On Oct 29, 1:02*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger





wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North *wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.
Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. *There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.
One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.
Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:05:45 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:02*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger






Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.
One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.
Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.


Broker? I do a lot of Ebay and I send stuff to Canada fairly often. My
broker is the US Postal Service. You fill out the Click n ship customs
declaration and off it goes. I never had anyone complain that they had
any duties to pay. If something will fit in a priority flat rate box
it is really pretty cheap to ship too., Even regular mail isn't that
bad. What is expensive is shipping to South America (the last one was
a video camera to Colombia) . It is cheaper shipping to China.

Quite a number of years a go, my sister was dating a guy from Costa
Rica, he wanted to take his BMW back home when he returned. The import
duty into Costa Rica for autos was 100% of the autos value. This was 30
years ago and it may have changed since them.

If you can steal the cars in the US and put them on freighters then you
can make a good amount of money importing them and only charge 30 to 50%
over assessed value.

On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 29, 1:02 am, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger





wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.
Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.

Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. 18% duty plus customs
charges on all sorts of stuff.

One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.

Happen, I know. Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family"
business to get the parts.

Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.

More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

On Oct 30, 2:34*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote:





On Oct 29, 1:02 am, *wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger

*wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North * *wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.
Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. *There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.

Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. *18% duty plus customs
charges on all sorts of stuff.

One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.

Happen, I know. *Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family"
business to get the parts.

Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.

More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping
address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns.
This works fine if you are close to the border. Closest to here is
Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions.

On 30/10/2011 12:56 PM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, wrote:
On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote:





On Oct 29, 1:02 am, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger

wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.
Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.

Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. 18% duty plus customs
charges on all sorts of stuff.

One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.

Happen, I know. Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family"
business to get the parts.

Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.

More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping
address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns.
This works fine if you are close to the border. Closest to here is
Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions.

I have it shipped to the in-laws in Portland and we in our family take
turns visiting and load up to the max allowed on return. If we get too
much, put the foreign stuff in you allotment, and NA stuff outside of
the allotment and only GST is payable. In Alberta we don't have the
liberal ST part. Alberta has less tax, less rats and hasn't never voted
NDP for a governemnt, and hasn't elected a Liberal government since 1917.

Has the liberals all ****ed when you bring up 1917. Getting pretty
close to a 100 year lockout of liberal scum in Alberta.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

On Oct 30, 4:41*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/10/2011 12:56 PM, North Star wrote:





On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, *wrote:
On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:02 am, * *wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger

* *wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North * * *wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.
Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. *There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.

Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. *18% duty plus customs
charges on all sorts of stuff.

One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.

Happen, I know. *Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family"
business to get the parts.

Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.

More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping
address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns.
This works fine if you are close to the border. *Closest to here is
Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions.

I have it shipped to the in-laws in Portland and we in our family take
turns visiting and load up to the max allowed on return. *If we get too
much, put the foreign stuff in you allotment, and NA stuff outside of
the allotment and only GST is payable. *In Alberta we don't have the
liberal ST part. *Alberta has less tax, less rats and hasn't never voted
NDP for a governemnt, and hasn't elected a Liberal government since 1917.

Has the liberals all ****ed when you bring up 1917. *Getting pretty
close to a 100 year lockout of liberal scum in Alberta.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It shows,believe me!

On 10/30/2011 2:56 PM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, wrote:
On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote:





On Oct 29, 1:02 am, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger

wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.
Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage
houses can really tack on the charges.

Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. 18% duty plus customs
charges on all sorts of stuff.

One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing
$100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services
charges.

Happen, I know. Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family"
business to get the parts.

Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the
object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what
you pay down there.

More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping
address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns.
This works fine if you are close to the border. Closest to here is
Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions.

Would it be quicker to go by boat?