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Alan July 14th 03 11:05 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas


Harry Krause July 14th 03 11:33 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Alan wrote:
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas


If no more than 4000 pounds, you'll be fine, even going uphills. If
closer to your truck's tow limit, you'll struggle. Make sure you have an
oil and transmission cooloer on the Explorer.

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Gary July 15th 03 12:45 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even consider a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas




Bruce July 15th 03 01:00 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even consider a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






Harry Krause July 15th 03 01:02 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Bruce wrote:

May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even consider a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.

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email sent to will *never* get to me.


Elliott Stage July 15th 03 01:08 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
I pull my Four Winns with a Chevy Astro Van. V6 4.3L.
The boat is max 4000# with trailer and I find it marginal
as a tow vehicle. Went through a transmission at 4000 mi.

I am going back to a small V8 probably the new 4 Runner V8.
There is not enough torque in the V6s unless you like 30 mph
hill climbs and 1st gear in mountain roads when there is a small
steep part (about like a launch ramp) and speed is low,
15 to 20 mph.

I could not recommend a V6 for towing that weight. It is a great
engine format when the vehicle is not towing though.

Elliott

Alan wrote:

Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas



noah July 15th 03 01:18 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:05:28 GMT, Alan
wrote:

Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas


The 4.0L V6 is a tough engine. My Aerostar has a tow rating over 6000
lbs. (My camper's 2800 and my boat is 2700). With a proper tow
package and rating, you'll be OK.

Don't expect as much power as the 5.0L, but you'll get better mileage.
noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats

Larry July 15th 03 01:36 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Towing that far I would stick with the V8. Just because the rating is
5400 doesn't mean it will be fun, especially on the hills. Good rule of
thumb is 80% of the two rating, which brings it down to around 4300 pounds.

Towed a Coleman camper with a Dodge van and the 318 across country...the
minimum I would ever use for towing would be a V8.

Larry

Harry Krause wrote:

Alan wrote:


Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas




If no more than 4000 pounds, you'll be fine, even going uphills. If
closer to your truck's tow limit, you'll struggle. Make sure you have an
oil and transmission cooloer on the Explorer.






Bruce July 15th 03 03:17 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bruce wrote:

May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even consider

a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that

most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.

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email sent to will *never* get to me.




Trainfan1 July 15th 03 03:27 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?


Because you have the American Rambler based I-6.

Rob
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Joe July 15th 03 03:28 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?


Consider yourself a lucky man.



del cecchi July 15th 03 03:35 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

I tow a Lund 1775 ProVee with 115 with the 4L Explorer. Not long
distances but it seems to work fine. Probably about 3000 lb with the
trailer and miscellaneous.

del




Calif Bill July 15th 03 05:22 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bruce wrote:

May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even

consider
a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat

400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to

get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that

most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough.

The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the

smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.

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With that kind of luck and the jeep tranny, buy lottery tickets.
Bill



Calif Bill July 15th 03 05:59 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
It is not just the engine, it is the drive train. The V8's have stronger
ones. Used to tow my 4400# rig with a '96 S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4. The motor
did the job except in the high mountains. 4000'+. Just lacked the cubes.
But broke a rear differential, and lost the differential crush bearing a
year before.
Bill

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even consider a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






Rich Stern July 15th 03 06:14 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?


Yup.

The 4.0 is a good motor for towing. I have a 2001 Sport Trac with the 4.0L
SOHC with the 4.10 gearing. I tow a bass boat (2000lbs) and occassionally, a
22' pontoon boat (about 3300lbs).

Honestly, if I were towing 4000 lbs. on a regular round trip, I'd want a
Supercrew or an Expedition with at least the 4.6, if not the 5.4. If an
Explorer is your vehicle of choice, see if you can find one with the 4.6 V8.
They are definitely around.

If you do wind up with the V6, there are several performance modifications that
can net 20 to 25 additional hp if you are willing to run premium fuel. Cost is
around $1000.

I evaluated the 2002 Explorer about eighteen months ago. Great riding vehicle.
Huge upgrade from the handling and ride quality of your current Mountaineer.


-- Rich Stern
www.nitroowners.com - The Nitro and Tracker Owners Web Site
www.mypontoon.com - The Pontoon Boat Web Site
www.fishingreportdatabase.com - The Fishing Report Database
www.mysporttrac.com - The Sport Trac Web Site


gatt July 16th 03 12:23 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"Alan" wrote in message

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?


Depends on whether you're hauling a cruiser or a canoe.

