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Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On 10/28/11 5:02 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 28/10/2011 2:55 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 10/28/11 4:51 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 27/10/2011 1:01 PM, X ` Man wrote: ...he is dumber than Bachmann. Not really Yeah, really...he is. Smarter than lamer 0bama. Oh, yeah...to a mindless fool like you, maybe. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:50:05 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:
Oil Comapnies have been selling off and closing Refineries domestically, THAT WERE HUGELY PROFITABLE, and blaming it on Environmentalist and Government. The real culprit is the Oil Comapnies cutting refining to choke supply and maintain and increase the price of Fuels. ==== That's not really true. It has become uneconomical to build and operate refineries in the US for a variety of reasons. Are you willing to pay more for your gasoline to have it refined here? Are you willing to have a refinery in your backyard? No one else is too eager to have one either. They are lousy neighbors even when they meet all of the environmental regs. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
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Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On 10/28/11 7:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:50:05 -0400, Lil wrote: Oil Comapnies have been selling off and closing Refineries domestically, THAT WERE HUGELY PROFITABLE, and blaming it on Environmentalist and Government. The real culprit is the Oil Comapnies cutting refining to choke supply and maintain and increase the price of Fuels. ==== That's not really true. It has become uneconomical to build and operate refineries in the US for a variety of reasons. Are you willing to pay more for your gasoline to have it refined here? Are you willing to have a refinery in your backyard? No one else is too eager to have one either. They are lousy neighbors even when they meet all of the environmental regs. That's our W'hine...always apologizing for corporate crooks. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On 10/28/2011 7:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:50:05 -0400, Lil wrote: Oil Comapnies have been selling off and closing Refineries domestically, THAT WERE HUGELY PROFITABLE, and blaming it on Environmentalist and Government. The real culprit is the Oil Comapnies cutting refining to choke supply and maintain and increase the price of Fuels. ==== That's not really true. It has become uneconomical to build and operate refineries in the US for a variety of reasons. Are you willing to pay more for your gasoline to have it refined here? Are you willing to have a refinery in your backyard? No one else is too eager to have one either. They are lousy neighbors even when they meet all of the environmental regs. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:
Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:
On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On 10/30/11 12:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil wrote: On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. Translation: If we change anything in this country in economics, manufacturing, whatever, rich people in the United States *might* have a tad less income to hoard and not invest in this country. Maybe. Therefore, we should leave everything alone, even though those with middle class or lower incomes are going right down the tubes. The reality is that goods are not necessarily any less expensive for consumers when they manufactured overseas in countries that pay close to slave labor wages. The difference is that instead of making, say, a $15 net profit on an item made in the USA that wholesales for $100, the multinational corporation takes that manufacturing to China, where its net profit, including shipping, on that $100 at wholesale item is now $55. It still wholesales in the USA for the same price and retails for the same price, too. There's no difference in the price the consumer pays, just in the percentage of profit the manufacturer pockets. It's just greed that takes manufacturing overseas. It's still profitable to manufacture here, it's just not *as* profitable. We're heading for a restructuring of society in this country. We're either going to end up with a peaceful transition that produces equity for the middle and lower income groups or there will be blood in the streets. And you know what? Sooner rather than later the majority of police and other enforcers of civil behavior will realize *they* are getting ****ed by the rich, too. |
Rick Perry, the great hope of the GOP, realizes...
On 10/30/2011 8:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/30/11 12:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:10:21 -0400, Lil wrote: On 10/28/2011 9:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:06:05 -0400, Lil wrote:e. Did you not read of the House Investigations. I don't remember but think it was 2008. =========== You can buy gasoline refined overseas by the tanker load. If you don't buy it, someone else will. If you think gasoline is expensive here, try driving around in Europe for a while. My concerns are here in the USA. Wall Street/Washington Globalist want us to share all the problems of everywhere else for their wealth. They haven't made the Bushmen, of the Sub Sahara rich but they have made us poor. Share the wealth with the rest of the world/share the poverty of the rest of the world. World Peace through world trade. it is all bs. the truth is raid Americans and their Republic for Globalist Elites pockets. ========= Be careful what you ask for. A lot of things that we now buy for half way reasonable prices would double or triple in price if made in the US (at current wage rates). Some things might become totally unavailable because the manufacturing expertise for certain products does not exist here. A lot of the best engineering talent in the US has been siphoned of by the military/aerospace industries. Translation: If we change anything in this country in economics, manufacturing, whatever, rich people in the United States *might* have a tad less income to hoard and not invest in this country. Maybe. Therefore, we should leave everything alone, even though those with middle class or lower incomes are going right down the tubes. The reality is that goods are not necessarily any less expensive for consumers when they manufactured overseas in countries that pay close to slave labor wages. The difference is that instead of making, say, a $15 net profit on an item made in the USA that wholesales for $100, the multinational corporation takes that manufacturing to China, where its net profit, including shipping, on that $100 at wholesale item is now $55. It still wholesales in the USA for the same price and retails for the same price, too. There's no difference in the price the consumer pays, just in the percentage of profit the manufacturer pockets. It's just greed that takes manufacturing overseas. It's still profitable to manufacture here, it's just not *as* profitable. We're heading for a restructuring of society in this country. We're either going to end up with a peaceful transition that produces equity for the middle and lower income groups or there will be blood in the streets. And you know what? Sooner rather than later the majority of police and other enforcers of civil behavior will realize *they* are getting ****ed by the rich, too. Got any hard data to support your bull**** hypothetical scenario? |
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