I have been using my ultralight backpacking equipment for kayaking and
I would like a little more comfort for kayaking especially in the
sleeping pad department.

The typical backpacking pads/air mattresses are too small in width and
are usually designed for low temps. After a lot of searching, the only
thing I found is the Sevylor Camping air mattress - 29" x 72" @ 2lbs.

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks

Jack's Plastic Welding Paco Pads are well thought of by many.

For "heavier" camping, we use a ~4" thick queen size air bed which
just fits in the 3 person tent.

On 15 Jun 2004 20:02:28 -0700, (Alex Horvath)
wrote:

I have been using my ultralight backpacking equipment for kayaking and
I would like a little more comfort for kayaking especially in the
sleeping pad department.

The typical backpacking pads/air mattresses are too small in width and
are usually designed for low temps. After a lot of searching, the only
thing I found is the Sevylor Camping air mattress - 29" x 72" @ 2lbs.

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks

If you want comfy, you can't beat the Thermarest Luxury series. There's no
way a pool toy can be anywhere near as comfortable as a 2" thick dense-foam
filled mattress.

"Alex Horvath" wrote in message
om...
I have been using my ultralight backpacking equipment for kayaking and
I would like a little more comfort for kayaking especially in the
sleeping pad department.

The typical backpacking pads/air mattresses are too small in width and
are usually designed for low temps. After a lot of searching, the only
thing I found is the Sevylor Camping air mattress - 29" x 72" @ 2lbs.

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks

Just picked up a Thermarest 30x77 called the Megarest. It's nice, and it's
comfy.

Dennis

For cubscout camping trips, we just go to the dollar store and get the
pool air beds. I've used the same one 5 times and hasn't let me down.


--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
jemwatercraft.com

A cheap air mattress might be fine for simple overnights with the scouts,
but when on week long trips in the boundary waters, or more importantly, in
cold weather, they are simply not acceptable. Most Boy Scout troops
recommend that the boys use closed cell foam pads since they are almost
indestructible.

"Matt Langenfeld" wrote in message
ink.net...
For cubscout camping trips, we just go to the dollar store and get the
pool air beds. I've used the same one 5 times and hasn't let me down.


--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
jemwatercraft.com

Not to be argumentative, but Backpacking magazine says air mattresses
are more comfortable (and I agree) and they are now recommending the
Big Agnes over Thermarest. I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress. The only advantage of having a lot of foam inside is
the insulating quality but of course that is not an issue for warm
weather kayaking/rafting.

The 2.5" thick, 72" long Big Agnes rolls up into a smaller package
than the smallest Thermarest I have, which is 20"x47"x1" and not very
comfy. The Big Agnes pads are no wider than 20" however so I would
still consider it a backpacking pad (and they make sleeping pads which
have pockets for the pad).

"Ken" wrote in message ...
A cheap air mattress might be fine for simple overnights with the scouts,
but when on week long trips in the boundary waters, or more importantly, in
cold weather, they are simply not acceptable. Most Boy Scout troops
recommend that the boys use closed cell foam pads since they are almost
indestructible.

"Matt Langenfeld" wrote in message
ink.net...
For cubscout camping trips, we just go to the dollar store and get the
pool air beds. I've used the same one 5 times and hasn't let me down.


--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
jemwatercraft.com

On 19-Jun-2004, (Alex Horvath) wrote:

I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress

30 Seconds?

From the Backpacker review:
http://www.backpacker.com/gear/artic...3,4006,00.html

"Since the Air Core is not self-inflating, it takes some effort
to blow up--typically 4 minutes of puffing"

That will make a lot of folks dizzy.

I don't intend to paddle with an air pump either - that would negate
the weight and volume advantage.

Mike

I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress


30 Seconds?

I typically spend 0 seconds. I throw it out and it self inflates after
a few minutes. You're not supposed to blow it up rock hard.

--Chris

I must have big lungs...

Seriously if you can hike 10 miles per day, gaining 5000 feet in
altitude (typical here in CA) surely you can blow up an air mattress.
If you can't I suggest you check into a retirement home.

I don't really even need the air mattress except for the first nite
out which is usually my only somewhat sleepless nite due to large
difference in comfort level. After the fist nite I could sleep on a
rock.



"Michael Daly" wrote in message ...
On 19-Jun-2004, (Alex Horvath) wrote:

I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress

30 Seconds?

From the Backpacker review:
http://www.backpacker.com/gear/artic...3,4006,00.html

"Since the Air Core is not self-inflating, it takes some effort
to blow up--typically 4 minutes of puffing"

That will make a lot of folks dizzy.

I don't intend to paddle with an air pump either - that would negate
the weight and volume advantage.

Mike