A friend of mine towed his 2,800lb 16.5' runabout really easily with a 2000
Exploder 4L on Sunday. The trick is to make sure it's 4WD in case the ramp
is slippery, 'cause we got rid of my wife's 4.3L Chevy PU because it was
2WD, slipped a lot at the ramp, and between that and the manual transmission
pulling out was somewhere between a pain in the ass and scary.

A transmission cooler is a good bet too.

-c



gatt July 16th 03 12:32 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.


Beg pardon.

I have one of the first '97 TJ Wranglers built. It's a 4-banger with
140,000 miles on it, it's been tipped over, driven through door-deep mud,
smashed up against rocks and everything, been used as both a commuter and a
hardcore offroader, and it has never been into a repair shop outside of the
old 30,000 mile warrantee. It ain't for sale.

Everybody told me to avoid Jeeps because they suck, but mine has not failed
me at all except once when the oil pressure sending unit broke off. $30
fix. I broke the front U-joint once bouncing across a boulder and tore out
the rear brake line climbing a dry waterfall. Replaced the radiator after
realizing I hadn't flushed it in over 120,000 miles. So in 140,000 miles
I've put about $300 into it in non-routine maintenance and repair.

I love my jeep and it's by far the most reliable and satisfactory vehicle
I've ever owned. The only vehicle I would possibly consider trading it in
for is the new Rubicon uber-jeep.

-gatt




gatt July 16th 03 12:35 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"noah" wrote in message

Don't expect as much power as the 5.0L, but you'll get better mileage.
noah


I tow with a Ford Econoline van w/ the 5.0L. Does the job and stays cool
even with the AC on, but it sucks going up hills. Maybe it's just the
gearing?

-c



noah July 16th 03 02:06 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:35:02 GMT, "gatt" wrote:


"noah" wrote in message

Don't expect as much power as the 5.0L, but you'll get better mileage.
noah


I tow with a Ford Econoline van w/ the 5.0L. Does the job and stays cool
even with the AC on, but it sucks going up hills. Maybe it's just the
gearing?

-c


....gotta' remember that the 5.0L is still "just" a 302c.i. It's a
good engine, but it's not a "big block". The gearing will make a
difference, but it's not a big horsepower engine. If it does the job
for you, be happy. :o)
noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats

Michael Seeley July 16th 03 02:11 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
WOW I had my Chrysler experience in '89, yours must be a re-badged ford, or
you haven't given up that mid '70's habit.
"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bruce wrote:

May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even

consider
a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat

400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to

get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that

most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough.

The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the

smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.

--
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email sent to will *never* get to me.







Michael Seeley July 16th 03 02:16 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
I Agree. I tow a '95 Celebrity 210 with a '95 Explorer (4.0, 155k miles)
Total weight with trailer was 4572 (had it weighed) you'd apreciate the V-8,
but it has never needed any work and still doesn't have any oil burn or
tranny issues
"Rich Stern" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?


Yup.

The 4.0 is a good motor for towing. I have a 2001 Sport Trac with the

4.0L
SOHC with the 4.10 gearing. I tow a bass boat (2000lbs) and

occassionally, a
22' pontoon boat (about 3300lbs).

Honestly, if I were towing 4000 lbs. on a regular round trip, I'd want a
Supercrew or an Expedition with at least the 4.6, if not the 5.4. If an
Explorer is your vehicle of choice, see if you can find one with the 4.6

V8.
They are definitely around.

If you do wind up with the V6, there are several performance modifications

that
can net 20 to 25 additional hp if you are willing to run premium fuel.

Cost is
around $1000.

I evaluated the 2002 Explorer about eighteen months ago. Great riding

vehicle.
Huge upgrade from the handling and ride quality of your current

Mountaineer.


-- Rich Stern
www.nitroowners.com - The Nitro and Tracker Owners Web Site
www.mypontoon.com - The Pontoon Boat Web Site
www.fishingreportdatabase.com - The Fishing Report Database
www.mysporttrac.com - The Sport Trac Web Site





Jim July 16th 03 07:26 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
Alan,

I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but have you
considered finding a place by that lake to store your boat?
Not to talk you out of buying that new truck you want... but
regardless of your decision to tow that distance on a regular
basis, I would think it would be much easier on you too! If
that lake is a popular recreation type area, I bet there are places
around there where folks probably already do that with boats and
RV's. My brother did this a few years back at the coast in SC.
Rather than tow his RV, he made arrangements with someone there
to leave it on their property when he left. Whenever he went
back, he only needed to hook up and tow a few miles to the
campground. If you feel comfortable with that area that no one
will help themselves to parts while you're gone, or can remove
any valuable equipment and take it with you when you leave, it
might be something to seriously consider. As far as a secured
storage area is concerned, that may or may not work as you may
not have access when you want it. Food for thought anyway...

