is thinking everyone should strive to be like you. Toodles Mr. Pufferfish -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! Lowes had 40W LED bulbs on sale last week for $10 They seem to have the brightness of 60W I bought 20 of them. What are stand by power strips? -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In aweb.com, says... On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I answered. Yes you did. I was looking for Plume to answer. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/9/2011 8:40 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000. I am just trying to tweak my system.. Once I understand the principal, I will be able to the same way I diagnosed cars.. You will never understand Harry, you obviously should stick to paying others to do your work for you... There aren't a lot of magic tweeks. The one tweek I didn't mention before is change the filter and adjust the flame. You might want to hire a HVAC guy to do that. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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