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Alex Horvath June 16th 04 04:02 AM

Air mattresses
 
I have been using my ultralight backpacking equipment for kayaking and
I would like a little more comfort for kayaking especially in the
sleeping pad department.

The typical backpacking pads/air mattresses are too small in width and
are usually designed for low temps. After a lot of searching, the only
thing I found is the Sevylor Camping air mattress - 29" x 72" @ 2lbs.

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks

Theodore F. Marz June 16th 04 06:31 AM

Air mattresses
 
Jack's Plastic Welding Paco Pads are well thought of by many.

For "heavier" camping, we use a ~4" thick queen size air bed which
just fits in the 3 person tent.

On 15 Jun 2004 20:02:28 -0700, (Alex Horvath)
wrote:

I have been using my ultralight backpacking equipment for kayaking and
I would like a little more comfort for kayaking especially in the
sleeping pad department.

The typical backpacking pads/air mattresses are too small in width and
are usually designed for low temps. After a lot of searching, the only
thing I found is the Sevylor Camping air mattress - 29" x 72" @ 2lbs.

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks



Jon C June 16th 04 06:35 AM

Air mattresses
 
If you want comfy, you can't beat the Thermarest Luxury series. There's no
way a pool toy can be anywhere near as comfortable as a 2" thick dense-foam
filled mattress.

"Alex Horvath" wrote in message
om...
I have been using my ultralight backpacking equipment for kayaking and
I would like a little more comfort for kayaking especially in the
sleeping pad department.

The typical backpacking pads/air mattresses are too small in width and
are usually designed for low temps. After a lot of searching, the only
thing I found is the Sevylor Camping air mattress - 29" x 72" @ 2lbs.

Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks




Paddlec1 June 16th 04 02:04 PM

Air mattresses
 
Can anyone recommend some other products?

I have looked at all of the Thermarest and Big Agnes products.

Thanks


Just picked up a Thermarest 30x77 called the Megarest. It's nice, and it's
comfy.

Dennis

Matt Langenfeld June 18th 04 01:46 AM

Air mattresses
 
For cubscout camping trips, we just go to the dollar store and get the
pool air beds. I've used the same one 5 times and hasn't let me down.


--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
jemwatercraft.com


Ken June 18th 04 03:20 PM

Air mattresses
 
A cheap air mattress might be fine for simple overnights with the scouts,
but when on week long trips in the boundary waters, or more importantly, in
cold weather, they are simply not acceptable. Most Boy Scout troops
recommend that the boys use closed cell foam pads since they are almost
indestructible.

"Matt Langenfeld" wrote in message
ink.net...
For cubscout camping trips, we just go to the dollar store and get the
pool air beds. I've used the same one 5 times and hasn't let me down.


--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
jemwatercraft.com




Alex Horvath June 20th 04 04:09 AM

Air mattresses
 
Not to be argumentative, but Backpacking magazine says air mattresses
are more comfortable (and I agree) and they are now recommending the
Big Agnes over Thermarest. I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress. The only advantage of having a lot of foam inside is
the insulating quality but of course that is not an issue for warm
weather kayaking/rafting.

The 2.5" thick, 72" long Big Agnes rolls up into a smaller package
than the smallest Thermarest I have, which is 20"x47"x1" and not very
comfy. The Big Agnes pads are no wider than 20" however so I would
still consider it a backpacking pad (and they make sleeping pads which
have pockets for the pad).

"Ken" wrote in message ...
A cheap air mattress might be fine for simple overnights with the scouts,
but when on week long trips in the boundary waters, or more importantly, in
cold weather, they are simply not acceptable. Most Boy Scout troops
recommend that the boys use closed cell foam pads since they are almost
indestructible.

"Matt Langenfeld" wrote in message
ink.net...
For cubscout camping trips, we just go to the dollar store and get the
pool air beds. I've used the same one 5 times and hasn't let me down.


--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
jemwatercraft.com


Michael Daly June 21st 04 02:14 AM

Air mattresses
 
On 19-Jun-2004, (Alex Horvath) wrote:

I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress


30 Seconds?

From the Backpacker review:
http://www.backpacker.com/gear/artic...3,4006,00.html

"Since the Air Core is not self-inflating, it takes some effort
to blow up--typically 4 minutes of puffing"

That will make a lot of folks dizzy.

I don't intend to paddle with an air pump either - that would negate
the weight and volume advantage.

Mike

Jon C June 21st 04 01:28 PM

Air mattresses
 

"Alex Horvath" wrote in message
m...
Not to be argumentative, but Backpacking magazine says air mattresses
are more comfortable (and I agree) and they are now recommending the
Big Agnes over Thermarest. I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress. The only advantage of having a lot of foam inside is
the insulating quality but of course that is not an issue for warm
weather kayaking/rafting.


It's not as much insulation as comfort.



Chris Webster June 21st 04 03:14 PM

Air mattresses
 

I have never understood why Thermarest
would believe that people would not want to take 30 seconds to blow up
a air mattress



30 Seconds?


I typically spend 0 seconds. I throw it out and it self inflates after
a few minutes. You're not supposed to blow it up rock hard.

--Chris


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