-Jim


Alan wrote:
snipped I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)



Alan July 16th 03 01:32 PM

Tow vehicls - THANKS FOR THE ADVISE
 
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:05:28 GMT, Alan
wrote:

Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

snip

ALCON,

Thanks for all the helpful responses; I appreciate your taking the
time. I've been reading up on this and have decided to find a V8. I
believe the 4.0L V6 has the guts to do the job but I've become
accostomed to the extra power and the mpg difference is minor.

I'll stick with the Ford. When the new GM Trailblazer/Envoy came out
I got really excited about them but on closer examination I lost
interest. They seem to be getting panned in much of the literature.
I've had two experiences with Chrysler Corp, in the 1970's, both of
them proved painful. True, that was a long time ago but my opinion
has never changed - Chrysler leads the industry in innovation but
trails the others in QA.

I went to the local Ford dealer yeterday. Of the 10 explorers on the
lot only one had the V8 but the salesman said thee are plenty of them
around and he can quickly find me one on a dealer trade. Perhaps I'll
just wait until October and look for a clean 02 train-in or off-lease.

Jim's suggestion to store the boat at the lake is a good one, but I
already have a place on the lake with a dock and a lift. The problem
is that I want to use the boat at home too and couldnt stand the
seperation anxiety.

Alan Hannas

barrythedude July 16th 03 10:23 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
I have towed a 2400lb trailer AND a 1800 boat and trailer behind my 95
exploer with no probs, same as my 1989 wagoneer with the 4.0 ltr
straight 6. It is more of a chore, but you dont need a v8

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:26:15 GMT, Jim
wrote:

Alan,

I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but have you
considered finding a place by that lake to store your boat?
Not to talk you out of buying that new truck you want... but
regardless of your decision to tow that distance on a regular
basis, I would think it would be much easier on you too! If
that lake is a popular recreation type area, I bet there are places
around there where folks probably already do that with boats and
RV's. My brother did this a few years back at the coast in SC.
Rather than tow his RV, he made arrangements with someone there
to leave it on their property when he left. Whenever he went
back, he only needed to hook up and tow a few miles to the
campground. If you feel comfortable with that area that no one
will help themselves to parts while you're gone, or can remove
any valuable equipment and take it with you when you leave, it
might be something to seriously consider. As far as a secured
storage area is concerned, that may or may not work as you may
not have access when you want it. Food for thought anyway...

-Jim


Alan wrote:
snipped I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)




Ronald A. Widman July 20th 03 03:25 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
I'd say you should go with the V8. In any case make sure it has the factory
tow package. Also, limited slip rear for recovery at the ramps.

Ron

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat 400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough. The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas




basskisser August 1st 03 05:37 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
"Joe" wrote in message ...
"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?


Consider yourself a lucky man.


I'm on my second Jeep Cherokee, with 199,000 on it. My first had
195,000, and I wished I'd have kept it. I know many, many people with
the 4.0 liter 6 cyl. that have close to 200,000 miles and no troubles.
The one with 199,000 needed a radiator at 187,000.

basskisser August 1st 03 05:38 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ...
"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bruce wrote:

May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even

consider
a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching 150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my boat

400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons. A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time to

get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is that

most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough.

The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the

smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.




With that kind of luck and the jeep tranny, buy lottery tickets.
Bill


You don't know **** about Jeeps.

Calif Bill August 1st 03 06:13 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

...
"Bruce" wrote in message
. com...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bruce wrote:

May want to take a look at a V8 Grand Cherokee.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"Gary" wrote in message

news:3f134066@shknews01...
Man you have a 400 mile tow with a 4000lb boat? ... don't even

consider
a
V6 - stay with a V8 that has a tow package.
Gary

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Does anyone out there tow with a 4.0L Ford? I'd appreciate

your
thoughts on this engine?

My 1997 Merc. Mountaineer (Ford Explorer twin) is approaching

150K
miles and it's starting to cost me money. Nothing big but it's

an
excuse to consider replacing the truck. I frequently tow my

boat
400
miles to a lake in VA, often coming home on Sunday afternoons.

