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On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote:

The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice?


Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

*what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

*"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

*Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks Don
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On 10/28/2011 10:20 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, wrote:
On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:

The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?


Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks Don


Don,
That starter you want can be found in *any* auto parts store. Probably
even in Canada. Are you socialists up there so helpless or stupid that
you can't go to a store and buy something without help from someone in
the U S of A.
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On 10/28/2011 10:20 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, wrote:
On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:

The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?

Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks Don


Don,
That starter you want can be found in *any* auto parts store. Probably
even in Canada. Are you socialists up there so helpless or stupid that
you can't go to a store and buy something without help from someone in
the U S of A.


Not all of them are stupid, but Don sure is!
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On Oct 28, 9:20*am, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote:









On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote:


The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice?


Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....


*what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.


*"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.


*Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.


What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...


The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.


Here's a pic of one


http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg


The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts


After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something
right.


If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks * Don


Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- This
is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion
bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM
with the 4.3 V-6 Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're
different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders.
Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a
good deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...item1e67fd7b2c

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On 10/28/11 6:56 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:20 am, North wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, wrote:









On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:


The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?


Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....


what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.


"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.


Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.


What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...


The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.


Here's a pic of one


http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg


The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts


After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.


If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks Don


Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- This
is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion
bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM
with the 4.3 V-6 Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're
different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders.
Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a
good deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...item1e67fd7b2c



Good neighbor Tim. :)


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On Oct 28, 5:56*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:20*am, North Star wrote:









On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote:


On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote:


The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice?


Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....


*what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.


*"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.


*Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.


What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...


The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.


Here's a pic of one


http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg


The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts


After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something
right.


If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks * Don


Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- *This
is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion
bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM
with the 4.3 V-6 *Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're
different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders.
Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a
good deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...-Truck-Olds-Ge...


OOOOOOOPS! I take that back!

I thought I'd looked on Canadian ebay, but no, it's US!

BUT, that'll give you an idea what to look for.
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On Oct 28, 6:19*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:56:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:









On Oct 28, 9:20 am, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, Tim wrote:


On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North Star wrote:


The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?


Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....


what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.


"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.


Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.


What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...


The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.


Here's a pic of one


http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg


The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts


After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.


If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.


Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine.
I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details...
and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer.
Thanks Don


Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- *This
is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion
bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM
with the 4.3 V-6 *Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're
different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders.
Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a
good deal.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...-Truck-Olds-Ge...


Tim, per my post: the bolt diameter is a BIG issue in starter
longevity.


Oh, I know, that's why i mentioned them in my post too.
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jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?

Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.

There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.

Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger
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jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.

There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.

Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)


Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.
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jps wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem.
His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor.
He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one
is failing.
Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied
starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This
truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why
the proper part is hard to get. Any advice?
Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day....

what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great
for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9
liter engines.

"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and
already stressed load and that was bad enough.

Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive
gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's
possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the
flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't
installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to
secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is
junk.

What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or
later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that
whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end
brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for
150,000 mi...

The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've
been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't
know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re-
cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be
happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be
pretty hefty.

Here's a pic of one

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg

The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter
mounting bolts

After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something
right.

If I can help any other way, let me know, Don.
There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods.

And shipping UPS ground is cheap.

Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff,
however.

-HB (As Seen On TV!)

Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was
concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.

Duties, tariff - same ****.

-HB
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