A
breakdown along I81 would be a real mess so It's probably time

to
get
something newer. The truck has a 5.0L V8 and has done a great

job
towing my rig (about 4000# incl. trailer)

I'm thinking of an Explorer (2002 or newer). The problem is

that
most
come with the V6, Finding one with the 4.6L V8 is pretty tough.

The
Explorer with a V6 and 3.73 gears is rated at 5400# so it

should do
the job, but I'm accustomed to the V8 and a bit leery of the

smaller
engine.

What say you? Do you think the 4.0L will pull the boat OK?

Thanks

Alan Hannas






No offense, but the Chrysler Jeep products are at the bottom of the
quality heap.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.




With that kind of luck and the jeep tranny, buy lottery tickets.
Bill


You don't know **** about Jeeps.


I know their auto tranny's are ****. They burn oil under normal operating
conditions, and most spend an inordinate time in the shop for running gear
and overheat problems. Typical Mopar. To small of radiator and brakes.
Bill



Joe August 1st 03 06:48 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?


Consider yourself a lucky man.


I'm on my second Jeep Cherokee, with 199,000 on it. My first had
195,000, and I wished I'd have kept it. I know many, many people with
the 4.0 liter 6 cyl. that have close to 200,000 miles and no troubles.
The one with 199,000 needed a radiator at 187,000.


Let me guess, none of them have ever burned any oil.

Right?



Joe August 12th 03 07:03 AM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?


Consider yourself a lucky man.


I'm on my second Jeep Cherokee, with 199,000 on it. My first had
195,000, and I wished I'd have kept it. I know many, many people with
the 4.0 liter 6 cyl. that have close to 200,000 miles and no troubles.
The one with 199,000 needed a radiator at 187,000.


More proof that you are a lying sack of ****
A year ago you had 240,000 miles on it.

http://tinyurl.com/jqg9




basskisser August 14th 03 05:45 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 
"Joe" wrote in message ...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

Consider yourself a lucky man.


I'm on my second Jeep Cherokee, with 199,000 on it. My first had
195,000, and I wished I'd have kept it. I know many, many people with
the 4.0 liter 6 cyl. that have close to 200,000 miles and no troubles.
The one with 199,000 needed a radiator at 187,000.


More proof that you are a lying sack of ****
A year ago you had 240,000 miles on it.

http://tinyurl.com/jqg9


JoeTechnician, I'm quite flattered that you are so look up to me so
much that you know every aspect of my life, but alas, you don't know
****. The Grand had, in all actuallity, 247,000 miles on it. It WAS
the wife's. She was parked in Buckhead, and got side swiped.
Now, I can tell you are so obsessed with me, that you must know the
details, JoeTechnician, so here they a
she now drives a 2001 Pontiac Montana with a V-6. It is Beige. It has
APPROXIMATELY 60k miles on it. Like most GM products, it's a piece of
****. The fit and finish are typical GM. I do, however like all the
toys that came on it.

I'm kinda worried that pretty soon, you're going to start stalking me,
and I'll see a strange car outside of my house. Just like those
stalkers that go after celebrities. Hey, your not gay now, are you,
JoeTechnician? Because, although I have nothing against you being gay,
I don't go that way!

Joe August 14th 03 06:17 PM

Tow vehicle opinions - Ford 4.0L V6
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
Then howcome i have 125000 miles on my 99 WJ Grand Cherokee with

the
straight 6, and often tow a 6500lb boat with not one problem yet?

Consider yourself a lucky man.

I'm on my second Jeep Cherokee, with 199,000 on it. My first had
195,000, and I wished I'd have kept it. I know many, many people with
the 4.0 liter 6 cyl. that have close to 200,000 miles and no troubles.
The one with 199,000 needed a radiator at 187,000.


More proof that you are a lying sack of ****
A year ago you had 240,000 miles on it.

http://tinyurl.com/jqg9


JoeTechnician, I'm quite flattered that you are so look up to me so
much that you know every aspect of my life, but alas, you don't know
****. The Grand had, in all actuallity, 247,000 miles on it. It WAS
the wife's. She was parked in Buckhead, and got side swiped.
Now, I can tell you are so obsessed with me, that you must know the
details, JoeTechnician, so here they a
she now drives a 2001 Pontiac Montana with a V-6. It is Beige. It has
APPROXIMATELY 60k miles on it. Like most GM products, it's a piece of
****. The fit and finish are typical GM. I do, however like all the
toys that came on it.


Nice try, lying sack of ****.

In the same thread you said "I've got more faith in that Jeep than my wife's
almost new Volvo"

You are pathetic.





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